Child Seat Advice

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lenats31

438 posts

174 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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DBSV8 said:
I can reccommend the Atka Graco Duologic 2 ,

I upgraded from a Maxi cosy Cabriofix to the Dualogic 2 , when our daughter outgrew the cabriofix ( age 16 months @ 10 kgs ), The Dualogic 2 covers ages from Birth newborn - Toddler - Infant 18 kg 3 - 4 years old .
It has passed the swedish plus test ( higher than European tests ) Is rear facing , and is the most compact of any rear facing seat ,
I have fitted it to a Honda Accord Aerodeck , Lexus IS300 sportcross , and Toyota Yaris , It can be fixed either with seatbelt or Isofix.
It is very easy to fit ,
The seat can be removed with child still a sleep , it has wheels and a trolly handle so you can wheel your baby around a store still asleep , ( great advantage ) you dont need a push chair !
The seat has 3 positions , so you can go from upright to recline position ,

It cost 340euros direct from Sweden , Excellent service from Haken arrived in 4 days , info here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrmKpEN1148&

http://www.carseat.se/store.html

Installed in the Honda using seatbelt option and in recline position 1


Edited by DBSV8 on Tuesday 8th March 07:36
Hi,

I noticed that your seat is installed with the 3 point seatbelt. You have to rute the lap-portion of the seatbelt under the front brace and insert it into the blue beltguides on both sides of the base. The shoulder belt needs to go into the blue clip at the front of the base and through the same blue beltguides on both sides of the base.

here is how it´s done:

http://www.sikkerautostol.dk/2010/09/akta-graco-du...

Scroll to the bottom. there is a video there

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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lenats31 said:
Hi,

I noticed that your seat is installed with the 3 point seatbelt. You have to rute the lap-portion of the seatbelt under the front brace and insert it into the blue beltguides on both sides of the base. The shoulder belt needs to go into the blue clip at the front of the base and through the same blue beltguides on both sides of the base.

here is how it´s done:

http://www.sikkerautostol.dk/2010/09/akta-graco-du...

Scroll to the bottom. there is a video there
thanks Lena , excellent video

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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HI All
I'm now faced with an interesting problem. I currently have a 2004 Jaguar S-Type and my 2 year old daughter has a Maxi Cosi Priorifix seat, so far so good. My partner is now pregnant with twins, and her chosen pram docks with Maxi Cosi Cabriofix seats (which I gather can either be strapped in or have an isofix base). Two of them, of course.

What I need to know is, can I fit the three of them in the back of the car and if not what should I replace the Priorifix with to allow me to do this? Also, going forward, what seats am I likely to be able to fit three of in the back of an S-Type?

Thanks for any suggestions!

Dave

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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dme123 said:
HI All
I'm now faced with an interesting problem. I currently have a 2004 Jaguar S-Type and my 2 year old daughter has a Maxi Cosi Priorifix seat, so far so good. My partner is now pregnant with twins, and her chosen pram docks with Maxi Cosi Cabriofix seats (which I gather can either be strapped in or have an isofix base). Two of them, of course.

What I need to know is, can I fit the three of them in the back of the car and if not what should I replace the Priorifix with to allow me to do this? Also, going forward, what seats am I likely to be able to fit three of in the back of an S-Type?

Thanks for any suggestions!

Dave
Hi DME,

According to the Maxicosi website, you can not fit 3 of these seats in the back.
Here is the link for you to look at & you may find some alternatives on here aswel.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&am...

Also try here to see if they offer something that will fit in all 3 seats.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&am...

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I ended up with my X5 because I couldn't find anything other than a people carrier that would take three seats across the back. An XF/5Series/E Class won't do it. I thought an XJ or a 7 Series might, but they won't (I had a few days thinking seriously about the XJ Supersports, Alpina B7 or 760 Li).

TitaniumTim

13 posts

277 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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boobles said:
If anyone would like any advice whether it be buying the right one, to advice on installation, I can offer this.

