RE: On Video: Nissan's 2011 GT-R Round The Ring

[limpsfield]

Tyngwndwn said:

Auto ,not for me thanks.

I don't think that drivers of 6-year old golfs are high up Nissan's target market list for this car somehow

[anniesdad]

Nice drving, but I bet he can't put a fruit pastille in his mouth without chewing it!!

O/T, I have to say this makes my best NS laptime of 6:46 even more impressive, especially considering I had no traction control in my Lamborghini Murcielago.....all on the PS3 of course.

p.s. lighten up everyone, it's Friday.

[Trommel]

thewheelman said:

I notice you have no car listed, have you driven one?

Yes, on road and track.

[RDMcG]

My own sense of the car is strictly third party, so my comment on it seeming soulless is just that. I have driven both of my GT3 RS at the Ring, and I very much enjoy the feel of these cars, while fully recognizing the superior performance of the Nissan. No doubt about that. I would like to try a GT-R at some point, of course and its quite possible I will become a convert

[thewheelman]

Trommel said:

thewheelman said:

I notice you have no car listed, have you driven one?

Yes, on road and track.

And your verdict? As yet, i've not heard anyone say they'd rather have one over a more driver focused car. That seems to be the verdict from people i know & reviews about the car.

[Trommel]

thewheelman said:

And your verdict? As yet, i've not heard anyone say they'd rather have one over a more driver focused car. That seems to be the verdict from people i know & reviews about the car.

It's very, very good.

What does "more driver focused" mean? GT3RS? Caterham? Go-kart?

[thewheelman]

Trommel said:

thewheelman said:

And your verdict? As yet, i've not heard anyone say they'd rather have one over a more driver focused car. That seems to be the verdict from people i know & reviews about the car.

It's very, very good.

What does "more driver focused" mean? GT3RS? Caterham? Go-kart?

Well as you mentioned the 911 Turbo, that for a start.

Also, this is one of many reviews that say the same as what i've been told...http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=149600738

That was just picked at random. Not saying the Nissan is bad at all, just there are more driver focused cars out there. But then having been a frequent visitor to the Nurburgring, that's my preference.

Also, out of interest, what do you own?

[Trommel]

thewheelman said:

Well as you mentioned the 911 Turbo, that for a start.

Also, this is one of many reviews that say the same as what i've been told...http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=149600738

That was just picked at random. Not saying the Nissan is bad at all, just there are more driver focused cars out there. But then having been a frequent visitor to the Nurburgring, that's my preference.

I didn't mention the 911 Turbo, but that's probably one of the best examples to counter your argument with. Of course, if the highly-respected MSN reviewer disagrees ...

[thewheelman]

Trommel said:

thewheelman said:

Well as you mentioned the 911 Turbo, that for a start.

Also, this is one of many reviews that say the same as what i've been told...http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=149600738

That was just picked at random. Not saying the Nissan is bad at all, just there are more driver focused cars out there. But then having been a frequent visitor to the Nurburgring, that's my preference.

I didn't mention the 911 Turbo, but that's probably one of the best examples to counter your argument with. Of course, if the highly-respected MSN reviewer disagrees ...

The Turbo was mentioned at some point. As for the MSN reviwers opinion, i wonder what makes your or anyone else's opinion better?

Still not mentioned what you own yet.

[guestGTR]

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

[thewheelman]

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

[guestGTR]

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

oh dear , you dont understand ...
thanks for the banter anyway.

[Marf]

Oddball RS said:

Sounds souless to me

Sounds mechanical and agressive to me. shrug.

[thewheelman]

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

oh dear , you dont understand ...
thanks for the banter anyway.

Hehe, if you haven't already, take it to the 'ring, then try an RS Porsche, the Nissan will be quicker, but tell me the Porsche doesn't give you one hell of a buzz. At no point did i say the Nissan was bad by the way. Maybe when i get a go in one, i'll be proved wrong.

[guestGTR]

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

oh dear , you dont understand ...
thanks for the banter anyway.

