RS 4.0 values

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APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Mermaid said:
If they are available for say £260k, and there are many who think they will go up £300k or more soon, why are these people not buying more of these cars.

Apolo1 seems to have plenty of money - has he squirrelled away a few already?
imv, for the RHD. there is a lot of money in Asia, I will test the market at 500k or very close later this year......they can only say no.....

agtlaw

6,680 posts

205 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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£182,036 inc vat. 5,034 miles. http://bit.ly/1fVC5e3


andymc

7,334 posts

206 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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APOLO1 said:
Mermaid said:
If they are available for say £260k, and there are many who think they will go up £300k or more soon, why are these people not buying more of these cars.

Apolo1 seems to have plenty of money - has he squirrelled away a few already?
imv, for the RHD. there is a lot of money in Asia, I will test the market at 500k or very close later this year......they can only say no.....
is that for one?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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agtlaw said:
£182,036 inc vat. 5,034 miles. http://bit.ly/1fVC5e3
The voice of reason.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Mermaid said:
The voice of reason.

No, the voice of a LHD car....do you understand the difference value wise to a LHD and RHD 4.0 RS, in particular one with del miles?.

Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 7th April 17:27

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

230 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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APOLO1 said:

No, the voice of a LHD car....do you understand the difference value wise to a LHD and RHD 4.0 RS, in particular one with del miles?.
Are you buying RHD cars?

WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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i've noticed people are shy about confessing how much they paid

Popolou

1,007 posts

206 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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APOLO1 said:
Mermaid said:
The voice of reason.

No, the voice of a LHD car....do you understand the difference value wise to a LHD and RHD 4.0 RS, in particular one with del miles?.

Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 7th April 17:27
There still seems to be a lot of disparity with owners expectations and what the market is allowing for if the last few sales are anything to go by.


PS: glad to see your post was reigned in from the original drafting. Seemed rather unwarranted thumbup

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

213 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Mermaid said:
agtlaw said:
£182,036 inc vat. 5,034 miles. http://bit.ly/1fVC5e3
The voice of reason.
Reason and indeed sanity, yes. However, the thing is, there are supposedly around 10-15 times as many 4 litre LHD cars as RHD. A third of the population of the planet lives in countries that have RHD... This might imply that market forces globally might inflate the value of UK specification cars rather more than left hookers...?

Edited by DiscoColin on Monday 7th April 18:03

hornbaek

3,670 posts

234 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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DiscoColin said:
Reason and indeed sanity, yes. However, the thing is, there are supposedly around 10-15 times as many 4 litre LHD cars as RHD. A third of the population of the planet lives in countries that have RHD... This might imply that market forces globally might inflate the value of UK specification cars rather more than left hookers...?

Edited by DiscoColin on Monday 7th April 18:03
Interesting theory - but that has never happened before with any classic car.

In the normal world of collectable cars, the most "original" car is always the country of origin spec. Furthermore every Porsche driving enthusiast knows, that a lhd Porsche is better suited for the track (as any other lhd car for that matter as 99% of all tracks are driven clockwise). LHD and RHD prices tend to level out over time. In very few cases the difference is merely what it costs to convert the car from led to lhd or vise versa. Historically collector values have been driven by the american market and their desire for lhd cars. As a result lhd UK cars such as Astons carry a premium over their rhd equivalent.

If somebody thinks that RHD 4.0 prices are more than 200% higher than LHD prices then I can only suggest that the above lhd cars are bargains in the longer term.

PS: I don't know anything so don't read this as fact - purely speculation.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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hornbaek said:
...If somebody thinks that RHD 4.0 prices are more than 200% higher than LHD prices then I can only suggest that the above lhd cars are bargains in the longer term.
yes

Some people with RHD cars are also probably talking up the market skywards.


WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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how much would a lh-rh conversion cost?

isaldiri

18,418 posts

167 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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DiscoColin said:
Reason and indeed sanity, yes. However, the thing is, there are supposedly around 10-15 times as many 4 litre LHD cars as RHD. A third of the population of the planet lives in countries that have RHD... This might imply that market forces globally might inflate the value of UK specification cars rather more than left hookers...?

Edited by DiscoColin on Monday 7th April 18:03
The population figure is a bit misleading as that includes India who by and large so far anyway have not been big importers of cars. As far as I'm aware the big importers of RHD cars from the UK have been HK/Singapore/Australia total sum of population is... not very much let's just say... Might of course just mean that when India gets in on the case Apolo1's numbers for the RHD 4.0 are going to be too conservative..! wink

Edited by isaldiri on Monday 7th April 19:59

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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isaldiri said:
. Might of course just mean that when India gets in on the case Apolo1's numbers for the RHD 4.0 are going to be too conservative..! wink
Porsche will re-commence production at those eye- watering levels wink

braddo

10,399 posts

187 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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isaldiri said:
The population figure is a bit misleading as that includes India who by and large so far anyway have not been big importers of cars. As far as I'm aware the big importers of RHD cars from the UK have been HK/Singapore/Australia total sum of population is... not very much let's just say... Might of course just mean that when India gets in on the case Apolo1's numbers for the RHD 4.0 are going to be too conservative..! wink
Japan?

pistolp

Original Poster:

1,719 posts

221 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Ultimately a pointless debate.

If you've got a RHD 4.0 then chances are you'd get a much bigger number for it than you would for a LHD one. That's just a fact. Same with 964 and 993 RS. I'm not talking up values, as I don't think there is a buyer on here at the levels where we are today. We all like a deal! But there are less erudite buyers out there who pay top money. If they don't reach the aspirations of current owners then no sale.....same with most 'in demand' cars at the moment.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Popolou said:
APOLO1 said:
Mermaid said:
The voice of reason.

No, the voice of a LHD car....do you understand the difference value wise to a LHD and RHD 4.0 RS, in particular one with del miles?.

Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 7th April 17:27
There still seems to be a lot of disparity with owners expectations and what the market is allowing for if the last few sales are anything to go by.


PS: glad to see your post was reigned in from the original drafting. Seemed rather unwarranted thumbup
I know sorry.....

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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PPPPPP said:
APOLO1 said:

No, the voice of a LHD car....do you understand the difference value wise to a LHD and RHD 4.0 RS, in particular one with del miles?.
Are you buying RHD cars?

yes but must have CCBDs

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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APOLO1 said:
Popolou said:
APOLO1 said:
Mermaid said:
The voice of reason.

No, the voice of a LHD car....do you understand the difference value wise to a LHD and RHD 4.0 RS, in particular one with del miles?.

Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 7th April 17:27
There still seems to be a lot of disparity with owners expectations and what the market is allowing for if the last few sales are anything to go by.


PS: glad to see your post was reigned in from the original drafting. Seemed rather unwarranted thumbup
I know sorry.....
I missed something smile

isaldiri

18,418 posts

167 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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braddo said:
Japan?
Er yes good point forgot about them....however as far as i am aware importing a lhd car to japan is nothing like as difficult as say HK or Singapore where I am fairly certain LHD cars are blanket not allowed to be road registered.