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Precisely this - I'm not for a moment suggesting that a K400 equipped car isn't a better car. Objectively it is better in many areas. I think GT3s are going the way of classic 911s where people (and therefore dealers) are willing to pay up for originality, provenance and history. The market for modified cars, no matter how well executed, gets smaller as the cars become more collectible.
It is not particularly rational, but it is true.
It is not particularly rational, but it is true.
blackmamba said:
Precisely this - I'm not for a moment suggesting that a K400 equipped car isn't a better car. Objectively it is better in many areas. I think GT3s are going the way of classic 911s where people (and therefore dealers) are willing to pay up for originality, provenance and history. The market for modified cars, no matter how well executed, gets smaller as the cars become more collectible.
It is not particularly rational, but it is true.
Ok, so where does that leave my car - Olaf Manthey as the first owner, Michael Eschmann - Olaf's partner in Manthey Racing at the time, a reasonably successful Le Mans competitor and also a VLN Team owner of late as the second owner. 2000 MY CS in LHD, first ever K400, 30k from new, Manthey serviced and run, list of improvement work on the car in my garage. Yes, heavily modified, but the provenance does not get better than this, surely? It is not particularly rational, but it is true.
The problem is really, even if I sell it, what am I going to get, which will be even remotely close to it for similar money???
I think it sounds like a wonderful car and to the right buyer, a unique opportunity. For someone looking for a special car, that could be it.
I think there may be more buyers for a standard car though which will be reflected in the demand and possibly the price. I'm no expert and have no idea how one ought to price something like that other than compare to other K400 cars that have sold and even then yours sounds unique.
Any pictures?
I think there may be more buyers for a standard car though which will be reflected in the demand and possibly the price. I'm no expert and have no idea how one ought to price something like that other than compare to other K400 cars that have sold and even then yours sounds unique.
Any pictures?
Is this anyone on here?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
oh the 5k miler @ £95k has gone as well
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
oh the 5k miler @ £95k has gone as well
If anyone is in the market for a very tidy 996.2 GT3 in red with nomex buckets and tequipment cage, I will be advertising mine imminently.
It was registered in late 2005 (55 plate - the only one I have seen). Currently on 58,500 miles with full Porsche / Parr service history.
Send me a pm for further details.
It was registered in late 2005 (55 plate - the only one I have seen). Currently on 58,500 miles with full Porsche / Parr service history.
Send me a pm for further details.
I'm no expert of 996 GT3 values as I lost £10k on mine, but I do think enthusiasts are holding off until there's an adjustment in prices downwards. The collectors may/may not see the investment potential in the non-RS cars I don't know, but in the cold light of day when you look at what you are getting for your money I don't believe a 996 GT3 (CS or non-CS) represents good value at £65-£70K.
My 2p worth.
My 2p worth.
anonymous said:
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Bang on!Recently I drove a friend's very nice low mileage 997.1 4S Cabrio. As a daily driver it made my 996.1 CS look stupid money at £70k vs the £35k that the 997 is worth. However in terms of smiles per mile, exclusivity, ability, motorsport heritage, rarity, longevity is it worth double the money of the 997 - absolutely!
porschegeoff said:
What's the market like for GT3's at the moment?
I noticed a hell of a lot of 996 GT3's for sale over the winter months at quite strong prices that weren't moving.
100%. Was at JZM a month back and they said the 996 GT3 mkt had died a little although this time of year things may pick up a little. Im a fan and love the smaller dimensions compared to the newer cars but I think the GT4 has taken some 'market share' from the 996 GT3 at similar price pointsI noticed a hell of a lot of 996 GT3's for sale over the winter months at quite strong prices that weren't moving.
LaSource said:
I can't see where it shows the spec of his CR!LaSource said:
"At the unveiling of the 911 R at Geneva earlier in the year it was interesting talking to Porsche GT boss Andreas Preuninger and hearing him acknowledge the car was built to tempt those disillusioned with recent 911s back into the dealerships."Oh please. Tempt them back? And say what? Sorry, no more R, have a turbo cab instead?
Every time I read Preuninger's latest guru-like pronouncement, it gets my back up.
Cheburator mk2 said:
anonymous said:
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Bang on!Recently I drove a friend's very nice low mileage 997.1 4S Cabrio. As a daily driver it made my 996.1 CS look stupid money at £70k vs the £35k that the 997 is worth. However in terms of smiles per mile, exclusivity, ability, motorsport heritage, rarity, longevity is it worth double the money of the 997 - absolutely!
Edited by SET3 on Tuesday 19th April 22:10
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