RE: Porsche Panamera S Hybrid Here In June

[wigsworld]

The whole road tax scheme based on co2 emissions should be scrapped. It's totally unfair, and based on emissions that aren't harmful at all. It should be based on harmful particulate emissions. Just because a car has a low co2 rating doesn't mean it's a clean car, many modern diesels are very dirty.

[braddo]

wigsworld said:

The whole road tax scheme based on co2 emissions should be scrapped. It's totally unfair, and based on emissions that aren't harmful at all. It should be based on harmful particulate emissions. Just because a car has a low co2 rating doesn't mean it's a clean car, many modern diesels are very dirty.

I think they're 2 different things though.

CO2 - emissions lead to greenhouse effect and influence on climate, so not actually pollution, which needs to be regulated another way (which I think it what the 'Euro IV' tests are for?)

Whether you choose to believe the link between CO2/the greenhouse effect and climate change is a separate issue.

[M Powered]

braddo said:

I think they're 2 different things though.

CO2 - emissions lead to greenhouse effect and influence on climate, so not actually pollution, which needs to be regulated another way (which I think it what the 'Euro IV' tests are for?)

Whether you choose to believe the link between CO2/the greenhouse effect and climate change is a separate issue.

Do catch up, Euro V now for emissions (NOx, CO, HC). CO2 isn't regulated in the same way, but fleet average targets apply in the EU.

[SonnyM]

xxplod said:

I will expect 40+ mpg out of the next generation of Boxster and free VEL.

Mine already gives me 36mpg at 60mph.

[XitUp]

Tedz said:

Not a fan of this car.

BUT - if they can make cars pollute less (but drive/handle the same), then I am all for it. Whether that means Hybrid technology (which is a bit suspect due to extra pollution generated in creating the batteries and disposal) or by sticking to improved technology (such as bluemotion/efficient dynamics), or any other way, then go for it.

There isn't that much extra pollution made by making the batteries, and they tend to be recycled at the end of their life. They will more than make up for it over the life of the car.

Isn't bluemotion just high geared diesel engines?

[wigsworld]

braddo said:

I think they're 2 different things though.

CO2 - emissions lead to greenhouse effect and influence on climate, so not actually pollution, which needs to be regulated another way (which I think it what the 'Euro IV' tests are for?)

Whether you choose to believe the link between CO2/the greenhouse effect and climate change is a separate issue.

Even if you do believe that c02 causes the planet to heat up (I don't incidentally) the amount that cars actually produce is tiny and doesn't contribute much at all to our overall c02 emissions. You may as well tax people on how many times they breathe out in a day.