RE: Bowler Nemesis Joins Spyker At CPP

RE: Bowler Nemesis Joins Spyker At CPP

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Jgtv

2,125 posts

198 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Am I the only one wanting the Spyker 4x4 with a Bowler bloodline?

Could be an interesting if expensive alternative to the RR sport.

chazwozza

729 posts

187 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Digga said:
Sounds like good news.

I can certainly see Spykers running Jaguar power plants...
That would be cool, or maybe Aston V12's.....idea

Twincam16

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27,646 posts

259 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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chazwozza said:
Digga said:
Sounds like good news.

I can certainly see Spykers running Jaguar power plants...
That would be cool, or maybe Aston V12's.....idea
Actually, extrapolating my thoughts further, what about a TVR running a 5-litre Jaguar V8?

All British, sublime sound, and a step up from the usual Chevy-powered plastic 'Cobra' alternative.

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

198 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Jgtv said:
Am I the only one wanting the Spyker 4x4 with a Bowler bloodline?

Could be an interesting if expensive alternative to the RR sport.
I think you're bang on the money here, Bowler's 4x4 expertise would go perfectly with that previous concept car and it's clearly an ever-burgeoning market in the East/Russia.

[AJ]

3,079 posts

199 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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I know this thread is more about the Nemesis being built at CCP, but it looks like such a fun toy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Ismn3IWck

TVRWannabee

524 posts

248 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Twincam16 said:
Actually, extrapolating my thoughts further, what about a TVR running a 5-litre Jaguar V8?

All British, sublime sound, and a step up from the usual Chevy-powered plastic 'Cobra' alternative.
Mmmmmmmm......no argument from me there. yum

team will

142 posts

238 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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RudeDog said:
A road going off-roader... what will they think of next.

Seems like a pretty pointless acquisition to me.
I think they mean road legal, rather than a version designed for the road.

SuperBaaaad

1,816 posts

220 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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"Coming (with 24" chrome spinners) to a football club car park near you soon..."

chazwozza

729 posts

187 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Twincam16 said:
chazwozza said:
Digga said:
Sounds like good news.

I can certainly see Spykers running Jaguar power plants...
That would be cool, or maybe Aston V12's.....idea
Actually, extrapolating my thoughts further, what about a TVR running a 5-litre Jaguar V8?

All British, sublime sound, and a step up from the usual Chevy-powered plastic 'Cobra' alternative.
Like the idea, what is happening with TVR anyway?

jake15919

738 posts

166 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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JHS said:
bounce OOHH THIS IS GREAT NEWS RETURN OF THE BRITISH MOTOR IDUSTRY SOMETHING TELLS ME CPP IS GONNA BE A MASSIVE COPORATION IN THE FUTURE.
Agree that it sounds like good news but I would guess Spyker and Bowler combined sell less than 30 vehicles a year. Seeing this as the rebirth of the British motor industry might be getting a bit carried away though.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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camel_landy said:
That road going Nemesis is bonkers. cloud9
Yeah, who wouldn't weant to drive it! Happy days driving

Insight

607 posts

199 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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jake15919 said:
JHS said:
bounce OOHH THIS IS GREAT NEWS RETURN OF THE BRITISH MOTOR IDUSTRY SOMETHING TELLS ME CPP IS GONNA BE A MASSIVE COPORATION IN THE FUTURE.
Agree that it sounds like good news but I would guess Spyker and Bowler combined sell less than 30 vehicles a year. Seeing this as the rebirth of the British motor industry might be getting a bit carried away though.
Thinking about it, with the new McLaren we already have the re-birth of the British Motor Industry, that'll at least produce a few hundred cars a year. For the full list of British car manufacturers (although most are kits) go here: http://www.totalkitcar.com/tkc_article_119.php

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Syker own Saab, so now they're British too? Or do GM still have money in Saab? Either way, this is great news for the British motor industry, & i wish them the best of luck.

Ian974

2,946 posts

200 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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thewheelman said:
Syker own Saab, so now they're British too? Or do GM still have money in Saab? Either way, this is great news for the British motor industry, & i wish them the best of luck.
I don't think they're still involved with saab, but it hurt my brain last time I tried to figure it out.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Insight said:
jake15919 said:
JHS said:
bounce OOHH THIS IS GREAT NEWS RETURN OF THE BRITISH MOTOR IDUSTRY SOMETHING TELLS ME CPP IS GONNA BE A MASSIVE COPORATION IN THE FUTURE.
Agree that it sounds like good news but I would guess Spyker and Bowler combined sell less than 30 vehicles a year. Seeing this as the rebirth of the British motor industry might be getting a bit carried away though.
Thinking about it, with the new McLaren we already have the re-birth of the British Motor Industry, that'll at least produce a few hundred cars a year. For the full list of British car manufacturers (although most are kits) go here: http://www.totalkitcar.com/tkc_article_119.php
Why isn't Morgan on that list? I still want to see a return for Jensen, then i'll be happy.

jake15919

738 posts

166 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Insight said:
Thinking about it, with the new McLaren we already have the re-birth of the British Motor Industry, that'll at least produce a few hundred cars a year. For the full list of British car manufacturers (although most are kits) go here: http://www.totalkitcar.com/tkc_article_119.php
Our cottage motor industry is second to none, and we can clearly still do mass manufacture, but when I think of the British motor industry I always think of this poem by Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away

TVRWannabee

524 posts

248 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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jake15919 said:
Insight said:
Thinking about it, with the new McLaren we already have the re-birth of the British Motor Industry, that'll at least produce a few hundred cars a year. For the full list of British car manufacturers (although most are kits) go here: http://www.totalkitcar.com/tkc_article_119.php
Our cottage motor industry is second to none, and we can clearly still do mass manufacture, but when I think of the British motor industry I always think of this poem by Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away
And lo! In the distance is a large cloud of sand.
Which grows larger and closer.
"My name is Bowler Nemesis, four by four:
Look on my workings, ye MB, and despair!"



jagman21

195 posts

225 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Sorry to dampen things, I feel this is an over expansion for cpp, a business I very much respect, it is I assume awash with cash from it Russian owner, acting like a spoilt child in a toy shop, just wait till the child gets bored with his toys and they end up in the skip. He'll realise he's soon ruined a perfectly good if not small business, remember tvr anyone, even Mg-rover had a similar ending. Sometime small is beautiful.

Let's us agree that mass manfacturing British cars is over, for now. And let's be proud that rolls, bentley and Aston even now Mclaren are all built on these shores, cars that the rest of the world is envious of, let alone all the f1 companies we have, we have great automotive industry here, let's play to our strengths.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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I don't think it's too much of an expansion. Bowler is effectively a "blokes in sheds" organisation, where crucially, the profit margin is not so much based upon production scale.

Besides, Spyker would have needed to buy in a lot of licensed stuff to build this:



so it probably makes sense to just buy the company and avoid the extra spending. CPP also get a lot of chassis technicians, which I guess they wouldn't have had before.

Ed

691 posts

276 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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jagman21 said:
Let's us agree that mass manfacturing British cars is over, for now.
Not to mention the small matter of 240k odd Jags and Land Rover products per year...still designed, engineered and manufacturered in the UK.