New 2015 Carrera 991.2 - 2.9 Flat Six TURBOCHARGED!!!

New 2015 Carrera 991.2 - 2.9 Flat Six TURBOCHARGED!!!

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LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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jakesmith said:
I see where you're coming from, it depends on where you live and the sorts of roads you use though. If you lived in a fairly rural are with a load of B roads then you could enjoy the nuances of the GT3. If like me you live in a semi-rural / suburb & spend all your time on fast A roads and Mways, I don't want a hard ride or raspy induction note or a load of scaffolding. I want to be able to piss all over any hatchback or diesel car that tries to race me or that I decide to undertake, even if it's only for a few seconds. It's a joke that an A Class Merc, or any car with a Ford or VW badge on, is as fast as a 911 in normal day to day driving.

Your comment on the 650S is a bit silly in my opinion It's a masterpiece of technical engineering and design. I've never driven one or a 458 so it's hard for me to comment further, it sounds like you might have though?
I see your point about it depending on where you live, I also agree with cmoose though.

To be honest, tuned Scoobies & Evos have been around for what, 20yrs now? They have always been able to keep with a NA 911, not the point though is it? A 911 is just that, a 911, nothing else is wink

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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anonymous said:
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Not sure why any other car would requite more skill to drive fast though, if that driving is on the straight-ish roads that I described.
And if you didn't have the hot hatch pissing on issues in your cayman were you being a little infantile too or is it only me?

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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If only you could show me how to nail a H&T downshift from 5th to 4th by J9 of the M25. What a pro.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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You'll say you don't like NASCAR next!??
smile

Carl_Docklands

12,196 posts

262 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Yes Jake, you don't own a Manual GT3 and you are not a semi-pro driver? no other perspectives you have are valid on any subject, so please park it.

Remove any dreams that you may have of your own for owning a 997 Turbo or a 650S - you need some new ones as those cars are both inferior and thus null and void as a car purchasing decision from here-on-in.

No wait, you might as well just give up coming here and get yourself a bus pass. As long as its not a Turbo charged bus and has a manual box you will be just fine to ride in it.

And don't get caught passing anyone down the high-street in it, not even a bicycle rider, you need to sit there any appreciate the feed-back and rattle from the bus seat and engine, that way you know you are in a proper driving machine.

You can ride in this one:




But never in this one as it has a Turbo engine:

















Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 12th February 16:00

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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If you have an inferiority complex, I can well see that a 991 Turbo S might make you feel like nobody else has a bigger willy than you.

I have a large penis, so couldn't give a damn if a turbo hatchback is faster than an NA Porsche in the wrong gear on a motorway. I tend to see motorway driving as something to get through, rather than an opportunity to show that I am a real man.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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ORD said:
I have a large penis
CUSTARD

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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jakesmith said:
ORD said:
I have a large penis
CUSTARD
Well, not compared to a tin of custard.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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We get the message.

Carl_Docklands

12,196 posts

262 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Moose - Well I do have proper manual box on my 992 wish-list. Just for you.

I drive my turbo at 65MPH on the motorway, listening to Radio 2. For this reason I don't even have an opinion worth sharing on the hot hatch dispatch question. However, I await locking horns with an AMG 45 on the M25. The sprint from 11mph deep into the 30mph range will be a moment to savour.


jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Carl_Docklands said:
Moose - Well I do have proper manual box on my 992 wish-list. Just for you.

I drive my turbo at 65MPH on the motorway, listening to Radio 2. For this reason I don't even have an opinion worth sharing on the hot hatch dispatch question. However, I await locking horns with an AMG 45 on the M25. The sprint from 11mph deep into the 30mph range will be a moment to savour.
Have you got a Turbo? How dare you come on here! *REPORTED*

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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It's all got a bit silly now hasn't it - we all know you can often get comfortably up to 60 on some sections of the m25. Even faster in a Turbo than a GT3 or 318d etc

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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The few times that I have driven on the M25, it has reminded me of driving a 2CV back in the day - getting up to the speed limit is an event and often short-lived or dangerous!


Carl_Docklands

12,196 posts

262 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Speedlimit? I will need to keep a lookout for the signs next time, its all gets a bit blurry out there on the M25 when I 'drop foot' in 4th. You know these Turbo's they go so fast these days all I can see are flashes. Its a bit like being famous. I think that sometimes its all the drugs I did in the 90's.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


MagicRat

142 posts

112 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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The thing that makes me feel famous on the M25 is all the cameras.

Without wishing to veer too dangerously back on topic, I do hope those new turbo non-turbo 911s (what's the road sign for 'taxonomic minefield ahead'?) are nice. Porsche do have a pretty good record of not f'ing it up so here's hoping...

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Carl_Docklands said:
You can ride in this one:






But never in this one as it has a Turbo engine:

















Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 12th February 16:00
Actually a perfectly reasonable comparison. Which one would you rather have a go in?

Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 12th February 20:19


Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 12th February 20:19

MDahmen

6,932 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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anonymous said:
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drove my gt2 on uk country roads for the first time last weekend and it was reasonably entertaining, but my old 355 was loads more fun. in the germany on the autobahn the gt2 was a lot of fun though. for driving in the uk I'd much rather have a gt3, probably 996.1 as it has the least power. why you would want a high powered turbo engine in the uk is a bit of a mistery to me (at least for raod driving)

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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From a corporate perspective, Porsche are only following the herd. Everybody is going turbo for fallacious reasons, and so are they.

I expect them to be able to differentiate between the various 991.2 versions only by trim level and gimmicks. No reason for having a 2.7 litre engine and bigger ones too, other than for marketing reasons. Since they are turbocharged, displacement is more or less irrelevant.

Basically, there will be no reason at all to have the full fat "turbo" when you can have the Carrera 4.

Naturally aspirated engines enthusiasts may as well enjoy whatever cars are available now and look after them. I fear the next step will be Turbo+Hybrid and then Full-on electric with some pointless sound generators.

At that point, the reason d'etre for the 911 will be, what, exactly? Might as well buy a Tesla (which I'd have in a heartbeat, but not as a 911 surrogate).


ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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stuckmojo said:
From a corporate perspective, Porsche are only following the herd. Everybody is going turbo for fallacious reasons, and so are they.

I expect them to be able to differentiate between the various 991.2 versions only by trim level and gimmicks. No reason for having a 2.7 litre engine and bigger ones too, other than for marketing reasons. Since they are turbocharged, displacement is more or less irrelevant.

Basically, there will be no reason at all to have the full fat "turbo" when you can have the Carrera 4.

Naturally aspirated engines enthusiasts may as well enjoy whatever cars are available now and look after them. I fear the next step will be Turbo+Hybrid and then Full-on electric with some pointless sound generators.

At that point, the reason d'etre for the 911 will be, what, exactly? Might as well buy a Tesla (which I'd have in a heartbeat, but not as a 911 surrogate).
A fair point.

I don't see any role for cars like Porsches in the electric world, to be honest. The engine is the best thing about a Porsche, and all powerplants will be pretty much identical in the nearish future.

There will be fast heavy cars (which will be pretty much identical to each other) and fast light cars. Porsche has to decide whether to make luxury electric barges (which I think it will) or make electric sports cars (which it wont, because there is relatively little money in it).

Porsche is moving into making cars that are far more like Audis, Mercs, etc, because that is the inescapable future once powertrains are irrelevant.

Carl_Docklands

12,196 posts

262 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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mollytherocker said:


Actually a perfectly reasonable comparison. Which one would you rather have a go in?
Whichever one was co-developed by the Porsche Motorsport team.