RE: Cars, Stars and... Behind Bars
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Its been a strange morning as i got of the train at euston after reading about a chap called Noel Bresland who is running 223 marathons for charity as his sisters son died after 223 days of life its a remarkable story, then i read this article about some money grabbing middle executive who thinks that he deserves more from life??? On what basis does he deserve more??? as to the contrition this is an epilogue for a book or a film bid, i will lay money on that.
Please see below something worth reading about on a monday.
http://223challenge.com/about.php
Written By Noel Bresland
In January 2007 my sister (Marie) gave birth to twins, Erin and Ethan, 15 weeks and 3 days premature. Both were born no bigger than your hand. Being so little they faced a tough journey to become strong enough to get by on their own. They fought very hard every day. Some of those days were very good days filled with smiles. Ethan charmed us with his cheeky grin and Erin took it all in her stride with her laid back approach. Unfortunately after 223 days it was time for Ethan to stop fighting. It hit everyone hard and for a while life wasn't all that much fun. Time has helped us heal but every now and again it still hurts. But there have also been a lot of positives. Erin continues to thrive, she is growing up fast and eats everything! As a family we are a lot stronger and closer than ever.
The 223 Challenge
So what's the 223 Challenge? Simply put I'm running 223 Marathons in memory of Ethan and all those other little ones born too early or facing a tough race to win their own personal marathons. That's one marathon for each day that Ethan fought his brave fight. My first marathon in this challenge was in London in April 2009. Since then I have continued to add to the total. It is going to be long journey with many twists and turns along the way. I never got to hold Ethan, but he is with me every day. He sits on my shoulder, giggles in my ear and gives me a pat on the back when I get tired. These runs are for my family, Ethan and for me, but they are also a great way to raise money for Bliss and CHILDREN with LEUKAEMIA. I would really appreciate your support on this journey, through donations, encouragement or even maybe joining me on some of these marathons. I hope this has encouraged you to support a really worthwhile cause. At the very least, I hope you have been touched by Erin and Ethan's story and are encouraged to go away and give somebody you love a hug and a great big smile. I will be smiling every time I run. For those of you wishing to find out a little more about Erin and Ethan's story please feel free to visit: http://ethan-perry.gonetoosoon.org/. Your tributes are most welcome.
Please see below something worth reading about on a monday.
http://223challenge.com/about.php
Written By Noel Bresland
In January 2007 my sister (Marie) gave birth to twins, Erin and Ethan, 15 weeks and 3 days premature. Both were born no bigger than your hand. Being so little they faced a tough journey to become strong enough to get by on their own. They fought very hard every day. Some of those days were very good days filled with smiles. Ethan charmed us with his cheeky grin and Erin took it all in her stride with her laid back approach. Unfortunately after 223 days it was time for Ethan to stop fighting. It hit everyone hard and for a while life wasn't all that much fun. Time has helped us heal but every now and again it still hurts. But there have also been a lot of positives. Erin continues to thrive, she is growing up fast and eats everything! As a family we are a lot stronger and closer than ever.
The 223 Challenge
So what's the 223 Challenge? Simply put I'm running 223 Marathons in memory of Ethan and all those other little ones born too early or facing a tough race to win their own personal marathons. That's one marathon for each day that Ethan fought his brave fight. My first marathon in this challenge was in London in April 2009. Since then I have continued to add to the total. It is going to be long journey with many twists and turns along the way. I never got to hold Ethan, but he is with me every day. He sits on my shoulder, giggles in my ear and gives me a pat on the back when I get tired. These runs are for my family, Ethan and for me, but they are also a great way to raise money for Bliss and CHILDREN with LEUKAEMIA. I would really appreciate your support on this journey, through donations, encouragement or even maybe joining me on some of these marathons. I hope this has encouraged you to support a really worthwhile cause. At the very least, I hope you have been touched by Erin and Ethan's story and are encouraged to go away and give somebody you love a hug and a great big smile. I will be smiling every time I run. For those of you wishing to find out a little more about Erin and Ethan's story please feel free to visit: http://ethan-perry.gonetoosoon.org/. Your tributes are most welcome.
jayfish said:
From the early tones i think there will be more conrition than gloat as the story progresses, will be reading on.
I agree. It looks like it is shaping up to be an interesting account of the lengths that one man went to service his fantasy. Having some experience of working on fraud investigation I've seen how seemingly normal people can perpetrate crimes that they consider victimless or even just getting what they are due. Well done PH for taking a punt on this one.I understand why PH have posted this - it's a classic tale of rags to riches via the "i'm eventually going to get caught" route. Many true tale movies are out there based on stories like this one, so yes in that sense it is entertaining to read.
However (and it's a big however), the bloke who wrote this was the thief and I get a feeling that a piece of his "old" ego remains. A case of "aren't I smart, and look what I did, haha" - much like a spoilt child with little rules. I'm sure he now acknowledges what he did was wrong, thanks to the prison sentence and he was thankfully brought back down to earth with a thud but it isn't the point.