Hehe, if you haven't already, take it to the 'ring, then try an RS Porsche, the Nissan will be quicker, but tell me the Porsche doesn't give you one hell of a buzz. At no point did i say the Nissan was bad by the way. Maybe when i get a go in one, i'll be proved wrong.

im there in July so ill try your suggestion , would be rude not to ..just got to find some one to lend me their GT3/2 RS.

[thewheelman]

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

oh dear , you dont understand ...
thanks for the banter anyway.

Hehe, if you haven't already, take it to the 'ring, then try an RS Porsche, the Nissan will be quicker, but tell me the Porsche doesn't give you one hell of a buzz. At no point did i say the Nissan was bad by the way. Maybe when i get a go in one, i'll be proved wrong.

im there in July so ill try your suggestion , would be rude not to ..just got to find some one to lend me their GT3/2 RS.

Good on ya I know someone that would let you have a go in a 964 RS (you'd have to be gentle with it)

[guestGTR]

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

oh dear , you dont understand ...
thanks for the banter anyway.

Hehe, if you haven't already, take it to the 'ring, then try an RS Porsche, the Nissan will be quicker, but tell me the Porsche doesn't give you one hell of a buzz. At no point did i say the Nissan was bad by the way. Maybe when i get a go in one, i'll be proved wrong.

im there in July so ill try your suggestion , would be rude not to ..just got to find some one to lend me their GT3/2 RS.

Good on ya I know someone that would let you have a go in a 964 RS (you'd have to be gentle with it)

sounds like a plan..

[thewheelman]

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

guestGTR said:

thewheelman said:

Little defensive there little fella? I know plenty of people that have driven them, & read enough about them to know it doesn't really interest me. Yeah, most cars have driver aids, but not on the level the Nissan does.

So you "know" someone that's driven one and have "read" a lot about it ...mmmm you must be an expert then. Not defensive , just bugs me that people like you read a review or watch top gear then spout off about a subject you have no idea about.

Haha, it seems you're the one that's clueless. I've driven hundreds of cars thanks. Again, you're very defensive. If you need a car that flatters the driver, then fine, i prefer cars that i know that i'm driving it. What is it with Nissan owners being so defensive?

Clueless?? I own the car in question , I track the car in question , I think I would have a better idea than most.
Its not the car that flatters the driver but the driver that flatters the car , to what degree depends on the driver..imo ... without the driver its a stationary piece of metal. I thought you would have had a better understanding of this via your hundreds of cars you've driven

Think you'll find pretty much anyone that's driven one without being bias, says the car flatters the driver. But what ever makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on trolling.

oh dear , you dont understand ...
thanks for the banter anyway.

Hehe, if you haven't already, take it to the 'ring, then try an RS Porsche, the Nissan will be quicker, but tell me the Porsche doesn't give you one hell of a buzz. At no point did i say the Nissan was bad by the way. Maybe when i get a go in one, i'll be proved wrong.

im there in July so ill try your suggestion , would be rude not to ..just got to find some one to lend me their GT3/2 RS.

Good on ya I know someone that would let you have a go in a 964 RS (you'd have to be gentle with it)

sounds like a plan..

pm me if there is such a way on here?

[instructormike]

Quick lap, but no-one's mentioned the drive quality.
If you drove a non yaw/torque management car in the manner that the GTR was driven round in that video you'd be punished severely in lap time, tyre degredation, risk of slip angle induced snap oversteer. You'd put an RS in the barrier quick-time. I'd hate to think now much a dozen laps like that would cost in vehicle wear/fuel.
A significant proportion of 4WD performance car drivers subconsciously develop an approach to taking corners that just doesn't work in "normal" cars. That lap is untidy. You can feel the weight in the car in the braking and turn in in the video. Most of the turn ins are too early if you were driving anything else. Don't take that lap as a demo lap of how to do it. The amount of steering in the Karussells is amusing. A triumph of engineering over driving.
I'd take the generation 2 RS any day. It's a stunning car that has a feel of a racecar. The GTR is impressive. There is a difference.
MC

[petrolsniffer]

Finally beat the rwd cart sprung zr1 then..

I'd still take that over the gtr