RE: Driven: Noble M600 (Production Version)
Discussion
Monty Python said:
The Ultima kind of puts it in perspective - you could pick up a 720bhp model for less than half the price.
people quote ultimas all the time but an ultima isn't even close to being a proper carthis might ruffle feathers but its poor for a kit car in my opinion
you might as well start talking about your mums lawnmower than has a V12 strapped to it
Ive seen the M600 up close and the build quality is frankly incredible !!! the performance is on another level compared with a Ultima , ive owned one and my M12 would give it a hard time especialy over a bumpy road !!
Noble Automotive have done a hell of a job producing this car and i for one would love to see it succeed !!!! The best of British is every sense !!!
Noble Automotive have done a hell of a job producing this car and i for one would love to see it succeed !!!! The best of British is every sense !!!
While 200k does indeed seem expensive when compared to the 458 and the MP4-12C, it seems reasonable value when compared to, say, a Koenigsegg - a company and product whose profile appears to echo many of the comments to be found regarding Noble and this car, i.e. recently-founded, small company with limited production capacity, slightly generic "kit-car" looks (I appreciate that this point is contentious; I happen to think that neither looks particularly like a kit-car, unlike the Ultima, as alluded to by Ozzie above, though neither feature the stylistic drama of the 458 or Zonda), ambitious performance claims, similar figures on paper (headline-catching top speed aside), and "dubious" heritage (the tendency to approach a British company's efforts in this regard with caution is hardly unwarranted, though Sweden is not exactly the first nation to spring to mind when one mentions world-beating performance sports cars).
Furthermore the M600, at least on initial evaluation, appears to be more usable in a day-to-day sense, and comes in at lower than half the price. Good luck to Noble - I hope that their ambition is rewarded and that owners are rewarded for plumping for this less obvious choice.
Furthermore the M600, at least on initial evaluation, appears to be more usable in a day-to-day sense, and comes in at lower than half the price. Good luck to Noble - I hope that their ambition is rewarded and that owners are rewarded for plumping for this less obvious choice.
Edited by invisible hand on Monday 25th April 10:56
A bit unfair to compare the M600(or any other supercar) to an Ultima GTR. The Ultima is single minded in it's approach and can only just be called a road car. At a track nothing will be as quick, but the Ultima will lose in everyday situations. I still want one above almost anything else.
I'm not keen on the over styled ferrari or the slightly uninspiring Mclarren, but if I had £200k to spend my view on cars could well change, but I think the Noble will still be top of my list.
I'm not keen on the over styled ferrari or the slightly uninspiring Mclarren, but if I had £200k to spend my view on cars could well change, but I think the Noble will still be top of my list.
Why does everyone keep banging on about the 600+ bhp like that's somehow difficult or unique?! A mate of mine has a modified shelby mustang with 1200 bhp - did the texas mile at 200+ mph. Admittedly he's poured 40 or 50 grand into the engine alone but turbo charging a volvo v8 is not a big deal.
I took my 600bhp truck to a local tuner (bumberas in houston) and they offered to strap on a supercharger and give me 800bhp by the end of the week. As the truck was on leaf springs with zero (girly) driver aids, I politely declined.
Big power with forced induction is not difficult.
Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
From the autocar article I read, didn't the m600 break down? Had that been a TVR the car would have been laughed at and dismissed. I'd love to know who Noble have got pictures of to get all this praise for a pug ugly, over priced parts big of a car!
And FFS, stop mentioning the button from a jet. It was silly and cheesy two years ago, its plain embaressing now.
I took my 600bhp truck to a local tuner (bumberas in houston) and they offered to strap on a supercharger and give me 800bhp by the end of the week. As the truck was on leaf springs with zero (girly) driver aids, I politely declined.
Big power with forced induction is not difficult.
Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
From the autocar article I read, didn't the m600 break down? Had that been a TVR the car would have been laughed at and dismissed. I'd love to know who Noble have got pictures of to get all this praise for a pug ugly, over priced parts big of a car!
And FFS, stop mentioning the button from a jet. It was silly and cheesy two years ago, its plain embaressing now.
fatbutt said:
Why does everyone keep banging on about the 600+ bhp like that's somehow difficult or unique?! A mate of mine has a modified shelby mustang with 1200 bhp - did the texas mile at 200+ mph. Admittedly he's poured 40 or 50 grand into the engine alone but turbo charging a volvo v8 is not a big deal.
I took my 600bhp truck to a local tuner (bumberas in houston) and they offered to strap on a supercharger and give me 800bhp by the end of the week. As the truck was on leaf springs with zero (girly) driver aids, I politely declined.
Big power with forced induction is not difficult.
Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
From the autocar article I read, didn't the m600 break down? Had that been a TVR the car would have been laughed at and dismissed. I'd love to know who Noble have got pictures of to get all this praise for a pug ugly, over priced parts big of a car!
And FFS, stop mentioning the button from a jet. It was silly and cheesy two years ago, its plain embaressing now.
Couldn't agree more, loads of 600hp+ cars trawling around Sydney at the moment...I took my 600bhp truck to a local tuner (bumberas in houston) and they offered to strap on a supercharger and give me 800bhp by the end of the week. As the truck was on leaf springs with zero (girly) driver aids, I politely declined.
Big power with forced induction is not difficult.
Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
From the autocar article I read, didn't the m600 break down? Had that been a TVR the car would have been laughed at and dismissed. I'd love to know who Noble have got pictures of to get all this praise for a pug ugly, over priced parts big of a car!
And FFS, stop mentioning the button from a jet. It was silly and cheesy two years ago, its plain embaressing now.
fatbutt said:
Why does everyone keep banging on about the 600+ bhp like that's somehow difficult or unique?!
Big power with forced induction is not difficult.
Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
I've not seen one mention of how achieving 650bhp is difficult or unique? What many people have talked about is getting all of that power down in something that weighs almost nothing. Big power with forced induction is not difficult.
Add big power to light weight and you get a fast car.
Putting large amounts of power in a light car does not a fast car make! It is slightly more complicated than that. If I put 1000hp in a mini, I wouldn't imagine it would be that fast!
Corvette Z06 - 505bhp, 0-60 3.8 seconds, circa £50k ($40k-ish second hand)
Corvette ZR1 - 658bhp (IIRC), 0-60 3.2 seconds, circa £80k.
Both include all kinda of driving aids, air-con, cruise, sat-nav, HUD.
So I'd have a choice of 1 M600, or 2 ZR1's and enough money to holiday in fine style for the next 10 years?
Decisions, decisions...
Corvette ZR1 - 658bhp (IIRC), 0-60 3.2 seconds, circa £80k.
Both include all kinda of driving aids, air-con, cruise, sat-nav, HUD.
So I'd have a choice of 1 M600, or 2 ZR1's and enough money to holiday in fine style for the next 10 years?
Decisions, decisions...
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