996 GT3 FS

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Slippydiff

14,815 posts

223 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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porschegeoff said:
Agree totally. The K400 is a superb bit of kit and transformed the car even if it is eye wateringly expensive.

Haven't had mine on track since the K400 fitted. It sounds noticeable louder than the stock exhaust. Wonder what sort of db reading a K400 would produce?
106 ish (give or take) The K400 is probably the best mod you can do to a Mk1.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

167 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Slippydiff said:
106 ish (give or take) The K440 is probably the best mod you can do to a Mk1.
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Slippydiff

14,815 posts

223 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Evening Ade. Other engine mods are available ........ biggrin
I reckon a Mahle 3.8 with the Manthey K400 (like the Artic car I drove at JZM 2-3 years ago) would be the best compromise/easiest to build. Circa 420-425hp, lovely. smile

porschegeoff

213 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Slippydiff said:
Evening Ade. Other engine mods are available ........ biggrin
I reckon a Mahle 3.8 with the Manthey K400 (like the Artic car I drove at JZM 2-3 years ago) would be the best compromise/easiest to build. Circa 420-425hp, lovely. smile
How much for the Mahle 3.8 conversion?

Cheburator mk2

2,986 posts

199 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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porschegeoff said:
How much for the Mahle 3.8 conversion?
Was seeing around $6500 for the pistons, rings, wrist pins and cylinders. And then whatever it costs to actually strip it and re-assemble. But then if you are doing it, you will change a few bits and bobs while you are in there smile

chris_c201

255 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Speaking of speed yellow club sports with manthey mods....

My MK2 996 has previously had bonnet pins fitted, it does have the cup front bumper / ducting but I'm assuming it's just for aesthetics. Anyway, it's not really to my taste and I'm wondering from a resale perspective whether a) it would put folk off and b) if I got a reputable body shop to "remove" them and respray would that put people off as it's had paint work?

Realistically if I was getting the bonnet sprayed I'd likely get the front bumper done as well as it has a couple of stone chips that have got past the armor fend.

Not planning on selling anytime soon but would like to keep my investment safe....

Cheers,
Chris


jackal

11,248 posts

282 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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As much as it pains me, my SY mk1 is now up for grabs.

rallyeman

540 posts

175 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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jackal said:
As much as it pains me, my SY mk1 is now up for grabs.
Sorry to hear this, Richard.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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jackal said:
As much as it pains me, my SY mk1 is now up for grabs.
Thats gonna test the market!

Mousem40

1,667 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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The blue MKII with the sports seats is back on the market, was £60, then £65 now £68k

rallyeman

540 posts

175 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Mousem40 said:
The blue MKII with the sports seats is back on the market, was £60, then £65 now £68k
Maybe the last increase, is because, the car is now with a dealer.

Scooty100

1,469 posts

116 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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jackal said:
As much as it pains me, my SY mk1 is now up for grabs.
New project ? Why selling up

siheb

149 posts

185 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Richie200 said:
lemmingjames said:
If your nearby, could you not go and see/test drive it and compare. If you like it, see what theyll give you for yours (unless they only do SOR) and take it from there?
A bit of water between here and Cambridge and also not much spare time on hand. Hence if someone has seen it, it may save the trip if it's a lemon.
I went to see the car on Friday as I was interested in chopping my standard 6.2 in for it.

I have to say that the car is stunning. It's obviously seen some track action but overall it's fairly immaculate. The bodywork is stunning and the wheels are to die for. Overall the visual upgrades enhace it and make it look the real deal. The only downsides I can see are that it needs a new windscreen and I think it had a few stone chips on one of the side skirts - both easily rectifiable.

I didn't drive it but the history file that comes with it is fastidious - and most mechanical parts appear pretty much brand new.

The dealer set up was good too - most cars on Sor but some great kit in there, nothing ropey at all and they clearly know their stuff. Very happy for a potential purchaser to have an independent PPI done too.

Anyway the reason for sharing this is that after giving it the weekend to think over I have decided that I can't really justify changing mine for it (although they did value mine at £65-68k retail however, but quite a lot less to buy outright).

Overall I think the price is possibly testing the market but from what I saw I think it could be looked back on as a steal in years to come. Whoever gets it will have a cracker.
S


Edited by siheb on Monday 27th April 08:45

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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How much did they suggest you could swap into it or was it the £7k ticket difference?

siheb

149 posts

185 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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lemmingjames said:
How much did they suggest you could swap into it or was it the £7k ticket difference?
On a Sor basis yes, it would be the ticket price of mine less their sales fee (£2,250+vat fixed). But mine would need to sell first obviously so I presume that if someone came in with a deal for the Zanzibar one in the mean time I'd likely lose out.

