So, you are drunk and have a crash.

So, you are drunk and have a crash.

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STW2010

5,735 posts

163 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Here is Admiral's specific wording-

http://www.admiral.com/policyDocs/AD116%200610%20P...

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Jgtv

2,125 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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I would say they would pay out unless they have a policy saying they dont have to, so first time you would get paid out the second I doubt it.

My bother crashed our car (almost ten years ago, his first car the car I was learning to drive in) after a night on the piss, getting up after not enough sleep he ended up crashing, think he fell asleep and getting caught for drink driving.

Car was a write off, insurance paid out pretty much all we paid for it as it was only a few weeks old.

Compo_Simmonite

391 posts

188 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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I bought an accident damaged car for a friend off a drunk driver. His insurers paid out for third party but not for the drunks 3 year old write off. He had to sell to car just to pay off fines, recovery, etc.

Paul H

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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What if you were "drunk" and someone hit you from behind?

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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clarkey328is said:
What if you were "drunk" and someone hit you from behind?
Then the other insurers deal with it, bu i suppose they could argue you shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.
Never come across such a case as of yet though.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

191 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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J4CKO said:
Myself and the wife were...
Please don't do this. It's very annoying.

zippyprorider

732 posts

207 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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PHmember said:
just for the record, how fast & how drunk were you / mrs. (delete as appropriate)
I would imagine the op would find that pretty insulting, what is the point of that comment?

notalways

79 posts

180 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
clarkey328is said:
What if you were "drunk" and someone hit you from behind?
Then the other insurers deal with it, bu i suppose they could argue you shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.
Never come across such a case as of yet though.
They could argue it, but they would look pretty stupid.

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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STW2010 said:
Here is Admiral's specific wording-

http://www.admiral.com/policyDocs/AD116%200610%20P...

Page 21
All mouth, no trousers (well, trousers round ankles). ICOBS 8.1.2(3) would prevent them refusing the claim unless the circumstances of the claim are connected to the breach or condition. OK so most accidents whilst drunk would be connected, but one can imagine a situation whereby it was immaterial.


DavidHM

3,940 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Noger said:
STW2010 said:
Here is Admiral's specific wording-

http://www.admiral.com/policyDocs/AD116%200610%20P...

Page 21
All mouth, no trousers (well, trousers round ankles). ICOBS 8.1.2(3) would prevent them refusing the claim unless the circumstances of the claim are connected to the breach or condition. OK so most accidents whilst drunk would be connected, but one can imagine a situation whereby it was immaterial.
Really? Maybe own damage while drunk in a no fault as against an untraced or uninsured driver. MIB would exclude as well IIRC. But I can't envisage any claim where primary liability is established against the policyholder where intoxication wouldn't be material to the risk.

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
clarkey328is said:
What if you were "drunk" and someone hit you from behind?
Then the other insurers deal with it, bu i suppose they could argue you shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.
Never come across such a case as of yet though.
That's what I would have thought. I would be surprised if it had never happened though.

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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clarkey328is said:
ZOLLAR said:
clarkey328is said:
What if you were "drunk" and someone hit you from behind?
Then the other insurers deal with it, bu i suppose they could argue you shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.
Never come across such a case as of yet though.
That's what I would have thought. I would be surprised if it had never happened though.
Oh its bound to have happened just never dealt with a policy yet where it has, would be very interested to find out the outcome though!.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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So my policy with Admiral is cheaper as I don't have to pay out so much when a fellow customer gets pissed up and crashes?

Good smile

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,646 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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zippyprorider said:
PHmember said:
just for the record, how fast & how drunk were you / mrs. (delete as appropriate)
I would imagine the op would find that pretty insulting, what is the point of that comment?
Potentially I could of, no point, I just qualified my position that it was a hypothetical situation but thanks.

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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CampDavid said:
So my policy with Admiral is cheaper as I don't have to pay out so much when a fellow customer gets pissed up and crashes?

Good smile
I'm pleased with that too, I like a drink as much as anyone but wouldn't drink drive (In England anyway wink)

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,646 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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El Guapo said:
J4CKO said:
Myself and the wife were...
Please don't do this. It's very annoying.
Not sure what you mean, have I made a grammer faux-pas, let me know what it should be and I will make sure its correct next time !

stuart-b

3,643 posts

227 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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J4CKO said:
El Guapo said:
J4CKO said:
Myself and the wife were...
Please don't do this. It's very annoying.
Not sure what you mean, have I made a grammer faux-pas, let me know what it should be and I will make sure its correct next time !
Probably "The wife and I ..."

Still, hardly worth a comment is it.


Mr_S

414 posts

200 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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I know of a girl who crashed whilst over the limit and took out a lamppost, the Police were on the scene and she was arrested, charged and convicted of drink driving.

Insurance paid out for her car

She got a bill from the council for the lamppost and the insurance company paid that too.



ticmon

118 posts

189 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Three years ago a mate of mine was going through a dodgy divorce and went out to drown his sorrows. He woke up upside down in his car in someones front garden.

Got banned for 18 months and received a cheque from insurance company as his car was written off. Don't know who the insurer was though.

Edited by ticmon on Thursday 6th January 18:47

Somnophore

1,364 posts

177 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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It's all depends what it says in your policy, most insurers would try to refuse to indemnify your losses if you are found to be over the DD limit, however will have to deal with the third party claims under RTA rules.

However some insurers surprisingly will still pay out for the clients damage when they have been drink driving and had an accidnt. I won't name names as that may be considered irresponsible but a very few will still pay out.