EBC Greenstuff Pads V Standard Road Pads?
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Lack of product consistency does a lot to undermine my confidence in the company - can't get it right first time? Who cares, just keep trying and inflicting subpar crap on your customers until you get it right!
No thanks, too many professional companies releasing properly developed and tested products to bother with finding out if it really is "7th time lucky" for EBC.
No thanks, too many professional companies releasing properly developed and tested products to bother with finding out if it really is "7th time lucky" for EBC.
I had two seats of Greenstuff pads. The first were fitted along with a set of grooved discs and whilst braking performance was ok, when hot things took a dramatic turn for the worse. They also wore out within 3,000 miles. I put this down to the grooved discs so swapped back to standard non drilled/grooved discs and tried again (only because I was advised Red Stuff were overkill for the car) however again, same poor performance and rapid wear rate.
I then fitted new standard discs along with Redstuff pads front and rear, changed the fluid and tried that and for what was a relatively simple set up, the brakes were superb. Very very little fade even on track and seemed to last a decent period of time too. Once the fronts wore out (around 10k if I remember correctly) I fitted Black Diamond discs and pads and immediately wished I hadn't.
So, I would happily run Redstuff pads again but definately not Green, even if they have revised the compound.
I then fitted new standard discs along with Redstuff pads front and rear, changed the fluid and tried that and for what was a relatively simple set up, the brakes were superb. Very very little fade even on track and seemed to last a decent period of time too. Once the fronts wore out (around 10k if I remember correctly) I fitted Black Diamond discs and pads and immediately wished I hadn't.
So, I would happily run Redstuff pads again but definately not Green, even if they have revised the compound.
wackojacko said:
with that much power you want to be going for yellows or Blue's.
I have Yellow stuffs on mine and they take a hammering out on track and really bite well even on a cold winter morning.
kambites said:
My Elise had Greenstuff pads on them when I bought it and they were absolutely rubbish. No initial bite, appalling pedal feel and so little friction that I could barely lock the wheels up. I suspect the car was just too light for them to ever get up to temperature. I now have Mintex 1144s on, and they're good, if rather noisy.
Or they overheated through the previous owner using poor braking technique. In my early years of driving I found poor braking would over heat the pads causing them to have less friction and crumble. It's best to do hard, short stops rather than dragging the pedal for ages, the pads don't tend to overheat as much.
Best regards,
Matt
I agree with most of those in this thread- don't buy Greenstuff unless you're willing to work as an EBC test/development engineer for free. Everybody I know has had inconsistent results ranging from 'rubbish' to 'pretty good actually...' Meanwhile, Mintex sell the 1144 compound pads which are about the same price as OEM from a dealership but are actually an upgrade.
peterzoom said:
Overall a thumbs up for Red and Yellow but be wary of the wear rates on both pads and discs
Personally I would now avoid Greenstuff:
My pads grew weary of the wear
I found they flaked and crumbled there
Where others can make better wares
EBC could not sort theirs
Performance Friction's reputation
Was not a fiction, on reflection
Indeed once fitted and bedded in
They were f
king good, and lasted agesI had a set of Yellows on a Focus ST five years ago, they stopped better than stock.
A friend of mine has a set of their slotted and dimpled disks and Green SUV pads on their F150 (over 2 tonnes empty) and it stops really well. We had a caliper off on Friday to free it up and the pads showed no signs of any problems at all, even in general use they get fairly hot (big heavy, automatic). I'd certainly use them again.
A friend of mine has a set of their slotted and dimpled disks and Green SUV pads on their F150 (over 2 tonnes empty) and it stops really well. We had a caliper off on Friday to free it up and the pads showed no signs of any problems at all, even in general use they get fairly hot (big heavy, automatic). I'd certainly use them again.
Arun_D said:
Almost sound like yoiu've mind your made your mind up, I would say stick to road pads too. My experience with greens is also that they need a bit of heat to start biting, and then don't really bite much more than a standard road pad.
I have used Green Stuff Pads in many of my cars and found they perform better than all standard road pads. They last longer in most applications too. Never found they needed heat to work!I have punished them and never had any crumble.
Best car was a Ford Galaxy which needed greens as the car is heavy and standard pads were useless in it. Green Stuff Pads made the brakes work properly, They didnt wreck the discs at all and were simply awesome.
I have heard people slate them but when asked they have never actually owned a set... Sado's
Can't comment on greens, never used them.
Red user here. Similar price to standard DS2500's but much cheaper than the DS competition compound.
Last year was it? They made an effort to up their game so I took the plunge this year. Quite happy. Minimal dust compared to the Pagids on her Boxster (very dusty with normal/fastish road driving.)
Round the track, well I emptied a tank of gas and they never gave up. Had horrendous fade after the first three or so laps, but after some heat sinked in, no problems.
Might consider greens for the Boxster next time and see what they are like.
Red user here. Similar price to standard DS2500's but much cheaper than the DS competition compound.
Last year was it? They made an effort to up their game so I took the plunge this year. Quite happy. Minimal dust compared to the Pagids on her Boxster (very dusty with normal/fastish road driving.)
Round the track, well I emptied a tank of gas and they never gave up. Had horrendous fade after the first three or so laps, but after some heat sinked in, no problems.
Might consider greens for the Boxster next time and see what they are like.
Chuck328 said:
Can't comment on greens, never used them.
Red user here. Similar price to standard DS2500's but much cheaper than the DS competition compound.
Last year was it? They made an effort to up their game so I took the plunge this year. Quite happy. Minimal dust compared to the Pagids on her Boxster (very dusty with normal/fastish road driving.)
Round the track, well I emptied a tank of gas and they never gave up. Had horrendous fade after the first three or so laps, but after some heat sinked in, no problems.
Might consider greens for the Boxster next time and see what they are like.
I don't think they'll suit the Boxster, Greens are best suited to light, warm hatches in my experience. Red user here. Similar price to standard DS2500's but much cheaper than the DS competition compound.
Last year was it? They made an effort to up their game so I took the plunge this year. Quite happy. Minimal dust compared to the Pagids on her Boxster (very dusty with normal/fastish road driving.)
Round the track, well I emptied a tank of gas and they never gave up. Had horrendous fade after the first three or so laps, but after some heat sinked in, no problems.
Might consider greens for the Boxster next time and see what they are like.
The EBC website explains the range well, I suspect that Yellows are what you're looking for.
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