On a outright purchase basis the difference is much greater as you would expect - their purchase offer started with a five...
S

Richie200

2,011 posts

209 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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siheb said:
Richie200 said:
lemmingjames said:
If your nearby, could you not go and see/test drive it and compare. If you like it, see what theyll give you for yours (unless they only do SOR) and take it from there?
A bit of water between here and Cambridge and also not much spare time on hand. Hence if someone has seen it, it may save the trip if it's a lemon.
I went to see the car on Friday as I was interested in chopping my standard 6.2 in for it.

I have to say that the car is stunning. It's obviously seen some track action but overall it's fairly immaculate. The bodywork is stunning and the wheels are to die for. Overall the visual upgrades enhace it and make it look the real deal. The only downsides I can see are that it needs a new windscreen and I think it had a few stone chips on one of the side skirts - both easily rectifiable.

I didn't drive it but the history file that comes with it is fastidious - and most mechanical parts appear pretty much brand new.

The dealer set up was good too - most cars on Sor but some great kit in there, nothing ropey at all and they clearly know their stuff. Very happy for a potential purchaser to have an independent PPI done too.

Anyway the reason for sharing this is that after giving it the weekend to think over I have decided that I can't really justify changing mine for it (although they did value mine at £65-68k retail however, but quite a lot less to buy outright).

Overall I think the price is possibly testing the market but from what I saw I think it could be looked back on as a steal in years to come. Whoever gets it will have a cracker.
S

On a outright purchase basis the difference is much greater as you would expect - their purchase offer started with a five...
Edited by siheb on Monday 27th April 08:45
Many thanks for the feedback siheb. Did you find out the mileage on the new lump? From the add I think it is date related (year 2000 fitted from memory)

Ref the bold above, I can see why your interest died away.
Problem I have is I have an Alpine tour and a few track sessions planned this year in my RS but at the same time they are selling for crazy prices now so swapping to this 996 will make me not worry so much about mileage/wear and tear.
I'm not sure what the current value of a 7.1RS is at the mo; there is only one for sale on PH; the orange one for £130K. Mine being LHD means in the UK about £10K less??? Then I have no idea how to factor in a barely run in 3.8l engine and around £100,000 of unique mods. To all intents and purposes it is now a cross between a 7.2RS and a 4.0l but a fair bit lighter and more mental. As there is no other to compare it to I have no idea of value confused





Slippydiff

14,815 posts

223 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Richie200 said:
Many thanks for the feedback siheb. Did you find out the mileage on the new lump? From the add I think it is date related (year 2000 fitted from memory)

Ref the bold above, I can see why your interest died away.
Problem I have is I have an Alpine tour and a few track sessions planned this year in my RS but at the same time they are selling for crazy prices now so swapping to this 996 will make me not worry so much about mileage/wear and tear.
I'm not sure what the current value of a 7.1RS is at the mo; there is only one for sale on PH; the orange one for £130K. Mine being LHD means in the UK about £10K less??? Then I have no idea how to factor in a barely run in 3.8l engine and around £100,000 of unique mods. To all intents and purposes it is now a cross between a 7.2RS and a 4.0l but a fair bit lighter and more mental. As there is no other to compare it to I have no idea of value confused
The water is muddy with this one smile Siheb, has seen the massive spec and the the invoices that accompany this car. A similar mileage standard car sold over the weekend for the same asking price of the Zanzibar car. That should tell you what the £100k worth of mods to your car are worth to a wider audience.
Yes, they'll be the occasional track day junkie who'll want a massively modified car, but pay a premium for the privilege ? I'm dubious. Your car will appeal to a very small demographic, but as their values rise, the market will get increasingly sniffy about modified cars.

If your car is LHD, I'd try advertising it in mainland Europe for a premium (not sure how much) over and above what the other LHD cars are selling for.

jackal

11,248 posts

282 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Scooty100 said:
jackal said:
As much as it pains me, my SY mk1 is now up for grabs.
New project ? Why selling up
Blame house prices in weybridge. Need about 300-400k more than i previously forecasted so various assets up for sale !


Scooty100

1,469 posts

116 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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jackal said:
Blame house prices in weybridge. Need about 300-400k more than i previously forecasted so various assets up for sale !
Gotcha good luck with the house purchase the gt3 will sell itself Jackal

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Slippydiff said:
The water is muddy with this one smile Siheb, has seen the massive spec and the the invoices that accompany this car. A similar mileage standard car sold over the weekend for the same asking price of the Zanzibar car. That should tell you what the £100k worth of mods to your car are worth to a wider audience.
Who sold that one?

Someone sold a modified Riv Blue 997.2 last year on 911uk, not sure they asking price but had alot of work done to it so maybe worth hunting down that thread?