Disklok- do they actually work?

[rottie102]

terzo said:

rottie102 said:

I'm sure all those devices are great etc.

I would never ever have one for one reason though - you look like such a plonker putting it on and taking it off! Imagine taking some nice chick for a first date in your car and fettling with that thing. No matter how nice the car is - with one of those fitted I always think: must be driven by OAP with foglights on.
There's a Nissan 370Z convertible parked in Chiswick in West London everyday. Nice, cool car but it's got a massive yellow thingy on the steering wheel, plus during last World Cup the owner covered it in those £1 England flags. That did it for me.

But that's just me...

Heaven forfend should you ever have to change a wheel or push-start a car, I mean what would people think of you, the embarrassment of it all!

Nope, no problems here. I'm happy to fix my cars on the street and I've done so in the past.

[Westy Pre-Lit]

I bet the nice chick that stood watching was suitably impressed.

[Westy Pre-Lit]

Motorrad said:

We still don't have a credible, first hand report of Disklok failure.

I seem to remember a program that used an ex proffesional thief to remove these security items. Can't remember how well it did though in the test.

R11ysf said:

Westy Pre-Lit said:

I used to have a MK2 RS2000 years ago.

Best thing I found was a solid Hardened steel bar which held the brake pedal down and covered the whole pedal.

It was anchored down to a steel bracket fixed to the bulkhead IIRC and locked in place with a substantial high security padlock. Barring lifting/dragging or cutting the brake pipes the car was gonna stay put. It got very high reviews at the time and was backed up with a secret cut off switch and another anti theft device connected to the battery. Saved the car from 4 attempted thefts.

Don't confuse it with those cheap crappy brake things, unfortunately I can't find the things anywhere now.

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Wednesday 5th January 19:18

Not sure if this applies to cars as much but I was advised against using a front brake pressure clamp over the handlebars to clamp the front brake on as over time this constant force can wear on the piston seals. If you park up for weeks (or months on bikes) then the constant full braking force can cause fluid to seep through or at least wear out the rubber bits prematurely.

Anyway, no idea if it applies to cars but thought I'd mention it.

Good point that which did play on my mind at the time but never had a problem in all the years that I used it. If I find it I will post it up.

[iva cosworth]

Westy Pre-Lit said:

I used to have a MK2 RS2000 years ago.

Best thing I found was a solid Hardened steel bar which held the brake pedal down and covered the whole pedal.

It was anchored down to a steel bracket fixed to the bulkhead IIRC and locked in place with a substantial high security padlock. Barring lifting/dragging or cutting the brake pipes the car was gonna stay put. It got very high reviews at the time and was backed up with a secret cut off switch and another anti theft device connected to the battery. Saved the car from 4 attempted thefts.

If the above is what i think it is ,it was called Pedalok and made by the Disklok people

another highly affective device which was substantially made

BTW i have a Disklok on both my cars ,fitted at all times ,even inside my garage ,and it does
not mark the steering wheel or airbag

[iva cosworth]

Westy Pre-Lit said:

I used to have a MK2 RS2000 years ago.

Best thing I found was a solid Hardened steel bar which held the brake pedal down and covered the whole pedal.

It was anchored down to a steel bracket fixed to the bulkhead IIRC and locked in place with a substantial high security padlock. Barring lifting/dragging or cutting the brake pipes the car was gonna stay put. It got very high reviews at the time and was backed up with a secret cut off switch and another anti theft device connected to the battery. Saved the car from 4 attempted thefts.

If the above is what i think it is ,it was called Pedalok and made by the Disklok people

another highly affective device which was substantially made

BTW i have a Disklok on both my cars ,fitted at all times ,even inside my garage ,and it does
not mark the steering wheel or airbag

[Westy Pre-Lit]

iva cosworth said:

If the above is what i think it is ,it was called Pedalok and made by the Disklok people

another highly affective device which was substantially made

That's the one I was Googling the name slightly wrong.

