996 GT3 FS

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keep it lit

3,388 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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DasChin said:
Slippydiff said:
Bloody hell that mk1 is a rocket ship. Look at it go down the straights!!

Bearing in mind the mk2 RS is what 485 bhp.
camera car is a 7.1 RS 415hp... and for the record a 7.2 RS is 445hp.


DasChin

609 posts

215 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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ah ok makes sense. still walks away though from the 997. amazing bit of kit.

well pedalled too and planted. the 997 looks all over the place trying to keep up.

jackwood

2,607 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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keep it lit said:
camera car is a 7.1 RS 415hp... and for the record a 7.2 RS is 445hp.
Great little vid. That 4.1 is ballistic! Nicely driven too. Loved the drift at the end :-) My kind of driving biggrin

keep it lit

3,388 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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jackwood said:
Great little vid. That 4.1 is ballistic! Nicely driven too. Loved the drift at the end :-) My kind of driving biggrin
At the time of this film being made the mk1 was running 3.9L smile

mischaRS

83 posts

123 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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So the Zanzibar 6GT3 at CMC is one and the same- roughly half the cost of a 7RS Gen 2 and much quicker!!
Bargain for someone, presume it will go sharpish.

Richie200

2,011 posts

208 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Mighty impressive 996 bow Seriously interested. Has anyone had a close inspection? Would such a large bore/stroke change have any detrimental effect in terms of reliability? Not sure if parting with my RS to make room for this, would be a wise move though??? Decisions decisions confused

lemmingjames

7,433 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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If your nearby, could you not go and see/test drive it and compare. If you like it, see what theyll give you for yours (unless they only do SOR) and take it from there?

Richie200

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208 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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lemmingjames said:
If your nearby, could you not go and see/test drive it and compare. If you like it, see what theyll give you for yours (unless they only do SOR) and take it from there?
A bit of water between here and Cambridge and also not much spare time on hand. Hence if someone has seen it, it may save the trip if it's a lemon.

tonto1

441 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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keep it lit

3,388 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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tonto1 said:
big till !

Scooty100

1,469 posts

115 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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keep it lit said:
big till !
Not a C16 car I gather but nonetheless 140k. Good buy I think

porschegeoff

213 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Will be interesting to see whether the 4.1 996.1 sells at that price but you're getting a lot more car for your money than with a 996RS though the RS will always be a better bet in terms of resale.

I have a 996.1 RHD CS (Speed Yellow)with a K400 fitted. Standard suspension, (geo set up by Parr for track), MK2 brakes, FSH, 50K miles. Hoping to keep it for a while yet but just wondering what is realistically currently worth. 60K?


ClarkPB

818 posts

199 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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porschegeoff said:
Will be interesting to see whether the 4.1 996.1 sells at that price but you're getting a lot more car for your money than with a 996RS though the RS will always be a better bet in terms of resale.

I have a 996.1 RHD CS (Speed Yellow)with a K400 fitted. Standard suspension, (geo set up by Parr for track), MK2 brakes, FSH, 50K miles. Hoping to keep it for a while yet but just wondering what is realistically currently worth. 60K?

£65/70k minimum in my opinion. I'd see the k400 as a bonus if I were looking for one personally.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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ClarkPB said:
porschegeoff said:
Will be interesting to see whether the 4.1 996.1 sells at that price but you're getting a lot more car for your money than with a 996RS though the RS will always be a better bet in terms of resale.

I have a 996.1 RHD CS (Speed Yellow)with a K400 fitted. Standard suspension, (geo set up by Parr for track), MK2 brakes, FSH, 50K miles. Hoping to keep it for a while yet but just wondering what is realistically currently worth. 60K?

£65/70k minimum in my opinion. I'd see the k400 as a bonus if I were looking for one personally.
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tonto1

441 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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keep it lit said:
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Current market - def' more.

lboase

120 posts

121 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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keep it lit said:
ClarkPB said:
porschegeoff said:
Will be interesting to see whether the 4.1 996.1 sells at that price but you're getting a lot more car for your money than with a 996RS though the RS will always be a better bet in terms of resale.

I have a 996.1 RHD CS (Speed Yellow)with a K400 fitted. Standard suspension, (geo set up by Parr for track), MK2 brakes, FSH, 50K miles. Hoping to keep it for a while yet but just wondering what is realistically currently worth. 60K?