I will only offer advice on seat's that fit your specific vehicle, and which seat's are safe. I will not give out any information on any seat's that do not meet these requirements.
Hi boobles,

Awfully decent of you to offer your knowledge around like this... I hope you don't mind if I take advantage?

My girlfriend and I are expecting a daughter in August; a first for both of us. The car is a 2007 RX-8 with ISOFIX. I've been doing some research over the last couple of days and we like the look of the Maxi-Cosi Pebble with the FamilyFix base. I've been on the Maxi-Cosi website and put in the car details but it just says that ISOFIX isn't standard, even though it is fitted on my car.

Any thoughts on this combination; or other seats we should consider? We both like the idea of using some kind of ISOFIX base to make taking the seat in and out easier, especially with the small back seat and suicide doors.

Thanks,

Tim.

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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TitaniumTim said:
boobles said:
If anyone would like any advice whether it be buying the right one, to advice on installation, I can offer this.

I will only offer advice on seat's that fit your specific vehicle, and which seat's are safe. I will not give out any information on any seat's that do not meet these requirements.
Hi boobles,

Awfully decent of you to offer your knowledge around like this... I hope you don't mind if I take advantage?

My girlfriend and I are expecting a daughter in August; a first for both of us. The car is a 2007 RX-8 with ISOFIX. I've been doing some research over the last couple of days and we like the look of the Maxi-Cosi Pebble with the FamilyFix base. I've been on the Maxi-Cosi website and put in the car details but it just says that ISOFIX isn't standard, even though it is fitted on my car.

Any thoughts on this combination; or other seats we should consider? We both like the idea of using some kind of ISOFIX base to make taking the seat in and out easier, especially with the small back seat and suicide doors.

Thanks,

Tim.
Hi Tim,

Always happy to help where I can.... thumbup

With regard to the MaxiCosi website saying that the isofix isn't standard, what they probably mean is, although your car has isofix brackets, they may not have been approved to use this particular child seat. If this seat isn't on the "vehicle list" on their website, you can't use it in your car although as you rightly say, you do have isofix brackets attatched.

Try here. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&am...

They have an isofix base which does appear to recognize that the RX-8 has isofix brackets.
Once you have put in your car details the page does take a minuite to load but stick with it.


knight

5,208 posts

280 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Do you have any recommendations for a seat for a 5 year old in the back of a TVR Cerbera?

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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knight said:
Do you have any recommendations for a seat for a 5 year old in the back of a TVR Cerbera?
Hi,

Due to the shape of the seats & the amount of room, the only seat I can see fitting is a Booster seat. I very much doubt that anything else for a 5yr old will fit.

knight

5,208 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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It's the depth of the seat base which is the problem. Would a booster be ok if it overhangs the seat or does it need to sit properly? We used to use a Recaro Start as recommended by other Cerb drivers, but now she's bigger we are looking at alternatives.

Dino D

1,953 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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lenats31 said:
DBSV8 said:
Installed in the Honda using seatbelt option and in recline position 1
Hi,

I noticed that your seat is installed with the 3 point seatbelt. You have to rute the lap-portion of the seatbelt under the front brace and insert it into the blue beltguides on both sides of the base. The shoulder belt needs to go into the blue clip at the front of the base and through the same blue beltguides on both sides of the base.

here is how it´s done:

http://www.sikkerautostol.dk/2010/09/akta-graco-du...

Scroll to the bottom. there is a video there
Excellent example of why iso-fix can be a good idea - I think it was boobles that said incorrect fitments are the biggest problem. The poster in this case seems to pay allot of attention to the seat selection and uses it it various cars so unlikely a novice so just shows that mistakes can happen to anyone.
I myself use belt in seats but take extra time just to check but when pressed for time or it's pissing down/40c outside it can be a pain and mistakes happen...like the time the baby had a blanket on her and I though she was belted into the seat when in fact she wasn't - so I had a seat secured by top notch base and the child not strapped to the seat...