If someone came over to you and said "i once made a few pop and lived a lavish lifestyle with dream cars", I'll happily chat away listening to the story. BUT if they boasted how they stole from innocent people (like this article), I would be tempted to call the chap a total &*$% and walk off.
I know another guy like this who isn't very popular at the moment and has stolen from everyday people. He's name is Bernard Madoff; its people like him and James Munroe that £$%^ it up for the rest of us.
Life is essentially a big game. What you have done sir is cheat - any of us can do it but we chose not to as we have morals. You're a fraud, simple as. All of us would humbly have a Golf GTi knowing we earned it via hard work, rather than have a Ferrari knowing every waking day that you're a fraud. A fake. A cheat. A thief.
Enjoy your bus ticket...
However (and it's a big however), the bloke who wrote this was the thief and I get a feeling that a piece of his "old" ego remains. A case of "aren't I smart, and look what I did, haha" - much like a spoilt child with little rules. I'm sure he now acknowledges what he did was wrong, thanks to the prison sentence and he was thankfully brought back down to earth with a thud but it isn't the point.
If someone came over to you and said "i once made a few pop and lived a lavish lifestyle with dream cars", I'll happily chat away listening to the story. BUT if they boasted how they stole from innocent people (like this article), I would be tempted to call the chap a total &*$% and walk off.
I know another guy like this who isn't very popular at the moment and has stolen from everyday people. He's name is Bernard Madoff; its people like him and James Munroe that £$%^ it up for the rest of us.
Life is essentially a big game. What you have done sir is cheat - any of us can do it but we chose not to as we have morals. You're a fraud, simple as. All of us would humbly have a Golf GTi knowing we earned it via hard work, rather than have a Ferrari knowing every waking day that you're a fraud. A fake. A cheat. A thief.
Enjoy your bus ticket...
Edited by Anubis on Monday 4th April 09:42
Going to go make a coffee for this one!
ETA: "A few may empathise with my story. Many more will criticise, no doubt. Read on and judge for yourself..."
How the f
k would anyone empathise with this story? We all have the same dreams but we don't have the overinflated ego to feel we actually deserve these things enough to be a heartless little bd and steal for it.
ETA: "A few may empathise with my story. Many more will criticise, no doubt. Read on and judge for yourself..."
How the f
k would anyone empathise with this story? We all have the same dreams but we don't have the overinflated ego to feel we actually deserve these things enough to be a heartless little bd and steal for it.Edited by MSTRBKR on Monday 4th April 10:09
I cannot tell you about how much I dislike this chap and what a disgrace he is to business. I worked in the same organisation way back in the mid 90's and he was a most unpleasant human being then. Jail was too good for him and he should never be trusted with any position of responsibility again. Tosser!! Why publish this article PH?
I agree - don't think this guy deserves any attention whatsoever. He is a criminal and frankly don't think he should be given the time of day.
As for telling people to 'get off their high horse' when they say that this is in bad taste, well that is just proposterous. You've seen the responses to those posts where peoples cars get stolen haven't you? Well how is this different to having a car thief on here, in principle?
As for telling people to 'get off their high horse' when they say that this is in bad taste, well that is just proposterous. You've seen the responses to those posts where peoples cars get stolen haven't you? Well how is this different to having a car thief on here, in principle?
Typical PH these days , people jumping up and down on their high horse just because they don't agree with something.
For me its certainly interesting to read and looking forward to how this story pans out in subsiquent episodes. I may not agree with the ethics of obtaining the money but it certainly doesn't mean that the story should be ignored and hidden under the carpet. Good on the chap for opening up and letting people in on a part of his life i'm sure he regrets happened (and i'm sure most of the obvious responces on this thread are re-iterating what the chap probably is all to aware of already). Its interesting to understand the mentality of people as they go down that path and also i'm sure this will end in a way that will re-iterate the fact that crime doesn't pay in the long run...
For me its certainly interesting to read and looking forward to how this story pans out in subsiquent episodes. I may not agree with the ethics of obtaining the money but it certainly doesn't mean that the story should be ignored and hidden under the carpet. Good on the chap for opening up and letting people in on a part of his life i'm sure he regrets happened (and i'm sure most of the obvious responces on this thread are re-iterating what the chap probably is all to aware of already). Its interesting to understand the mentality of people as they go down that path and also i'm sure this will end in a way that will re-iterate the fact that crime doesn't pay in the long run...
Edited by NotNormal on Monday 4th April 09:50
My verdict isn't yet out on this one. On the first read he actually makes me think of a rapist. Looking at pretty pictures/movies of extremely desirable women is ok, but then taking matters into his own hands, having sex with them because it's their fault they are so attractive, and he actually desires them.
I think this site is full of petrolheads, and a lot of people have a healthy sexual appetite. This seems to me the story of the petrolhead equivalent of a rapist.
