RE: Driven: Autofarm Porsche 911

[TobesH]

edo said:

is it me or is their website broken?

(lots of PH visits?!)

Yep, seems their server is a bit 'overloaded'!

[Wills2]

AndrewW-G said:

Wills2 said:

Renn Sport said:

Not sure what they did to squeeze 250bhp out of the engine though. They are 231bhp from the factory... Mine is only pushing 244bhp but I few more horses to come after a few more mile are added and the engine loosens up.

Because it's got a 3.6 litre 964 engine in it, not a 3.2?

And even then they seem to have lost some power from a standard 964, let alone one with a better exhaust, no cat and a custom map!

They are staying true to the "less is more" Porsche philosophy.

Actually, I think the 964 had 250bhp as standard even so they haven't really increased it.

Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 8th February 18:35

[dave stew]

This is the trouble with 911s - there are so many 'experts' out there to criticise your choice! I love the idea of a modernised 'retro' 911. I'm saving my pennies for a reasonable condition 993 C2...

[WingedWill]

Marf said:

trickywoo said:

Also, why have they put ditch finders on it?

Hoping its a misprint. P6000s on a 911. Dear oh dear oh dear.

They seem to put P6000 on a lot of these old 911's, I saw a 2.7 RS on them the other day, it might be that there isn't a lot of choice in that size these days but it is worth bearing in mind there is a lot of different compounds of P6000's the ones that were originally on my old gti6 were very different to the awful ones you get off the shelf!

[Bogracer]

Why have a replica when for very little more you can buy a pretty much concours RHD 2.4S, which are going up in value?

[dave stew]

Bogracer said:

Why have a replica when for very little more you can buy a pretty much concours RHD 2.4S, which are going up in value?

Because it'll drive like an old car! A modernised retro recreation drives better and isn't a high days and fine days only car!

[graemel]

Jonara said:

Lovely.

I used to have a 1973 911T Targa (RGC 18L). It had been restored and came with all the photos, etc. Looked stunning. I ran it as a daily driver in Central London for nearly 2 years, parked on the street in all weathers. Took it for an MOT and it had a hole in the floor the size of a football...

So, whilst I agree with an earlier poster that if I had the ability to store it away and only bring it out in the dry, an original 911S would be the way to go, if you actually want to use the thing all the time this is a practical alternative.

Agreed. It does make a lot of sense. But not cheap. That said you are buying pretty much a brand new car and having been down the road of building a 3.2SSE into a road legal race car, there was not much on it that did not get replaced and it cost quite a chunk of money and that started off as a rust free low mileage mint road car.
A genuine 'S' will always hold its money but you do have the far greater rust liability. A good mate is in the middle of restoring his 2.2 S that he has owned for some 30 years. The body is ready for paint and I have watched the restoration of the shell with great interest. The 3.2's can still rust but where better protected by the factory. I prefer the wider arches that you get with the 3.2 as you got with the 2.7RS.
I think Kyle might have his numbers a little jumbled up. Unless my eyes deceive me the badge says 2.4. The dash is original 3.2 Carrera not 993 and as already said the 964 engine made 250bhp to start with. I think it might retain the 3.2 engine with 250bhp which makes more sense.
Regardless it is a thing of great beauty and a 2.7RS was one of the best looking 911's ever made. Perfect from every angle.

[dlc74]

Awesome; a lovely conversion bringing out the true purity of a classic 911 with all the more modern benefits.

[glendon]

Perfect!
I only wish there were more companies doing modernized versions of classic motors, I am pretty much bored stiff with modern car design. Here's my list of candidates for a rebirth:

Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV6
Alfasud
BMW 635CSI
Renault 5 GT Turbo Mk1
Lotus Esprit Mk1
Opel Manta?

This is definitely where it's at for me. Oh yes

[///ajd]

[quote]The 3.2 Carrera is the best starting point, as not only does it offer the advantage of a galvanised body, but it's also proportionally correct when fitting the period details like bumpers and lights.
[/quote]

I like it but wish my 3.2 had no rust...

Bedford rascal is right about the flares, but for me these backdates still look very good, just not exactly like an true narrow body.

Anyway - do love the 15"s - whats size is the rubber on this one? Looks like 'oversized/big than stock' section tyres?

[hot66]

dave stew said:

Because it'll drive like an old car! A modernised retro recreation drives better ......

& how have you worked that bit out ???

A well sorted 1973 car drives fantastically & arguably better than a lot of the overweight 'modern' recreations ..... remember, these modern recreations are only using technology from the 80's, not a huge leap forward by any stretch + the suspension is the same anyway.

If you read any of the 'best porsche' comparison tests, it isn't a surprise that the '73 RS tops the list nearly everytime.

A rep is going to be a great car too, but don't make the assumption it will be any better than an already great original.

Ref rust .... drive any 80's carrera 3.2 through a couple of UK winters & you'll soon see rust in that too. A rebuilt rep won't be any different unless cared for ... the same rust traps exist

[Stack]

Paul Stevens does a nice line in 911's as well..

http://www.psautoart.com/ps-cars/Retro-Touring-R/4...

[Pat H]

The retro thing is very nice, but I would feel much happier putting my money into one of these:

[chazwozza]

My kinda sausage

[JNR77]

On the price of the Autofarm conversion i remember an article a few years ago in Evo magazine, the basic / standard package was from about £60,000!!! seems like a bit of a rip off for a couple of new wings bumpers, bit of trim and a respray.

Quite a few outfits have cottoned on to the 'backdating' bandwagon including PS; which again are expensive and dont quite look right but i believe its because they are based on the 964 which has more stuff to cover up.

The best one i have seen is Early 911, Nick Moss's work looks excellant; straight forward menu price list, basic cost is £12,500 (plus the car) http://www.early911.co.uk/html/backdate.html

[dinkel]

Hope you'll like these classic Porkers:

P12 and best Belgium result for this little Duvel.


P31 cracking green 911.


3:08 for the quickest 911s 2 litre screamers (1/50s).


P17 and always a good result for the Dutch Melse entry.


Stunning 904/6 had to retire after just 37 laps. The team came all the way from the USA.

Nice and terrifying screaming stuff. Sorry for the OT 904!

[LRdriver II]

Pretty as it is, the problem is that the entire Porsche world is filled with rip-off merchants and other freeloaders who are mooching off the brand. Hence you see insane prices for what is a body kitted 911. Everybody seems to be an expert and when in doubt they simply up the value to sell it to all the new-money idiots.
Crooks the lot of them..

[dom9]

Beautiful car and always top-notch workmanship from the guys at Autofarm!

I would have one of those in a flash, as a toy, were I in the market for another toy (my current one is in their storage facility).

It may seem a lot of money, but when you see the effort and time these guys put in and the quality of the finished product, it really does represent great value.

I also see that Mikey still has the leather sports seats out of my 996 up on the racking!

[pSyCoSiS]

What a beautiful car, and what an excellent write up.

Describes the car superbly.

From what I have read, this Porka seems like motoring perfection.

And seems like a proper hoot to drive.

[louismchuge]

Pirelli P6000

Oh dear!