I have re-adjusted some seats for friends who use belt-ins and thought the seats were in ok but were in fact loose or the belt was not in the correct channels. Most were fitted by women but one male friend could not figure out how to use a Tobi...
The best one was a woman proudly telling me I didn't need to get a Group 1 seat because you could turn a Group 0 Maxi Cosi Cabrio fix (or any other brand for that matter) around and make it forward facing and use it for much longer than 12 months...


Interesting pics on another thread of a booster seat in a Mini roll-over accident - child of 4 was fine - seat was in the front and looks damaged but I suspect that was post accident - boobles care to comment?
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Just shows you that fitted correctly, they do save lives.

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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knight said:
It's the depth of the seat base which is the problem. Would a booster be ok if it overhangs the seat or does it need to sit properly? We used to use a Recaro Start as recommended by other Cerb drivers, but now she's bigger we are looking at alternatives.
TVR made one for the Cerbera.

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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JR said:
knight said:
It's the depth of the seat base which is the problem. Would a booster be ok if it overhangs the seat or does it need to sit properly? We used to use a Recaro Start as recommended by other Cerb drivers, but now she's bigger we are looking at alternatives.
TVR made one for the Cerbera.
How much does it overhang by?

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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boobles said:
JR said:
knight said:
It's the depth of the seat base which is the problem. Would a booster be ok if it overhangs the seat or does it need to sit properly? We used to use a Recaro Start as recommended by other Cerb drivers, but now she's bigger we are looking at alternatives.
TVR made one for the Cerbera.
How much does it overhang by?
Could you expand on this? I wasn't aware that there was now a requirement for a booster seat to overhang at all.

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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JR said:
Could you expand on this? I wasn't aware that there was now a requirement for a booster seat to overhang at all.
There isn't as such. If it overhangs by the smallest amount, I:E 10mm then there isn't a problem. If it overhangs by anymore than this, don't do it.

lenats31

438 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Dino D said:
Excellent example of why iso-fix can be a good idea - I think it was boobles that said incorrect fitments are the biggest problem. The poster in this case seems to pay allot of attention to the seat selection and uses it it various cars so unlikely a novice so just shows that mistakes can happen to anyone.
I myself use belt in seats but take extra time just to check but when pressed for time or it's pissing down/40c outside it can be a pain and mistakes happen...like the time the baby had a blanket on her and I though she was belted into the seat when in fact she wasn't - so I had a seat secured by top notch base and the child not strapped to the seat...

I have re-adjusted some seats for friends who use belt-ins and thought the seats were in ok but were in fact loose or the belt was not in the correct channels. Most were fitted by women but one male friend could not figure out how to use a Tobi...
The best one was a woman proudly telling me I didn't need to get a Group 1 seat because you could turn a Group 0 Maxi Cosi Cabrio fix (or any other brand for that matter) around and make it forward facing and use it for much longer than 12 months...


Interesting pics on another thread of a booster seat in a Mini roll-over accident - child of 4 was fine - seat was in the front and looks damaged but I suspect that was post accident - boobles care to comment?
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
I can´t see wether or not the original poster and owner of the photo has routed the lap portion of the seatbelt under the bar at the front.. It´s difficult to see in photo. The dias in the manual showing this isn´t shown here.

Lena

knight

5,208 posts

280 months

Sunday 27th March 2011
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boobles said:
JR said:
knight said:
It's the depth of the seat base which is the problem. Would a booster be ok if it overhangs the seat or does it need to sit properly? We used to use a Recaro Start as recommended by other Cerb drivers, but now she's bigger we are looking at alternatives.
TVR made one for the Cerbera.
How much does it overhang by?
Probably looking at a couple of inches overhang!

knight

5,208 posts

280 months

Sunday 27th March 2011
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JR said:
TVR made one for the Cerbera.
I was aware that there was a special contraption for the Cerbera but I thought that was just a support that attached to the bottom of the seat and connected into the floor so as to stop the seat rocking forward?

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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knight said:
JR said:
TVR made one for the Cerbera.
I was aware that there was a special contraption for the Cerbera but I thought that was just a support that attached to the bottom of the seat and connected into the floor so as to stop the seat rocking forward?
They made a lovely leather booster seat.