I still want to read the next part, as I do think it's an interesting read.
fking hell, he was on £51 grand in 2000, equivilant to a salary of £62,000 today, and couldn't afford the car he wanted!! Just what sort of lifestyle was he leading brfore he turned to robbing his employer?
This was a greedy chancer, and I see no point in his story, what next "Tbops, how I built up my car collection?"
king hell, he was on £51 grand in 2000, equivilant to a salary of £62,000 today, and couldn't afford the car he wanted!! Just what sort of lifestyle was he leading brfore he turned to robbing his employer?This was a greedy chancer, and I see no point in his story, what next "Tbops, how I built up my car collection?"
Edited by mercfunder on Monday 4th April 10:03
PH editors,
The site is better off without some criminal bragging about his crimes. This isn't the daily mail, your readers do not aspire to be the next Nick Leeson, and you're just giving the bloke another chance to be the centre of attention, despite not having worked for it.
Why not do an alternative, where you get PHers who have serious metal to tell us all about their hard work that led to the cars? Would be far more interesting.
The site is better off without some criminal bragging about his crimes. This isn't the daily mail, your readers do not aspire to be the next Nick Leeson, and you're just giving the bloke another chance to be the centre of attention, despite not having worked for it.
Why not do an alternative, where you get PHers who have serious metal to tell us all about their hard work that led to the cars? Would be far more interesting.
Great peice PH with regards to his thoughts about cars. Interesting what his thoughts were on the Ferrari 348(Rattles,creaks etc) - basically it was Sh*t but the lure of having a Ferrari made him go out a buy it anyway. Having been in some older cars that i dreamed about as a child, Diablo,512TR,Countach, it is so true, what is it they say about never meeting your heroes?.........You will only be disapointed. Also true about the salesman that are not actually private school educated toffs but your everyday door to door salesman that has just talked his way into working at a Ferrari garage.
As for people getting on there high horse, if you read some of the nonsense posted in the politics section almost everyday then i find it a bit rich that some posters seem disgusted by this story.
We all like movies like the Godfather,Scarface and the Sopranos which are based on the lifes of scumbags so i am not sure why anyone seems in anyway disgusted by this peice.
Great peice PH.
As for people getting on there high horse, if you read some of the nonsense posted in the politics section almost everyday then i find it a bit rich that some posters seem disgusted by this story.
We all like movies like the Godfather,Scarface and the Sopranos which are based on the lifes of scumbags so i am not sure why anyone seems in anyway disgusted by this peice.
Great peice PH.
If you don't like it then don't read it, is the usual sentiment on here isn't it?
I don't like the guy for what he did, but I am curious as to what he spunked 'his' 2 mill on.
However, you have to question the intelligence of somebody trying to live a double life, appearing on a television show with a glamour model and naff 80's popstar to promote his new racing team - tt 
I don't like the guy for what he did, but I am curious as to what he spunked 'his' 2 mill on.
However, you have to question the intelligence of somebody trying to live a double life, appearing on a television show with a glamour model and naff 80's popstar to promote his new racing team - t
t NotNormal said:
Typical PH these days , people jumping up and down on their high horse just because they don't agree with something.
For me its certainly interesting to read and looking forward to how this story pans out in subsiquent episodes. I may not agree with the ethics of obtaining the money but it certainly doesn't mean that the story should be ignored and hidden under the carpet. Good on the chap for opening up and letting people in on a part of his life i'm sure he regrets happened (and i'm sure most of the obvious responces on this thread are re-iterating what the chap probably is all to aware of already). Its interesting to understand the mentality of people as they go down that path and also i'm sure this will end in a way that will re-iterate the fact that crime doesn't pay in the long run...
Not at all some things are just morally wrong, the guy is deluded by his own ego and image of self worth if he was truly full of contrition he would do something to help the people he hurt along the way, rather than telling his grandiose tail, he is looking to use this as a platform to make money and get people to feel sorry for him and thats not a good use of this forum, much the same as the Louis Theroux programme last night there are some people who just are not nice people and they should not be given any sort of platform to air their views.For me its certainly interesting to read and looking forward to how this story pans out in subsiquent episodes. I may not agree with the ethics of obtaining the money but it certainly doesn't mean that the story should be ignored and hidden under the carpet. Good on the chap for opening up and letting people in on a part of his life i'm sure he regrets happened (and i'm sure most of the obvious responces on this thread are re-iterating what the chap probably is all to aware of already). Its interesting to understand the mentality of people as they go down that path and also i'm sure this will end in a way that will re-iterate the fact that crime doesn't pay in the long run...
Edited by NotNormal on Monday 4th April 09:50
This is a one sided tail, and as such as a previous poster said a balancing argument should be done with interviews of the people who have lost the money and how its affected their lives. He will end up making a sh*tload of money just like Nick Leeson and the train robbers, these guys sell their stories for film and books the millions will role in again he should be stripped of any income he makes from this story
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