Done for HID headlights.
Discussion
F i F said:
Is it just me that is a bit cynical but that all seemed just a bit too easy to get the ticket cancelled with a couple of phone calls with no apparent exchange of paperwork / evidential backup of claims.
Sorry but that's my view, regardless that the requirement for washers and self levelling does not apply universally. Devil in detail as always.
Not just you, no!! Sorry but that's my view, regardless that the requirement for washers and self levelling does not apply universally. Devil in detail as always.
poo at Paul's said:
F i F said:
Is it just me that is a bit cynical but that all seemed just a bit too easy to get the ticket cancelled with a couple of phone calls with no apparent exchange of paperwork / evidential backup of claims.
Sorry but that's my view, regardless that the requirement for washers and self levelling does not apply universally. Devil in detail as always.
Not just you, no!! Sorry but that's my view, regardless that the requirement for washers and self levelling does not apply universally. Devil in detail as always.
Seems a bit odd that an EU built car destined for a RHD country would be built with the wrong parts?
I can understand the officers point of view though - its not necessarily the fact whether the car came with them, its that looking at it, it has retro fit hid's. If it had Renault on the ballasts and looked OE then might he have said it was OK?
I also find it odd to have the issue dropped after a phone call, without even a visual inspection.
There must have been a reason for the initial stop.
I can understand the officers point of view though - its not necessarily the fact whether the car came with them, its that looking at it, it has retro fit hid's. If it had Renault on the ballasts and looked OE then might he have said it was OK?
I also find it odd to have the issue dropped after a phone call, without even a visual inspection.
There must have been a reason for the initial stop.
Sounds a bit far fetched to me.
In the event this is a face saving exercise, do we expect a picture of the bulbs/setup of his actual car to surface? I don't think so.
If this was just like 'any other HID car' then I can't see Plod bothering them. I say they were a silly colour or badly height adjusted (due to no auto adjusters), ergo they got noticed, otherwise 9 times out of 10 plod would pull people with halogens trying to find a xenon light owner!
In any case, chances are the OP made themselves a target. In the tiny chance they were not, then bad luck... but you haven't helped yourself on here from looking guilty by being so cagey about providing pics/reference material of your kit (while holding a container of spam
)
Dave
In the event this is a face saving exercise, do we expect a picture of the bulbs/setup of his actual car to surface? I don't think so.
If this was just like 'any other HID car' then I can't see Plod bothering them. I say they were a silly colour or badly height adjusted (due to no auto adjusters), ergo they got noticed, otherwise 9 times out of 10 plod would pull people with halogens trying to find a xenon light owner!
In any case, chances are the OP made themselves a target. In the tiny chance they were not, then bad luck... but you haven't helped yourself on here from looking guilty by being so cagey about providing pics/reference material of your kit (while holding a container of spam
)Dave
DAVEVO9 said:
However, a HID kit with the correct colour temp (4300k) can vary between manufacturers, fitted to a car with halogen projector style headlights, you wouldn't know.
It's easy to see the difference between a legal xenon projector and an aftermarket xenon bulb fitted to a halogen projector - the beam patterns are quite different.The correct beam pattern for a xenon dipped beam has two horizontal cut-offs with a small step between. The beam to the left of centre has the higher cut-off.
This compares with the beam pattern for non-xenon dipped beams which have the same horizontal cut-off to the right of centre but the left of centre cut-off slopes up to the left.
The main problem of xenon bulbs in headlights not designed for them is the light that is emitted above the cut-off. This is the light that illuminates overhead retro-reflective roadsigns, and if a standard headlamp contains a xenon bulb, which will be significantly brighter, then the extra light above the cut-off is very glaring for other road users.
Edited by AnotherGareth on Wednesday 20th April 13:57
AnotherGareth said:
and if a standard headlamp contains a xenon bulb, which will be significantly brighter, then the extra light above the cut-off is very glaring for other road users.
Which some bikers manage to achieve with ordinary lights by driving with FULL beam on, lighten up guys, dip those bloody beams.Edited by AnotherGareth on Wednesday 20th April 13:57
Vipers said:
Which some bikers manage to achieve with ordinary lights by driving with FULL beam on, lighten up guys, dip those bloody beams.
Seconded, it's amazing how distracting it can be even in full daylight.If the cocks only realised that this can really screw up people's depth and distance perception.
At a slight tangent, would also wish West Mercia Police units would turn off their wig wag main beam headlight flash at night too!!!
AnotherGareth said:
The correct beam pattern for a xenon dipped beam has two horizontal cut-offs with a small step between. The beam to the left of centre has the higher cut-off.
This compares with the beam pattern for non-xenon dipped beams which have the same horizontal cut-off to the right of centre but the left of centre cut-off slopes up to the left.
Maybe on newer cars. My MY2000 Vx Omega Elite has factory HIDs with washers and auto levelling, but they have the same beam pattern as my old omega with Halogens. So a clear cut off horizontal line, both beams exactly level, with a kick up at the left hand edge. This compares with the beam pattern for non-xenon dipped beams which have the same horizontal cut-off to the right of centre but the left of centre cut-off slopes up to the left.
Headlamp units are original Vx as are the bulbs etc. To be honest they are rubbish , be better holding out a candle but thats the same for all Omegas of that era.
AnotherGareth said:
It's easy to see the difference between a legal xenon projector and an aftermarket xenon bulb fitted to a halogen projector - the beam patterns are quite different.
The correct beam pattern for a xenon dipped beam has two horizontal cut-offs with a small step between. The beam to the left of centre has the higher cut-off.
If I may I would like to correct you on the 2 points you made I have quoted.The correct beam pattern for a xenon dipped beam has two horizontal cut-offs with a small step between. The beam to the left of centre has the higher cut-off.
Not all HID projectors have the cut off/step you mentioned. Some have the "kick up" to the left. I have included 2 pics of my HID lights, 1 showing the beam pattern, the other showing the actual shield part of the projector which I have dismantled on a spare pair I have.
The 3rd pic is of a typical HID beam pattern to which you refer too. This beam pattern you can see has the flat/small step.
This beam pattern is also what the USA market use and is known as DOT, (department of transport) I believe it's called.
ensignia said:
Have you modified your projectors, because that's some sharp and colourful cutoff you have there?
If you are referring to the 2nd pic which is my cars headlight pattern then no, that is completely OEM.The 3rd pic is just a library pic I took off the net to show the different cut off.
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