RE: Driven: Noble M600 (Production Version)

RE: Driven: Noble M600 (Production Version)

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Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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British Beef said:
I suspect it is faster than anything Porsche or Ferrari currently make (GT2 RS and 599 fxx included) - based purely on Weight, power, handling and Nobles of old demonbstrate this.
honestly, unlikley.

unless your going to go with 1/4 mile times or the like....

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Monty Python said:
The Ultima kind of puts it in perspective - you could pick up a 720bhp model for less than half the price.
people quote ultimas all the time but an ultima isn't even close to being a proper car
this might ruffle feathers but its poor for a kit car in my opinion

you might as well start talking about your mums lawnmower than has a V12 strapped to it

TuxMan

9,010 posts

239 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Ive seen the M600 up close and the build quality is frankly incredible !!! the performance is on another level compared with a Ultima , ive owned one and my M12 would give it a hard time especialy over a bumpy road !!

Noble Automotive have done a hell of a job producing this car and i for one would love to see it succeed !!!! The best of British is every sense !!!

invisible hand

6 posts

162 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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While 200k does indeed seem expensive when compared to the 458 and the MP4-12C, it seems reasonable value when compared to, say, a Koenigsegg - a company and product whose profile appears to echo many of the comments to be found regarding Noble and this car, i.e. recently-founded, small company with limited production capacity, slightly generic "kit-car" looks (I appreciate that this point is contentious; I happen to think that neither looks particularly like a kit-car, unlike the Ultima, as alluded to by Ozzie above, though neither feature the stylistic drama of the 458 or Zonda), ambitious performance claims, similar figures on paper (headline-catching top speed aside), and "dubious" heritage (the tendency to approach a British company's efforts in this regard with caution is hardly unwarranted, though Sweden is not exactly the first nation to spring to mind when one mentions world-beating performance sports cars).

Furthermore the M600, at least on initial evaluation, appears to be more usable in a day-to-day sense, and comes in at lower than half the price. Good luck to Noble - I hope that their ambition is rewarded and that owners are rewarded for plumping for this less obvious choice.

Edited by invisible hand on Monday 25th April 10:56

DrRazzle

91 posts

194 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Scuffers said:
I am still to be convinced that this is anything special (as in £200K special) when the McLaren/Ferrari/etc are all cheaper and arguably more compedant.
Bit of pot calling the kettle black my friend.

jamie g

516 posts

217 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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A bit unfair to compare the M600(or any other supercar) to an Ultima GTR. The Ultima is single minded in it's approach and can only just be called a road car. At a track nothing will be as quick, but the Ultima will lose in everyday situations. I still want one above almost anything else.

I'm not keen on the over styled ferrari or the slightly uninspiring Mclarren, but if I had £200k to spend my view on cars could well change, but I think the Noble will still be top of my list.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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DrRazzle said:
Scuffers said:
I am still to be convinced that this is anything special (as in £200K special) when the McLaren/Ferrari/etc are all cheaper and arguably more compedant.
Bit of pot calling the kettle black my friend.
how so?

arumbelow

3 posts

157 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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i also saw a m600 in leamington was it bright blue?

arumbelow

3 posts

157 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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MattOz said:
Saw this car in Leamington Spa last week. It both looked and sounded fantastic. smile
i also saw a m600 in leamington was it bright blue?

Patrick Bateman

12,192 posts

175 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Scuffers said:
how so?

boost threshold anyone? (as in turbo's not spooled up at 2K)
650bhp in a car not weighing very much...

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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I'd have one if I had the cash, even over the Lamborgini, Ferrari and McLaren current offerings. That might change when I see more Aventadors though, but I love the Noble, I've liked it since I saw it on Top Gear in that slightly unflattering blue colour a while back.

SimonV8ster

12,619 posts

229 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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I like the write up but does anybody think the photos in the article are a bit poor ? Not much point taking pictures in night time and the article goes on about the interior and then you don't actually see it ?

amare32

2,417 posts

224 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Looks a bit of a monster but for £200k, I'd rather have an F430 Scuderia with enough change for trackdays and driver training to improve my abilities.

If someone offered it to me for free I wouldn't say no smile

fatbutt

2,659 posts

265 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Why does everyone keep banging on about the 600+ bhp like that's somehow difficult or unique?! A mate of mine has a modified shelby mustang with 1200 bhp - did the texas mile at 200+ mph. Admittedly he's poured 40 or 50 grand into the engine alone but turbo charging a volvo v8 is not a big deal.

I took my 600bhp truck to a local tuner (bumberas in houston) and they offered to strap on a supercharger and give me 800bhp by the end of the week. As the truck was on leaf springs with zero (girly) driver aids, I politely declined.

Big power with forced induction is not difficult.

Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.

From the autocar article I read, didn't the m600 break down? Had that been a TVR the car would have been laughed at and dismissed. I'd love to know who Noble have got pictures of to get all this praise for a pug ugly, over priced parts big of a car!

And FFS, stop mentioning the button from a jet. It was silly and cheesy two years ago, its plain embaressing now.

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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fatbutt said:
Why does everyone keep banging on about the 600+ bhp like that's somehow difficult or unique?! A mate of mine has a modified shelby mustang with 1200 bhp - did the texas mile at 200+ mph. Admittedly he's poured 40 or 50 grand into the engine alone but turbo charging a volvo v8 is not a big deal.

I took my 600bhp truck to a local tuner (bumberas in houston) and they offered to strap on a supercharger and give me 800bhp by the end of the week. As the truck was on leaf springs with zero (girly) driver aids, I politely declined.

Big power with forced induction is not difficult.

Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.

From the autocar article I read, didn't the m600 break down? Had that been a TVR the car would have been laughed at and dismissed. I'd love to know who Noble have got pictures of to get all this praise for a pug ugly, over priced parts big of a car!

And FFS, stop mentioning the button from a jet. It was silly and cheesy two years ago, its plain embaressing now.
Couldn't agree more, loads of 600hp+ cars trawling around Sydney at the moment...

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

223 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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£200,000 and they use indicator stalks from a 306?

TheOrangePeril

778 posts

181 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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ZeeTacoe said:
£200,000 and they use indicator stalks from a 306?
Hardly surprising seeing as the Lambo Countach used the same stalks as my Morris Ital...

TheOrangePeril

778 posts

181 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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p.s. And no, I'm not "running Countach stalks" on the Beige Barracuda, they just used Leyland bits!

menguin

3,764 posts

222 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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fatbutt said:
Why does everyone keep banging on about the 600+ bhp like that's somehow difficult or unique?!

Big power with forced induction is not difficult.

Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
I've not seen one mention of how achieving 650bhp is difficult or unique? What many people have talked about is getting all of that power down in something that weighs almost nothing.

Putting large amounts of power in a light car does not a fast car make! It is slightly more complicated than that. If I put 1000hp in a mini, I wouldn't imagine it would be that fast!

Colvette

844 posts

248 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Corvette Z06 - 505bhp, 0-60 3.8 seconds, circa £50k ($40k-ish second hand)
Corvette ZR1 - 658bhp (IIRC), 0-60 3.2 seconds, circa £80k.

Both include all kinda of driving aids, air-con, cruise, sat-nav, HUD.

So I'd have a choice of 1 M600, or 2 ZR1's and enough money to holiday in fine style for the next 10 years?

Decisions, decisions...