997 turbo

[Chris355]

Having considered 996 turbos I have now decided it has to be a 997 turbo gen 1 (pref a cab). Ive decided that it has got to be black and manual. I have seen a few for sale without sport chrono that seem to sit around for ages. Is SC that vital? Is it purely a resale issue or does it make a massive difference? What are people's thoughts on pccb, are they must have?

[s3nick]

SC can be retro fitted and yes it is worth it. PCCB is nice if you can afford to replace the discs.

[DKL]

PCCB was nice as it gave no brake dust but even one axle of pads came to £500 fitted.
I think I'd stick to steel.

[tjlees]

Chrono is a must. Pccb are nice to have since they don't rust and no brake dust. Just make sure they haven't been tracked on a regular basis since if there are hidden problems, it will be very expensive. Also make sure the tyres are changed carefully - too much chipping of the disks is game over and expensive. Other advantage is lack of fade if you really using the brakes a lot like ... Err... On the track They don't stop you any quicker IMHO but iirc the unsprung mass is less.

[Shewie]

When I was looking for a 997.1tt a few months ago I decided not to rule out cars that lacked SC as I knew the overboost function could be retrofitted and the stopwatch seemed like a gimmick which I could do without..

Because most people see it as essential (see previous posts) the price of non SC cars is generally that bit cheaper, so if you find the right car and feel you need it just get the sport button added by an OPC.

In fact I ended up buying a car without SC with the intention of getting it fitted, however coming from a 996 C4S the performance of the turbo felt properly quick and having an additional 50nm of torque wasn't high on the list of things I thought it needed!!

That said I will probably get it fitted in due course along with the short shift kit...

Would have liked PCCB's and just missed out on a car with them, but given the potential costs involved I'm happy enough without.

Mine has heated Adaptive Sports Seats which were a must have on my list and also extended leather on the centre console which helps lift the interior.

Good luck with the search

[Inverted]

I've recently started looking for 997 Turbo, thought it would be easy tbh but it's proving not so.
Manual, sports chrono, adaptive seats and ideally PCCB.....without major over revs. Most that come up seem to be tiptronic.

[Shewie]

I agree. There seem to be a lot of Tiptronic cars out there and good manual cars seem to sell quickly.

If you buy a manual there is always the risk of over revs. Mine is a manual and has ignitions in ranges 1-3 which I would prefer not to be there, but in the end it was a risk I was prepared to accept. So far so good!

[tjlees]

Same problem, so ended up going for 997 Pdk instead.

The Rev range, if acceptable risk, is a good way of knocking monies off since to get it onto the opc warranty you need a £500+ compression test.

[Chris355]

I'm not worried about rr1-3 data. However, I wouldn't buy one with data 4 or above.

I wouldn't buy tip, I would buy pdk but they are more than I want to spend.

[IMI A]

Not black but this one is worth a close look. He bought it from RSJ and then immediately wanted to sell it which is never a good sign but if its one of RSJs cars should hopefully be a goodun. http://911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=5537

[Chris355]

^^ thanks, but I'm unmoveable on the colour. It absolutely must be black.

[pistonuser]

IMI A said:

Not black but this one is worth a close look. He bought it from RSJ and then immediately wanted to sell it which is never a good sign but if its one of RSJs cars should hopefully be a goodun. http://911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=5537

Definately nothing wrong with it.....it's actually my car...i change cars very quickly.....

Thanks

[krallicious]

Chris355 said:

I'm not worried about rr1-3 data. However, I wouldn't buy one with data 4 or above.

I would just buy on condition and have a look through the service history. Mine has 1 ignition in RR4 and a few in the 1-3RR. These occured when the clutch was depressed which shouldn't even be possible because of the rev limiter according to my OPC. However, the car is pampered and the warrenty was increased for anouther year without a compression test.

[James44]

I wouldn't have bought one without SC, but now that I have it, I never use it.

It's fast enough without overboost and the suspension changes are back breaking unless you are on a really smooth A road. As it can be retro-fitted without the pointless dash wart, I wouldn't worry.

Took me a year to find my ideal manual car. All I wanted was sensible miles, not black silver or grey (pref cobalt) and adaptive seats.

J

[FeelingLucky]

pistonuser said:

Definately nothing wrong with it.....it's actually my car...i change cars very quickly.....

Thanks

Why did you feel the need to put

Sport Chrono (Needed on a Turbo)

?

Genuinely interested.

[Inverted]

pistonuser said:

Definately nothing wrong with it.....it's actually my car...i change cars very quickly.....

Thanks

You had my excited there...could have lived with the blue leather and the rest of the spec is the exact Im looking for. Then I realised it's a cab. Doh.

[Chris355]

krallicious said:

I would just buy on condition and have a look through the service history. Mine has 1 ignition in RR4 and a few in the 1-3RR. These occured when the clutch was depressed which shouldn't even be possible because of the rev limiter according to my OPC. However, the car is pampered and the warrenty was increased for anouther year without a compression test.

I think if less than 3 ignitions then it's thought to be an error and wouldn't worry me.

[Isysman]

James44 said:

I wouldn't have bought one without SC, but now that I have it, I never use it.

It's fast enough without overboost and the suspension changes are back breaking unless you are on a really smooth A road. As it can be retro-fitted without the pointless dash wart, I wouldn't worry.

Took me a year to find my ideal manual car. All I wanted was sensible miles, not black silver or grey (pref cobalt) and adaptive seats.

J

I'm the same, never use my overboost. However you know that after you turn on sport button you can press the PASM button again to turn it off and the sport button stays on?

[Adam B]

Isysman said:

I'm the same, never use my overboost. However you know that after you turn on sport button you can press the PASM button again to turn it off and the sport button stays on?

exactly what I do - SC is a must becasue who doesn't want a bit more boost? Hard to find a 997TT without it I found

adaptive seats are excellent too

[Koln-RS]

I drove a Gen 2 997 Turbo several times and would vouch for the pccbs.

Assuming it's not been tracked extensively, the discs should be good for 100,000 mls ++. I believe pads are a similar price to steels, but get changed slightly more often.