Good solid bit of kit that.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2307204.htm

[Zed Ed]

Better; dipol or barrier deadlock

Both, gearbox locks

[Cotty]

jon- said:

Get a snap off boss for your steering wheel. Disklocks can be removed, but it's not every day criminals walk around with steering wheels (and a matching boss which are keyed)

I was thinking of getting one when I park my car on the street but you can not use the original wheel and I quite like my Mtec 2
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Performance/Steering...

[Havoc856]

far better off with something like a Bluefin unit.. Increases all important power but also has an IMMOBILISE function that basically removes the mapping, so the engine appears disconnected from the looms to the sensors and won't start. Takes 2mins to load in and lock off, 2mins to remove. Works a treat for me when I park my RS up in a neighbourhood of oiks.

[David87]

I have one, but I only tend to use it if I'm going somewhere I deem to be 'dodgy'. Thankfully a car criminal hasn't yet had the chance to try and remove it, but it does seem pretty sturdy. Even if it isn't that much of an issue for a seasoned robber, it's certainly a deterrent.

[Motorrad]

[quote=Westy Pre-Lit]

I seem to remember a program that used an ex proffesional thief to remove these security items. Can't remember how well it did though in the test.

[quote=Westy Pre-Lit]

Most of them are useless, what I'm contending here is that the disklok actually has some value in holding up even professional thieves.

I've never seen any video of anyone defeating a disklok and as far as I'm aware to do so would require knowledge,tools and more time than your average scumbag wants to spend in the danger zone.



edit cant get the bloody quotes working

Edited by Motorrad on Wednesday 5th January 21:58

[Motorrad]

Havoc856 said:

far better off with something like a Bluefin unit.. Increases all important power but also has an IMMOBILISE function that basically removes the mapping, so the engine appears disconnected from the looms to the sensors and won't start. Takes 2mins to load in and lock off, 2mins to remove. Works a treat for me when I park my RS up in a neighbourhood of oiks.

Isn't a visible deterrent. Good though- REVO have a similar system. When I used to leave my car parked up for prolonged periods I would disable the vehicle with the REVO SPS switch and use the disklok. Short of lifting it I don't think it was going anywhere with anyone other than me.

Edited by Motorrad on Wednesday 5th January 21:56

[5LDC]

I had one on my Z3M and after loosing the disklock key whilst out (60 miles from home) i called a friend to go round my house, pick up the spare off the missus and bring it up to me.
I didnt fancy the wait, so with both feet on the lever part of the lock, i forced it open and snapped the lock in around 20 seconds!! my feet did slip off when the fooking thing broke though causing me to kick the rear view mirror and crack the b**tard windscreen!!
IMO they are a Total waste of time, i was amazed how easy it was to remove.

[Motorrad]

5LDC said:

I had one on my Z3M and after loosing the disklock key whilst out (60 miles from home) i called a friend to go round my house, pick up the spare off the missus and bring it up to me.
I didnt fancy the wait, so with both feet on the lever part of the lock, i forced it open and snapped the lock in around 20 seconds!! my feet did slip off when the fooking thing broke though causing me to kick the rear view mirror and crack the b**tard windscreen!!
IMO they are a Total waste of time, i was amazed how easy it was to remove.

First time I've ever heard of anyone doing that. Wonder how it passes the Thatcham tests then?

We are talking about a Disklok and not some other device aren't we?

This is exactly what I am trying to find out- have I been living in a fool's paradise regarding the efficacity (is that a word) of the disklok or is it as good as the manufacturer/thatcham claim?

edit having a nightmare with the quoting

Edited by Motorrad on Wednesday 5th January 22:01

[5LDC]

Motorrad said:

5LDC said:

I had one on my Z3M and after loosing the disklock key whilst out (60 miles from home) i called a friend to go round my house, pick up the spare off the missus and bring it up to me.
I didnt fancy the wait, so with both feet on the lever part of the lock, i forced it open and snapped the lock in around 20 seconds!! my feet did slip off when the fooking thing broke though causing me to kick the rear view mirror and crack the b**tard windscreen!!
IMO they are a Total waste of time, i was amazed how easy it was to remove.

First time I've ever heard of anyone doing that. Wonder how it passes the Thatcham tests then?

We are talking about a Disklok and not some other device aren't we?

