RE: Pic Of The Week: Peugeot T16 Evo II

[robsco]

It doesn't matter how much we all pine, there'll never be an era like this again. Ballistic machines.

[interloper]

Smike said:

interloper said:

Twincam16 said:

such as Lancia filling the roll cage of the S4 with nitrous oxide to feed an engine that was already turbocharged and supercharged

Gahhhhh! Why do these hackneyed old chestnuts keep appearing in Rallying threads? It wasn't true at the time and it sure ain't true now! Nitrous oxide just doesn't make sense in a rallying environment.

They used to mix toluene into the fuel and the fumes from that were pretty unpleasant for the drivers/co-drivers

Ah something I can agree with, yep Toluene is a very good octane booster but has/had nasty effects on humans, its not to be confused with Nitrous Oxide though. Anyway Jean Ragnotti (who was asked to look into the Toivonen/Cresto crash) suspected the deaths were a result of Henri passing out due to fumes from a fuel leak.

[alloyrefurb]

rallyman77 said:

No such thing...

Thats Crazy!

[sledge68]

not thought about putting it in there, the car is in france at the moment.

i will look into doing that

Flood said:

Is it in the readers cars section? If not, why not?!

[Jerry Can]

fairly certain that the roll cage rumour was something to do with the Le Mans Porsche 917's i think, and the fire extinguishers were changed at every service with the group A delta not the group b.

[rs mexico]

Watched them in 86 in the last year Grizedale 2. T16 set one of the fastest stage times with the windscreen missing which he lost on the previous stage great car and not a bad driver either can you name him?

[Jerry Can]

rs mexico said:

Watched them in 86 in the last year Grizedale 2. T16 set one of the fastest stage times with the windscreen missing which he lost on the previous stage great car and not a bad driver either can you name him?

Juha Kankkunuen

[BigTaf]

Lono9885 said:

nickfrog said:

Aren't todays (or at least last year's) WRC cars quicker though ? I think it's still an awesome spectacle of skills and danger, but maybe I've lost my rose tinted glasses ?

Erm in a word, no.

Group. B cars were savagely powerful in comparison to today's efforts. The Delta s4 and quattro were around 2.4 secs to 60 and 2 - 2.5 times the power.

Erm yes! the tyres and the trick diff's were a large help to the torque slab that were the 2 litre turbo lump's party trick. It produced the same torque from 3000 to the rev limit

[Lets Torque]

I don't think the WRC will ever get back to the 'Glory Days' because the media dont take much intrest anymore after Richard Burns died , and Colin McRae died . So you have to resort to Dave if you want to watch it.

Also there isn't enough competition nowaadays as its all Citroen and Ford. Even a couple of years back there were Scooby's , Evos , Skoda (with the Octavia), Citroen , Peugeot and Ford battling it out for the WRC crown. You also knew most the drivers... Petter Solberg , Colin McRae , Richard Burns , Seb Loeb + a truck load of Sweeds and Finns , wheras now the only ones i know are Chris Meeke , Ken Block , Seb Loeb.

The best rally car IMO was this:

Lancia Stratos



On another note , the best Motorsport years were:

BTCC - 90's
F1 - 90's/00's
Rally 90's

[rs mexico]

[quote=Jerry Can]
Juha Kankkunuen[/years quote] yep ******* amazing to see its been many years but still seems like yesterday.

[fel71]

Kielder forest RAC 1985 , 2 am asleep in the snow, backfiring t16 on a corner, never woke up so fast in my life, todays wrc may be quicker but nowhere near as exciting.

[Frankeh]

Group B was the pinnacle of rally, imo.
It won't get topped.

[davidanderson_pt]

Lets Torque said:

You also knew most the drivers... Petter Solberg , Colin McRae , Richard Burns , Seb Loeb + a truck load of Sweeds and Finns , wheras now the only ones i know are Chris Meeke , Ken Block , Seb Loeb.

Petter Solberg's still in there, you've also got Ken Block & Kimi Raikonnen if you're looking for some other well known names

Anyway, gereat looking pic that's made it's way to my desktop wallpaper

[Lets Torque]

davidanderson_pt said:

Lets Torque said:

You also knew most the drivers... Petter Solberg , Colin McRae , Richard Burns , Seb Loeb + a truck load of Sweeds and Finns , wheras now the only ones i know are Chris Meeke , Ken Block , Seb Loeb.

Petter Solberg's still in there, you've also got Ken Block & Kimi Raikonnen if you're looking for some other well known names

Anyway, gereat looking pic that's made it's way to my desktop wallpaper

Petter Solberg drives for the privatly entered Citroen Xsara. doesn't he? There are a couple of drivers i still know but the WRC not being broadcast like it used to so i've lost intrest

Tis a nice picture of the Stratos though.

[PascalBuyens]

Basically you're all telling now you're into a French hatchback... Pistonheads has come a long way from what it used to be then...

































































OK, I wouldn't mind one myself LOL

[collateral]

In this case the hatchback provides access to the engine

[bobberz]

Ooh, love this! The Renault 5 Turbo II was pretty cool, too. Something about the idea of a mid engine hatch... Hatchbacks are practical machines. Put a stonking turbo engine in the back, however, and any pretense of practicality is lost. They're just mad, that's why I love 'em!

Saw one of these in the "online car dealership" in GT5, but it's nearly Cr.3,000,000, and I already committed to buying the Panoz Esperante GTLM. I think in GT4 it was like Cr.400,000. That's some inflation in GranTurismoland!

[HereBeMonsters]

Flood said:

Is it in the readers cars section? If not, why not?!

sledge68 said:

not thought about putting it in there, the car is in france at the moment.
i will look into doing that

Could you also look at bringing it back to the UK and letting me have a sit in it? I've wanted one as long as I can remember, I've not even seen a road-going version in the flesh...

[Ahonen]

Jerry Can said:

fairly certain that the roll cage rumour was something to do with the Le Mans Porsche 917's i think, and the fire extinguishers were changed at every service with the group A delta not the group b.

You're right about the 917s. That's a whole other story...

Group B Deltas had the special fire extinguishers too. An old colleague of mine, who definitely knew about such things on account of around 20 years of top line rally mechanic experience, told me many years ago.

[chrisga]

sledge68 said:

Ive got a t16 road car, power is very peaky and feels very fragile but great fun to drive

Awesome. Wow. Any pics of your car pls?