£65/70k minimum in my opinion. I'd see the k400 as a bonus if I were looking for one personally.
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Speed yellow Clubsport. That's about as good as it gets

Mousem40

1,667 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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tonto1 said:
keep it lit said:
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Current market - def' more.
IMO the dilema with these cars with irreversible modifications is that although they might be great cars with hugely powerful engines, and great for track work. The more they're worth the less likely it will be that they get taken on track. So what's the point of the modifications then? Those modifications will then, after a price, reduce their value because as an investment item they're less original.

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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porschegeoff said:
Will be interesting to see whether the 4.1 996.1 sells at that price but you're getting a lot more car for your money than with a 996RS though the RS will always be a better bet in terms of resale.

I have a 996.1 RHD CS (Speed Yellow)with a K400 fitted. Standard suspension, (geo set up by Parr for track), MK2 brakes, FSH, 50K miles. Hoping to keep it for a while yet but just wondering what is realistically currently worth. 60K?
Try starting the price with an £8 and ending it with a 5k smile

Mousem40 said:
IMO the dilema with these cars with irreversible modifications is that although they might be great cars with hugely powerful engines, and great for track work. The more they're worth the less likely it will be that they get taken on track. So what's the point of the modifications then? Those modifications will then, after a price, reduce their value because as an investment item they're less original.

I know of the car through a third party, the car has wanted for nothing. The owner is fastidious.
The Zanzibar car at Cambridge Motor Co is about as extreme as you could, or would indeed want to go with a 996 GT3 engine conversion.
On the other hand, the Manthey K400 kit takes the Mk1 GT3 to another level.
The conversion is a complete exhaust system, Cup filter, MAF delete/Alpha N and carbon fibre cold air ducting (depending on whether or not the engine lid has been cut to facilitate fitment of the correct cold air ducting, will determine whether the conversion is completely reversible).

In fell swoop it increases the earlier cars Hp above the Mk2 and it imbues it with both an induction and exhaust note to die for, AND it makes the final 2k of the rev band completely manic. My K400 car felt as quick as a standard Mk2 996 GT3 RS, but with a far, far superior soundtrack.

The Manthey conversion is well regarded and comes from one of the premier German Porsche tuning specialists.
There's no reason to suspect it should impact negatively on a car from a resale/ value perspective.






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Cheburator mk2

2,973 posts

198 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Slippydiff said:

I know of the car through a third party, the car has wanted for nothing. The owner is fastidious.
The Zanzibar car at Cambridge Motor Co is about as extreme as you could, or would indeed want to go with a 996 GT3 engine conversion.
On the other hand, the Manthey K400 kit takes the Mk1 GT3 to another level.
The conversion is a complete exhaust system, Cup filter, MAF delete/Alpha N and carbon fibre cold air ducting (depending on whether or not the engine lid has been cut to facilitate fitment of the correct cold air ducting, will determine whether the conversion is completely reversible).

In fell swoop it increases the earlier cars Hp above the Mk2 and it imbues it with both an induction and exhaust note to die for, AND it makes the final 2k of the rev band completely manic. My K400 car felt as quick as a standard Mk2 996 GT3 RS, but with a far, far superior soundtrack.

The Manthey conversion is well regarded and comes from one of the premier German Porsche tuning specialists.
There's no reason to suspect it should impact negatively on a car from a resale/ value perspective.
Of course I am biased, but having driven a totally original 996.1 CS and then my 996.1 CS K400, there is no comparison. The way the Manthey just revs and revs, and then some more, with an ever increasing shove and scream is unattainable in any other 996, short of a Cup car.

As to Manthey's reputation - the fact that Porsche actually bought a majority stake and uses Manthey to run most of its racing program should be enough. Also, the fact that they have been the team to beat in the toughest endurance race - the N24hrs - using a 911 (996/7) for the last 10yrs should also offer enough comfort.

porschegeoff

213 posts

243 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Cheburator mk2 said:
Of course I am biased, but having driven a totally original 996.1 CS and then my 996.1 CS K400, there is no comparison. The way the Manthey just revs and revs, and then some more, with an ever increasing shove and scream is unattainable in any other 996, short of a Cup car.

As to Manthey's reputation - the fact that Porsche actually bought a majority stake and uses Manthey to run most of its racing program should be enough. Also, the fact that they have been the team to beat in the toughest endurance race - the N24hrs - using a 911 (996/7) for the last 10yrs should also offer enough comfort.
Agree totally. The K400 is a superb bit of kit and transformed the car even if it is eye wateringly expensive.

Haven't had mine on track since the K400 fitted. It sounds noticeable louder than the stock exhaust. Wonder what sort of db reading a K400 would produce?