New car lead times??!!
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Good old VW...those of you waiting might have to wait a bit longer, I got this from the company car scheme today.
Ordered in September 2010.
"Following our original e-mail confirming your new vehicle order.
I am writing to inform that your vehicle order is progressing although we have been advised that the anticipated delivery date has changed from mid April to late May.
This change is due to 'Unavailable build slot'.
Please note that the delivery date, at this stage, is still only an estimated one. The dealer will contact you once the vehicle is in stock and has gone through its pre-delivery inspection to confirm and arrange a firm delivery date."
I'd love to know what exactly is progressing?
Ordered in September 2010.
"Following our original e-mail confirming your new vehicle order.
I am writing to inform that your vehicle order is progressing although we have been advised that the anticipated delivery date has changed from mid April to late May.
This change is due to 'Unavailable build slot'.
Please note that the delivery date, at this stage, is still only an estimated one. The dealer will contact you once the vehicle is in stock and has gone through its pre-delivery inspection to confirm and arrange a firm delivery date."
I'd love to know what exactly is progressing?
stewjohnst said:
"Following our original e-mail confirming your new vehicle order.
I am writing to inform that your vehicle order is progressing although we have been advised that the anticipated delivery date has changed from mid April to late May.
This change is due to 'Unavailable build slot'.
They're just taking the piss. Would love to know the real reason.I am writing to inform that your vehicle order is progressing although we have been advised that the anticipated delivery date has changed from mid April to late May.
This change is due to 'Unavailable build slot'.
Someone said further back that VW has been taken off their company car list due to this sort of thing.
Jay12329 said:
What have you ordered? A guy here has been waiting since September for his golf estate, due to turn up in the next week or 2.
J
My golf estate was ordered in November and I'm told it'll be with me in April. I'm not holding my breath though!J
It's totally unacceptable for build/delivery delays, especially when I've spoken to VW head office who can't tell me if/why there's a delay.
My Skoda Superb estate company car was ordered in mid February. 2.0 TDI SE manual, with lots of boxes ticked. I was told it would be a 4 to 5 month wait and would have been 6 months plus had I opted for the 1.6 TDI Greenline (like I would do a foolish thing like that...). They have given me a Mitus
ti Lancer 2.0d to rattle around in meanwhile, which is like driving a van, so here's hoping for a rapid reduction in waiting times.
ti Lancer 2.0d to rattle around in meanwhile, which is like driving a van, so here's hoping for a rapid reduction in waiting times.
plfrench said:
I took delivery today of an A3 that I ordered on the 1st Sep. Glad I wasn't in a hurry to change cars 
Audi really are taking the piss. A friend of mine ordered an A3 at the end of last month. He won't be receiving it until the end of September. Surely this would bump up the value for nearly new cars as people who don't want to wait would just buy nearly new instead? Fahd said:
Audi really are taking the piss. A friend of mine ordered an A3 at the end of last month. He won't be receiving it until the end of September. Surely this would bump up the value for nearly new cars as people who don't want to wait would just buy nearly new instead?
Yes, I got a very good deal selling a 7 month old S5 Cab.Fahd said:
Audi really are taking the piss. A friend of mine ordered an A3 at the end of last month. He won't be receiving it until the end of September. Surely this would bump up the value for nearly new cars as people who don't want to wait would just buy nearly new instead?
Nope, Audi are not taking the piss this time. One of the problems that the whole of Europe and every car manufacturer is facing, is that the only factory in the world that produces various Euro 5 engine management chips was wiped off the face of the earth a few weeks ago, as was the DAB chip factory and the blutooth one....or perhaps you didn't hear about that particular event? I hear this moan every day...but you know what? This time I will say MTFU! 30 odd thousand people where killed....who gives a flying fk if your friends car is a bit late. Because to be honest, I no longer do.TVR1 said:
Nope, Audi are not taking the piss this time. One of the problems that the whole of Europe and every car manufacturer is facing, is that the only factory in the world that produces various Euro 5 engine management chips was wiped off the face of the earth a few weeks ago, as was the DAB chip factory and the blutooth one....or perhaps you didn't hear about that particular event? I hear this moan every day...but you know what? This time I will say MTFU! 30 odd thousand people where killed....who gives a flying fk if your friends car is a bit late. Because to be honest, I no longer do.
I do think that Japanese Tsunami excuse cannot possibly apply to everything in the world though. It seems that everything in the world is being made in Japan, and suddenly there is a massive shortage. Not all of Japan was affected by the Tsunami, and some manufacturers have factories that make semiconductors and the like in other countries like... say... China for example?k if your friends car is a bit late. Because to be honest, I no longer do.A LOT Of people are saying they can't supply such-and-such because of the Japanese Tsunami. Sure, that will apply to a few items, but surely we aren't entirely reliant on the industrial output of a single country?
