New 2015 Carrera 991.2 - 2.9 Flat Six TURBOCHARGED!!!
Discussion
jakesmith said:
I see where you're coming from, it depends on where you live and the sorts of roads you use though. If you lived in a fairly rural are with a load of B roads then you could enjoy the nuances of the GT3. If like me you live in a semi-rural / suburb & spend all your time on fast A roads and Mways, I don't want a hard ride or raspy induction note or a load of scaffolding. I want to be able to piss all over any hatchback or diesel car that tries to race me or that I decide to undertake, even if it's only for a few seconds. It's a joke that an A Class Merc, or any car with a Ford or VW badge on, is as fast as a 911 in normal day to day driving.
Your comment on the 650S is a bit silly in my opinion It's a masterpiece of technical engineering and design. I've never driven one or a 458 so it's hard for me to comment further, it sounds like you might have though?
I see your point about it depending on where you live, I also agree with cmoose though.Your comment on the 650S is a bit silly in my opinion It's a masterpiece of technical engineering and design. I've never driven one or a 458 so it's hard for me to comment further, it sounds like you might have though?
To be honest, tuned Scoobies & Evos have been around for what, 20yrs now? They have always been able to keep with a NA 911, not the point though is it? A 911 is just that, a 911, nothing else is
anonymous said:
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Not sure why any other car would requite more skill to drive fast though, if that driving is on the straight-ish roads that I described. And if you didn't have the hot hatch pissing on issues in your cayman were you being a little infantile too or is it only me?
Yes Jake, you don't own a Manual GT3 and you are not a semi-pro driver? no other perspectives you have are valid on any subject, so please park it.
Remove any dreams that you may have of your own for owning a 997 Turbo or a 650S - you need some new ones as those cars are both inferior and thus null and void as a car purchasing decision from here-on-in.
No wait, you might as well just give up coming here and get yourself a bus pass. As long as its not a Turbo charged bus and has a manual box you will be just fine to ride in it.
And don't get caught passing anyone down the high-street in it, not even a bicycle rider, you need to sit there any appreciate the feed-back and rattle from the bus seat and engine, that way you know you are in a proper driving machine.
You can ride in this one:
But never in this one as it has a Turbo engine:
Remove any dreams that you may have of your own for owning a 997 Turbo or a 650S - you need some new ones as those cars are both inferior and thus null and void as a car purchasing decision from here-on-in.
No wait, you might as well just give up coming here and get yourself a bus pass. As long as its not a Turbo charged bus and has a manual box you will be just fine to ride in it.
And don't get caught passing anyone down the high-street in it, not even a bicycle rider, you need to sit there any appreciate the feed-back and rattle from the bus seat and engine, that way you know you are in a proper driving machine.
You can ride in this one:
But never in this one as it has a Turbo engine:
Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 12th February 16:00
If you have an inferiority complex, I can well see that a 991 Turbo S might make you feel like nobody else has a bigger willy than you.
I have a large penis, so couldn't give a damn if a turbo hatchback is faster than an NA Porsche in the wrong gear on a motorway. I tend to see motorway driving as something to get through, rather than an opportunity to show that I am a real man.
I have a large penis, so couldn't give a damn if a turbo hatchback is faster than an NA Porsche in the wrong gear on a motorway. I tend to see motorway driving as something to get through, rather than an opportunity to show that I am a real man.
Moose - Well I do have proper manual box on my 992 wish-list. Just for you.
I drive my turbo at 65MPH on the motorway, listening to Radio 2. For this reason I don't even have an opinion worth sharing on the hot hatch dispatch question. However, I await locking horns with an AMG 45 on the M25. The sprint from 11mph deep into the 30mph range will be a moment to savour.
Carl_Docklands said:
Moose - Well I do have proper manual box on my 992 wish-list. Just for you.
I drive my turbo at 65MPH on the motorway, listening to Radio 2. For this reason I don't even have an opinion worth sharing on the hot hatch dispatch question. However, I await locking horns with an AMG 45 on the M25. The sprint from 11mph deep into the 30mph range will be a moment to savour.
Have you got a Turbo? How dare you come on here! *REPORTED*I drive my turbo at 65MPH on the motorway, listening to Radio 2. For this reason I don't even have an opinion worth sharing on the hot hatch dispatch question. However, I await locking horns with an AMG 45 on the M25. The sprint from 11mph deep into the 30mph range will be a moment to savour.
Speedlimit? I will need to keep a lookout for the signs next time, its all gets a bit blurry out there on the M25 when I 'drop foot' in 4th. You know these Turbo's they go so fast these days all I can see are flashes. Its a bit like being famous. I think that sometimes its all the drugs I did in the 90's.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The thing that makes me feel famous on the M25 is all the cameras.