This is exactly what I am trying to find out- have I been living in a fool's paradise regarding the efficacity (is that a word) of the disklok or is it as good as the manufacturer/thatcham claim?

edit having a nightmare with the quoting

Edited by Motorrad on Wednesday 5th January 22:01

Yes we are talking about the Disklok (silver) that covers the steering wheel and spins freely. I have still got the thing in the garage as i considered writing to the manufacturer and telling them how ste it was! I've no idea how it has a Thatcham accreditation, i used to fit Thatcham alarms/immobs, so did trust the rating it had, i couldnt believe how easy it was to remove... Cost me a windscreen though!

[terzo]

5LDC said:

I had one on my Z3M and after loosing the disklock key whilst out (60 miles from home) i called a friend to go round my house, pick up the spare off the missus and bring it up to me.
I didnt fancy the wait, so with both feet on the lever part of the lock, i forced it open and snapped the lock in around 20 seconds!! my feet did slip off when the fooking thing broke though causing me to kick the rear view mirror and crack the b**tard windscreen!!
IMO they are a Total waste of time, i was amazed how easy it was to remove.

Sounds like BS to me.

Not sure which seat you reckon you were in, but if it was the passenger seat, your feet wouldnt have hit the rear view mirror. If you were in the drivers seat, only a contortionist could get their feet onto the disklok. Besides which, as it freely rotates around the steering wheel even with your feet bracing it, it would slip enough that you wouldn't be able to exert enough force. Lastly if it could be removed so simply, no way would it be accredited by Thatcham.

[5LDC]

terzo said:

5LDC said:

I had one on my Z3M and after loosing the disklock key whilst out (60 miles from home) i called a friend to go round my house, pick up the spare off the missus and bring it up to me.
I didnt fancy the wait, so with both feet on the lever part of the lock, i forced it open and snapped the lock in around 20 seconds!! my feet did slip off when the fooking thing broke though causing me to kick the rear view mirror and crack the b**tard windscreen!!
IMO they are a Total waste of time, i was amazed how easy it was to remove.

Sounds like BS to me.

Not sure which seat you reckon you were in, but if it was the passenger seat, your feet wouldnt have hit the rear view mirror. If you were in the drivers seat, only a contortionist could get their feet onto the disklok. Besides which, as it freely rotates around the steering wheel even with your feet bracing it, it would slip enough that you wouldn't be able to exert enough force. Lastly if it could be removed so simply, no way would it be accredited by Thatcham.

Of course, i've got fk all else better to do than invent stories and post them on pistonheads. For your information i was in the drivers seat holding the lock itself with both hands (to stop it spinning) then with both feet on the lever, forced it open. It actually bent like fk then the lock itself sheared.

[AndyLB]

jon- said:

Get a snap off boss for your steering wheel. Disklocks can be removed, but it's not every day criminals walk around with steering wheels (and a matching boss which are keyed)

Succesfully knackering the airbag/requiring a reset in the process, and having to carry your steering wheel around the supermarket with you...

[terzo]

5LDC said:

Of course, i've got fk all else better to do than invent stories and post them on pistonheads. For your information i was in the drivers seat holding the lock itself with both hands (to stop it spinning) then with both feet on the lever, forced it open. It actually bent like fk then the lock itself sheared.

Fair enough - plenty of people do make stuff up though!

Seems a risky thing to do, with the chance of only being able to bend the lock/lever and then not being able to unlock it even when your mate arrived.

[5LDC]

terzo said:

5LDC said:

Of course, i've got fk all else better to do than invent stories and post them on pistonheads. For your information i was in the drivers seat holding the lock itself with both hands (to stop it spinning) then with both feet on the lever, forced it open. It actually bent like fk then the lock itself sheared.

Fair enough - plenty of people do make stuff up though!

Seems a risky thing to do, with the chance of only being able to bend the lock/lever and then not being able to unlock it even when your mate arrived.

TBH it didn't even cross my mind, it was middle of winter after watching a night game at Stoke with my then 7yr old lad. I was not in the most patient of moods to worry about it not coming off. I'll stick a picture up on here of it when i clear all the crap out of the garage