996 GT3 FS

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jackwood

2,613 posts

208 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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LaSource said:
Very well spotted.

I assumed the springs would affect the droop...but yes, she is not running OEM dampers...Nitron 3 way adjustables. Dual springs at each corner and the springs rates are approx double stiff. Plus the ride height is lower with a fair amount of rake. I'll try to measure the front height at some point tonight...optical view below..



Interestingly I have had very little issue with the ride height with respect to front splitter. I guess you become better at spotting an offending bump or dip.

Edited by LaSource on Friday 27th March 16:51
That looks fantastic! Those Nitrons must have a tiny amount travel. Probably not needed though if you're running such high spring rates!

Think your saving grace is that you are running the oem splitter and not a Cup splitter. It wouldn't clear the drain cover to get into the garage with that kind of ride height biggrin

jackwood

2,613 posts

208 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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DasChin said:
Is it a road car and occasional track?

If you are doing loads of track then change from OEM
A fresh set of OEM's work really quite well on track. I think it would take a well above average driver to extract any more lap time out of an aftermarket setup than a nice, fresh, well geo'd oem setup. Plus it will ride better on the road.

I certainly wouldn't bother with PSS10's. The standard damper is of equivalent quality, so all you are getting is the adjustability, which isn't needed with the OEM damper on my mind. You can get enough handling adjustment with the geo and ARB settings.

lemmingjames

7,455 posts

204 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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It will be mainly road with maybe 1/2 track days a year. Just wonder if the ohlins would be more b-road compliant than oem?!?!

LaSource

2,622 posts

208 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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jackwood said:
That looks fantastic! Those Nitrons must have a tiny amount travel. Probably not needed though if you're running such high spring rates!

Think your saving grace is that you are running the oem splitter and not a Cup splitter. It wouldn't clear the drain cover to get into the garage with that kind of ride height biggrin
Thanks.

I had thought that the cup splitter was the same size as oem apart from the side wraparound area...I was going to replace it with cup splitter if the need arose in the future. However if it is deeper too then that might make life harder.

The whole suspension and feel of the car is absolutely superb...so much feedback. If I get time I'll make a side by side video of a lap of Silverstone in a 997.2 RS and a 996 GT3. You can clearly see how the steering wheel is moving and providing feedback in the latter whereas the 997 is super steady and refined (which may be good for the road...but the 996 is so much better on track)


Slippydiff

14,812 posts

223 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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lemmingjames said:
It will be mainly road with maybe 1/2 track days a year. Just wonder if the ohlins would be more b-road compliant than oem?!?!
Unless you can find someone who really know their onions, not in my experience. The high (road) speed damping/wheel control will be leagues ahead of the standard dampers though.

Pure gold :



You can't buy the above dampers any more, you'll have to go with TTX's to get close to or better than these. You'll be looking at £7k built for TTX's.

A set of refurbed OE Bilsteins with new springs will give you the best ride over bumpy B roads.

Did someone mention LM's ......







Edited by Slippydiff on Saturday 28th March 09:20

LaSource

2,622 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Nice!
The LMs make the car look more squat...

GT03ROB

13,258 posts

221 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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LaSource said:
I had thought that the cup splitter was the same size as oem apart from the side wraparound area...I was going to replace it with cup splitter if the need arose in the future. However if it is deeper too then that might make life harder.
The splitter on my garage wall is a cup one. I'm fairly sure they are the same front depth, with as you say the only difference being the detail around the sides, where it is wider. The other difference being the price.

Mousem40

1,667 posts

217 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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GT03ROB said:
The splitter on my garage wall is a cup one. I'm fairly sure they are the same front depth, with as you say the only difference being the detail around the sides, where it is wider. The other difference being the price.
I think the cup ones protrude forward more and and are maybe 1cm longer (from memory having them both together)

DasChin

609 posts

216 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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lemmingjames said:
It will be mainly road with maybe 1/2 track days a year. Just wonder if the ohlins would be more b-road compliant than oem?!?!
I agree with jackwood that refurbed oem would be the way to go. Made a Bigg difference on mine as car felt more manageable on bumpy roads, less crashy.

Also had a fiddle with the ARBs as they were on full hard fr and rr. Took two off front and one off rear. Car felt a lot better on the road and not compromised on track. Its only a few bolts to go back...

The pss10 is going to be very similar to the oem set up so no point.

It all comes down to budget and application really.

Is the car in warranty still with porsche? Sometimes they can get snotty if u change the suspension.

Those ohlins are a piece of work and must be so much better as suspension. But then 7k is a lot of money.

KW is local to me in Kent and I know a few of the guys. The v3 is a good kit and more like a few £k.

Edited by DasChin on Saturday 28th March 09:39

jackwood

2,613 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Das, the Clubsports are the ones to get from KW. My two track buddies both run those on their 996's and they are leagues ahead of the V3. and don't appear to be too much more expensive. At least for what you are getting.

The Cup splitter definitely comes down lower and sticks further forward.

LaSource

2,622 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Ok, so measure the car this morning. The front of the OEM splitter is approx 80mm off the ground.
...in order to allow comparison with cup splitters, I also measured the lowest part of the wheel arch bodywork immediately in front of the front wheel - this was also approx 80mm

Cheburator mk2

2,980 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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jackwood said:
Das, the Clubsports are the ones to get from KW. My two track buddies both run those on their 996's and they are leagues ahead of the V3. and don't appear to be too much more expensive. At least for what you are getting.

The Cup splitter definitely comes down lower and sticks further forward.
You know there are the KW Club Sports and there are the Manthey KW Club Sports which run different spring rates and valving to cope with them. I think they are an extra £600 or so and only available from Manthey or their agents.

fioran0

2,410 posts

172 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Manthey runs 60 N/mm fronts versus the 40 N/mm fronts on the regular KW. Both use 170 N/mm rears.

DasChin

609 posts

216 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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jackwood said:
Das, the Clubsports are the ones to get from KW. My two track buddies both run those on their 996's and they are leagues ahead of the V3. and don't appear to be too much more expensive. At least for what you are getting.
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sorry those are the ones I meant dude ;-) I drove a BMW m3 CSL with them on and the ride/handling was sublime.

rallyeman

540 posts

175 months

jackwood

2,613 posts

208 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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3-way with remote-ish (?) reservoir.

squirejo

794 posts

243 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Jzm have a mk2 in stock with 7654 miles from new.

Mad March Taffy

508 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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There are a few 991 GT3s with them already!

cbgt3

253 posts

121 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I was down there yesterday having my 6.2 serviced, the showroom is Porsche paradise at the moment some truly stunning cars in stock.
Robert mentioned that there might be a 7000 mile one coming in to stock hopefully.
Out of all the cars in the showroom it would still be the 6.2 GT3 RS that I would have driven home if I won the lottery.

Edited by cbgt3 on Wednesday 1st April 20:02

abidr500

148 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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The red one? Is it still for sale ? It's come off their website. On for 135k !!!