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School boy

891 posts

80 months

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Had this article been about a RR Sport then I wouldn't be so enthusiastic. As it's a real RR, it's perfect.

vintageracer01

855 posts

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Garlick said:
britsportscars said:
A 4x4 Running on gas? I take it the Car Pool articles aren't all performance or fun-to-drive cars?

I'm sure it's fast in a straight line but wouldn't be my first choice to belt down a country lane... Maybe should have been posted on 4x4heads.com

smile
nono most PHers have a soft spot (or own/ have owned) for a Range Rover.

Great, classy cars and even better with a V8 up front. Very PH in our opinion, and a great compliment to any fleet.
YUP! Well spoken.

Mjpmark

729 posts

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Love our Range, we have had three vogues now, 2 x brand new and a second hand one.

Yep the rumours are true, ours is in for a repair every month under warranty, and each time they argue that it isnt covered.

Yes horrifically greedy, but the ride and sense of occasion just isnt to be compared, we tried and X5 (no comparison) the bentley just wasnt as comfortable nor did it get the looks the way our Range rover does.

Id recommend, but they certainly arent cheap to buy or run, anyone saying otherwise is trying to sell you one.


andy400

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Greg_D said:
Motorrad said:
LPG conversions aren't commonly seen on supercharged vehicles, I'd always thought it was too complex to bother with. Obviously not.

As for a Landcruiser, objectively it's a 'better' vehicle but let's face it, they have zero class unlike the RR.
Exactly, Land cruisers are driven by gyppos when they are dragging their sheds onto someone elses land, yuk.
Nope, you're thinking of Shoguns. I've never seen a whatever we're allowed to call 'em now that '' is banned in a Landcruiser. We have a camp near here, and my LC hasn't been nicked yet! smile

As for 'zero class', I prefer 'classless' hehe

Motorrad

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andy400 said:
As for 'zero class', I prefer 'classless' hehe
Same thing in my book. I'm a big fan of Landcruisers so perhaps that didn't come across the right way.

I still think a RR has more cachet however (obviously not a RR sport biggrin)

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ammark

25 posts

25 months

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Nice write up. Great looking motor, the right colour, wheels etc.

andy400

6,845 posts

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Motorrad said:
I still think a RR has more cachet however (obviously not a RR sport biggrin)
Agreed and agreed.

I am a big fan of the RR (not the Sport) and think they're lovely things.

Unfortunately I am also one of the aformentioned 'armchair experts' - I know a few people with Vogues and they've all had problems. Nothing huge, but I am a big fan of reliability - especially in things that cost a lot of money - so I don't think I'd like to own one.

A.J.M

3,300 posts

55 months

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Love it.

Who did the LPG conversion for the S/C? People on the LR forum area have talked about this and it seems that the engines need a bit of work( hardened valves i think) to run perfect on them.

Nice colour, original wheels and a decent colour interior. smile
Prefer black with black interior but i wouldnt turn yours down.

Agree with Garlick as well, you shouldnt have to explain.

hertfordshire1

22 posts

56 months

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I had a Range Rover Vogue SE Supercharge. One of the rare cars i actually miss. Used to drive it daily on a 100 mile commute to work. Was Epic on the motorway (even white vans vacated the fast lane when 3.5 tonne is fast approaching) and comfy and civilised in the city.

Great car.

Couldnt afford to run it at todays silly fuel prices and echo the relaibilty issues (which aren't helped by poor dealer support).

Will buy another one some day.

Morningside

16,785 posts

98 months

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Very Nice. A future classic.

Motorrad

3,885 posts

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andy400 said:
Unfortunately I am also one of the aformentioned 'armchair experts' - I know a few people with Vogues and they've all had problems.
Also an armchair commentator- I mentioned on another thread I live close to a LR specialist here in Houston- he advises a slush fund of $6K a yr to keep a RR on the road, citing air suspension failures and electrical system niggles as the main problems. His lot is full of newish looking but out of warranty RRs waiting for his loving attention.
He says he loves them because he has a constant stream of business. As I said on the other thread he drives a Jeep SRT-8 which tells you something about the relative reliability of the cars when even a specialist with access to 'free' labour and discounted parts won't run one.

I think RR ownership is something of a labour of love but given the ability of the vehicle one I can understand.

Zubenubi

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That's one beast I want. Asssuming I don't win the lottery, then a Landie V8 with LPG is the way to go. Just got to make sure they LPG kit has the additonal lubrication the LR V8's demand or it could be a nasty bang, which could be a little pricey to fix!!

School boy

891 posts

80 months

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A.J.M said:
Love it.

Who did the LPG conversion for the S/C? People on the LR forum area have talked about this and it seems that the engines need a bit of work( hardened valves i think) to run perfect on them...
Think it might be this lot, they seem to know what they're doing. Supposedly they created the orginal 4.6 and then sold the design to Land Rover.

http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/products/lpg-conver...

AMD1

282 posts

55 months

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HowMuchLonger said:
LHD said:
yes

Nothing better than a Range Rover. wink
2 Range Rovers?
1 x Range Rover V8 SC plus 1 x Aston Martin Vantage spin

bozmandb9

661 posts

49 months

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School boy said:
Think it might be this lot, they seem to know what they're doing. Supposedly they created the orginal 4.6 and then sold the design to Land Rover.

http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/products/lpg-conver...
Nope it was Euro LPG in London.

It was converted when I purchased it six weeks ago, still some slight issues with the fuel trim, but hoping they'll be resolved very shortly now.

Bish

772 posts

76 months

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School boy said:
Think it might be this lot, they seem to know what they're doing. Supposedly they created the orginal 4.6 and then sold the design to Land Rover.

http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/products/lpg-conver...
It was the 4.2 used in the LSE.

School boy

891 posts

80 months

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I stand corrected, twice. Think I'll give up posting, always get it wrong.

bozmandb9

661 posts

49 months

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School boy said:
I stand correctled, twice. Think I'll give up posting, always get it wrong.
I think JE refuse to convert S/C's due to potential problems with valve seat recession (though they're happy to sell the hardened heads if the worst does happen!).

But I took heart from a PH'er who's been running round in his converted S/C for three years, and 70k miles.

Plenty of Jaaags been done too with the same engine. I think it's just a question of: Must have fuel return line, must have flashlube, must have fuel trim correct, and good quality kit fitted well, and must be well maintained, plus starting with a good engine!


A.J.M

3,300 posts

55 months

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School boy said:
I stand corrected, twice. Think I'll give up posting, always get it wrong.
Dont worry. Think of it as knowledge improvement. smile Works for me.

What was the cost of the kit?

School boy

891 posts

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bozmandb9 said:
I think JE refuse to convert S/C's due to potential problems with valve seat recession (though they're happy to sell the hardened heads if the worst does happen!).

But I took heart from a PH'er who's been running round in his converted S/C for three years, and 70k miles.

Plenty of Jaaags been done too with the same engine. I think it's just a question of: Must have fuel return line, must have flashlube, must have fuel trim correct, and good quality kit fitted well, and must be well maintained, plus starting with a good engine!
Ok, I'll come out of posting retirement to reply to this.


It's interesting you say about Flash Lube, I've got a 09' Vauxhall Combo van that was LPG'd by Millbrook (of the testing ground fame) and it was done brand new as a Vauxhall approved option/factory fit but it doesn't have flash lube which I'm a bit worried about. Spoke to a vauxhall mechanic and he said he's seen a few burned valves. Might get it fitted when it's out of warranty.

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