RS 4.0 values

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hopeydaze

301 posts

150 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Singapore; that's correct you cannot import a LHD car, also I think the car has to be less than 3 years old. Happy to be corrected on this as I may move there and I love my lowly 996 GT3 and would like to take it with me.
isaldiri said:
Er yes good point forgot about them....however as far as i am aware importing a lhd car to japan is nothing like as difficult as say HK or Singapore where I am fairly certain LHD cars are blanket not allowed to be road registered.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

194 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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isaldiri said:
Er yes good point forgot about them....however as far as i am aware importing a lhd car to japan is nothing like as difficult as say HK or Singapore where I am fairly certain LHD cars are blanket not allowed to be road registered.
HK they can ........

6750cc

1,357 posts

173 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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isaldiri said:
braddo said:
Japan?
Er yes good point forgot about them....however as far as i am aware importing a lhd car to japan is nothing like as difficult as say HK or Singapore where I am fairly certain LHD cars are blanket not allowed to be road registered.
Japanese market prefers LHD - I very rarely see a RHD Porsche or prestige car of any type.

isaldiri

18,580 posts

168 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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APOLO1 said:
HK they can ........
Really? Ok interesting. From what I understand it was very difficult to do so in lhd except for diplomatic plates or getting a mainland chinese plate which is not exactly easy either.

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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hornbaek said:
Furthermore every Porsche driving enthusiast knows, that a lhd Porsche is better suited for the track (as any other lhd car for that matter as 99% of all tracks are driven clockwise).
That's actually backwards, regarding track driving. RHD has historically been the default, hence why 99% of sports prototypes have been RHD. Just look into the cockpits of Porsches 917 and 962 to see this. Clockwise circuits have 360 degrees more right than left hand bend, so it is advantageous to put more weight on the right hand side of the car, and for the driver it gives the added benefit of better line of sight to the apex (at least in the days before massively intrusive A-pillars).

I always thought the preference for LHD 911s came from the less-compromised pedal layout, and in certain cases the option of a larger fuel tank.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

194 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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isaldiri said:
Really? Ok interesting. From what I understand it was very difficult to do so in lhd except for diplomatic plates or getting a mainland chinese plate which is not exactly easy either.

sorry I was referring to RHD, I have sold plenty over the years over there......

hornbaek

3,675 posts

235 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I always thought the preference for LHD 911s came from the less-compromised pedal layout, and in certain cases the option of a larger fuel tank.
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That for me is the decisive fact between lhd/rhd Porsches . Im 6:4 and I simply cannot find a comfortable driving position in a (manual) RHD 911 as there is no room to put the left foot when coming off the clutch. On the lhd car you have the wheel arch to rest your food when not in use and you can stem yourself back into the seat (if you are not wearing a harness) whilst on the rhd space is compromised due to the wide centre tunnel.

On tracks it goes both ways. Some drivers actually prefer to sit on the outside of the car turning into the apex with a better line of sight. I think the ideal position is in the middle !


Adam B

27,247 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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thegreenhell said:
That's actually backwards, regarding track driving. RHD has historically been the default, hence why 99% of sports prototypes have been RHD. Just look into the cockpits of Porsches 917 and 962 to see this. Clockwise circuits have 360 degrees more right than left hand bend, so it is advantageous to put more weight on the right hand side of the car, and for the driver it gives the added benefit of better line of sight to the apex (at least in the days before massively intrusive A-pillars).
thank you - that previous comment had me scratching my head somewhat

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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thegreenhell said:
RHD has historically been the default, hence why 99% of sports prototypes have been RHD. Just look into the cockpits of Porsches 917 and 962 to see this.
The 919 is LHD - as are GTE and Cup cars.

LHD > RHD.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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agtlaw said:
thegreenhell said:
RHD has historically been the default, hence why 99% of sports prototypes have been RHD. Just look into the cockpits of Porsches 917 and 962 to see this.
The 919 is LHD - as are GTE and Cup cars.

LHD > RHD.
All factory racing 911s are LHD as far as I am aware, mostly because they are asymmetric and designed to be LHD from the onset with RHD being an adaptation. However, all Porsche prototypes made before the VAG takeover (everything up to the RS Spyder P2 car) were RHD. Other prototypes that you might not expect to be RHD include the Peugeot 905 and the BMW LMR. When it comes to the 911, LHD > RHD by design of the road car chassis. When it comes to prototypes, RHD > LHD wink

Does that mean that the mistake with the 919 is fatal? Unlikely - Audi have managed to win there with LHD enough times. I heard somewhere (I don't recall where) that they actually worked out that over a lap of LeMans (which is of course a pretty long lap) the benefit of RHD was less than a fifth of a second per lap, but they reckon that something about the pit work was easier with the driver on that side of the car and that was the justification for swallowing it.

pistolp

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1,719 posts

222 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Sorry but two tenths a lap over 24h is not something I can imagine a race team would be willing to give up just like that!

Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Agreed. If you can be on the pace with 2-3/10 up your sleeve that's a great place to be in endurance racing.

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Classic Pistonheads page....several topics covered - yes you can, no you can't - LHD>RHD, RHD>LHD etc etc.

I'm more confused than when I sat down 5 minutes ago with my first cup of coffee of the mornin'!

Keep up the good work, I love it! smile

ChrisW.

6,299 posts

255 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Is South Africa RHD ?

There's traditionally been a sizeable market there ?

pistolp

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1,719 posts

222 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Picked up my 997.2 RS on Sat from a well known Porsche Independent, they told me of a 300k RHD 4.0 and a 250K LHD, although that only had 700 miles or thereabouts. Stunning prices.

Having driven my this weekend, there's no way I could sell it. It's just perfect.

TheDeadPrussian

855 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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pistolp said:
Picked up my 997.2 RS on Sat from a well known Porsche Independent
Congratulations on the purchase Jamie - how are you finding it?

pistolp

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1,719 posts

222 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Sorry wasn't concentrating.....997.1 RS!

TheDeadPrussian

855 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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pistolp said:
Sorry wasn't concentrating.....997.1 RS!
Good luck with the 997.2 RS search!

KevinBird

1,036 posts

207 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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pistolp said:
Picked up my 997.2 RS on Sat from a well known Porsche Independent, they told me of a 300k RHD 4.0 and a 250K LHD, although that only had 700 miles or thereabouts. Stunning prices.
Makes this look good value

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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KevinBird said:
pistolp said:
Picked up my 997.2 RS on Sat from a well known Porsche Independent, they told me of a 300k RHD 4.0 and a 250K LHD, although that only had 700 miles or thereabouts. Stunning prices.
Makes this look good value

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Such a divergence in prices quoted -confused