Without wishing to veer too dangerously back on topic, I do hope those new turbo non-turbo 911s (what's the road sign for 'taxonomic minefield ahead'?) are nice. Porsche do have a pretty good record of not f'ing it up so here's hoping...
Without wishing to veer too dangerously back on topic, I do hope those new turbo non-turbo 911s (what's the road sign for 'taxonomic minefield ahead'?) are nice. Porsche do have a pretty good record of not f'ing it up so here's hoping...
Carl_Docklands said:
You can ride in this one:
But never in this one as it has a Turbo engine:
Actually a perfectly reasonable comparison. Which one would you rather have a go in?But never in this one as it has a Turbo engine:
Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 12th February 16:00
Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 12th February 20:19
Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 12th February 20:19
anonymous said:
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drove my gt2 on uk country roads for the first time last weekend and it was reasonably entertaining, but my old 355 was loads more fun. in the germany on the autobahn the gt2 was a lot of fun though. for driving in the uk I'd much rather have a gt3, probably 996.1 as it has the least power. why you would want a high powered turbo engine in the uk is a bit of a mistery to me (at least for raod driving)From a corporate perspective, Porsche are only following the herd. Everybody is going turbo for fallacious reasons, and so are they.
I expect them to be able to differentiate between the various 991.2 versions only by trim level and gimmicks. No reason for having a 2.7 litre engine and bigger ones too, other than for marketing reasons. Since they are turbocharged, displacement is more or less irrelevant.
Basically, there will be no reason at all to have the full fat "turbo" when you can have the Carrera 4.
Naturally aspirated engines enthusiasts may as well enjoy whatever cars are available now and look after them. I fear the next step will be Turbo+Hybrid and then Full-on electric with some pointless sound generators.
At that point, the reason d'etre for the 911 will be, what, exactly? Might as well buy a Tesla (which I'd have in a heartbeat, but not as a 911 surrogate).
I expect them to be able to differentiate between the various 991.2 versions only by trim level and gimmicks. No reason for having a 2.7 litre engine and bigger ones too, other than for marketing reasons. Since they are turbocharged, displacement is more or less irrelevant.
Basically, there will be no reason at all to have the full fat "turbo" when you can have the Carrera 4.
Naturally aspirated engines enthusiasts may as well enjoy whatever cars are available now and look after them. I fear the next step will be Turbo+Hybrid and then Full-on electric with some pointless sound generators.
At that point, the reason d'etre for the 911 will be, what, exactly? Might as well buy a Tesla (which I'd have in a heartbeat, but not as a 911 surrogate).
stuckmojo said:
From a corporate perspective, Porsche are only following the herd. Everybody is going turbo for fallacious reasons, and so are they.
I expect them to be able to differentiate between the various 991.2 versions only by trim level and gimmicks. No reason for having a 2.7 litre engine and bigger ones too, other than for marketing reasons. Since they are turbocharged, displacement is more or less irrelevant.
Basically, there will be no reason at all to have the full fat "turbo" when you can have the Carrera 4.
Naturally aspirated engines enthusiasts may as well enjoy whatever cars are available now and look after them. I fear the next step will be Turbo+Hybrid and then Full-on electric with some pointless sound generators.
At that point, the reason d'etre for the 911 will be, what, exactly? Might as well buy a Tesla (which I'd have in a heartbeat, but not as a 911 surrogate).
A fair point.I expect them to be able to differentiate between the various 991.2 versions only by trim level and gimmicks. No reason for having a 2.7 litre engine and bigger ones too, other than for marketing reasons. Since they are turbocharged, displacement is more or less irrelevant.
Basically, there will be no reason at all to have the full fat "turbo" when you can have the Carrera 4.
Naturally aspirated engines enthusiasts may as well enjoy whatever cars are available now and look after them. I fear the next step will be Turbo+Hybrid and then Full-on electric with some pointless sound generators.
At that point, the reason d'etre for the 911 will be, what, exactly? Might as well buy a Tesla (which I'd have in a heartbeat, but not as a 911 surrogate).
I don't see any role for cars like Porsches in the electric world, to be honest. The engine is the best thing about a Porsche, and all powerplants will be pretty much identical in the nearish future.
There will be fast heavy cars (which will be pretty much identical to each other) and fast light cars. Porsche has to decide whether to make luxury electric barges (which I think it will) or make electric sports cars (which it wont, because there is relatively little money in it).
Porsche is moving into making cars that are far more like Audis, Mercs, etc, because that is the inescapable future once powertrains are irrelevant.
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