That is not to belittle what has happened in Japan, of course it was a terrible waste of life and the destruction is on a huge scale, but I'm wondering if it now becomes a convenient excuse for some (not all) manufacturers of certain products.
MarJay said:
I do think that Japanese Tsunami excuse cannot possibly apply to everything in the world though. It seems that everything in the world is being made in Japan, and suddenly there is a massive shortage. Not all of Japan was affected by the Tsunami, and some manufacturers have factories that make semiconductors and the like in other countries like... say... China for example?
A LOT Of people are saying they can't supply such-and-such because of the Japanese Tsunami. Sure, that will apply to a few items, but surely we aren't entirely reliant on the industrial output of a single country?
That is not to belittle what has happened in Japan, of course it was a terrible waste of life and the destruction is on a huge scale, but I'm wondering if it now becomes a convenient excuse for some (not all) manufacturers of certain products.
For many things, yes, we are. And where factories weren't on the face of it damaged by the earthquake, delicate kit was lightly damaged and requires complex re-building / calibrating. Compound this with the fact that many components to do calibration or production are also made in Japan, and compound that with the fact that many factories were damaged (even lightly damaged, we aren't talking about walls collapsing)A LOT Of people are saying they can't supply such-and-such because of the Japanese Tsunami. Sure, that will apply to a few items, but surely we aren't entirely reliant on the industrial output of a single country?
That is not to belittle what has happened in Japan, of course it was a terrible waste of life and the destruction is on a huge scale, but I'm wondering if it now becomes a convenient excuse for some (not all) manufacturers of certain products.
It can be fixed, lead times for key components will come down, but there is not that but slack production capacity around the world to suddenly bridge the gap. Companies are retooling, but some patience is needed.
And yes, I speak from knowledge inside the industry of at least one key subcomponent that are provided by one company and bought by many car manufacturers. And we aren't talking rubber washers, we are talking about a non-optional major component that is material to the production cycle.
MarJay said:
TVR1 said:
Nope, Audi are not taking the piss this time. One of the problems that the whole of Europe and every car manufacturer is facing, is that the only factory in the world that produces various Euro 5 engine management chips was wiped off the face of the earth a few weeks ago, as was the DAB chip factory and the blutooth one....or perhaps you didn't hear about that particular event? I hear this moan every day...but you know what? This time I will say MTFU! 30 odd thousand people where killed....who gives a flying fk if your friends car is a bit late. Because to be honest, I no longer do.
I do think that Japanese Tsunami excuse cannot possibly apply to everything in the world though. It seems that everything in the world is being made in Japan, and suddenly there is a massive shortage. Not all of Japan was affected by the Tsunami, and some manufacturers have factories that make semiconductors and the like in other countries like... say... China for example?k if your friends car is a bit late. Because to be honest, I no longer do.A LOT Of people are saying they can't supply such-and-such because of the Japanese Tsunami. Sure, that will apply to a few items, but surely we aren't entirely reliant on the industrial output of a single country?
That is not to belittle what has happened in Japan, of course it was a terrible waste of life and the destruction is on a huge scale, but I'm wondering if it now becomes a convenient excuse for some (not all) manufacturers of certain products.
You also wouldn't believe some of the obscure parts that are being made out there.
And don't forget, it's not just the suppliers to the OEM's that were affected, it's the level 2, 3 and 4 suppliers to those suppliers that have also been affected.
The Tsunami/earthquake is a massive issue for OEM's still, and will continue to be for a long time to come.
I don't think people realise just how much is being done in all OEM's currently, and was done in the weeks following the disaster to source new suppliers and ensure cars could carry on being built.
If the R+D world had sat on their hands straight after the issue the motor industry would have ground to a halt by now.
Fahd said:
Audi really are taking the piss. A friend of mine ordered an A3 at the end of last month. He won't be receiving it until the end of September.
I don't know why people are coming up the Japan excuse, that's actually pretty quick for a VAG factory order car, especially bearing in mind the factrory will be shut for a month in the middle of that period.We ordered a Fabia Greenline II in March .........we were told we'd get the car in 4-5months. I've spent hours trying to find out why we still don't have a build date and have finally written to the MD of Skoda in the UK. His office is now 'looking into it' and have given us a 'possible' build date of week 44/45 - end November, beginning of December.......Really annoyed and also rather worried, what happens if we ever need a spare part?! Should we be buying a Skoda at all? It's the lack of information that's so frustrating....do they have a real problem with their factory? is it Japan? are they in financial trouble??? questions, questions. Shall we start a facebook page to find out who's waited longest for a new car....is skoda the worst?
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