Cayman R Vs GT3

[Steve Rance]

London GT3 said:

I have a 2012 Cayman R PDK and a 996 GT3RS which I have owned since new. Both great cars. The following does not define which is the better or quicker car in all circumstances but the following Sprint results from Debden in September 2014 are interesting;



It was the same result in May.

Bill McKenna runs a highly modified 996GT3 and he is a multiple sprint championship winner. The Cayman R beat both Bill in his 996 GT3 and Brian Winstone in his GT3RS. My Cayman R is completely standard running on Kumho V70's. The two Cayman R times highlighted were both for my car - I shared it with a mate.

Now the circuit may suit the Cayman and the drivers may have had off days etc etc. But on that day in those circumstances, the Cayman R was quicker than two GT3's.

As I have said, I own a GT3RS as well and I think they are both absolutely fantastic but completely different types of cars.

Well done Old Boy!

[Mario149]

hondansx said:

Oh, and away from the driving the experience, the GT3 looks frigging awesome and the Cayman R looks like a bar of soap...

Totally subjective I know, but this^^ a lot. I could never own a 987 Cayman, the back just looks shocking to my eye, especially the lights.

[Mario149]

Alpinestars said:

Except you don't need to drive the GT3 at ten tenths to feel how special it is. It engages right from the off.

This is true and it really messes with my head when combined with the fact that I fall into both the "GT3 is somewhat pointless on the road" and the "gearing is too long for the road" camps as well

1) my 7.1 feels incredibly special even pootling, it just feels like a giant light go kart when you're sat in those bucket seats and the way it's very firm yet never crashes over the road is a thing of wonder to me.
2) stood still it looks awesome, far more special than a regular 997
3) peddling it quickly on the road is a joy as it seems to telegraph all the info to you and feels quite forgiving when it does let go like it was doing in the wet on a Wales trip this weekend - little shimmies at the rear coming out of fast corners were exciting rather than scary, and coming out of every junction sideways never gets old I had a mate in a 12C and another in a 360 who couldn't get anywhere near the same pace with the same confidence.
....yet....
4) I hate that the gearing is so long, 100mph or so in 3rd is just bonkers for a road car, I want to be able to rev out in at least 3 gears without losing my licence
5) notwithstanding (3), you have to be doing some serious speed to feel like you're scratching the surface of what it can do. Having had it on track, you realise just how far the limits of the car are away from road driving that has any semblance of legality/safety and it deflates you slightly.

[LaSource]

Mario149 said:

This is true and it really messes with my head when combined with the fact that I fall into both the "GT3 is somewhat pointless on the road" and the "gearing is too long for the road" camps as well

1) my 7.1 feels incredibly special even pootling, it just feels like a giant light go kart when you're sat in those bucket seats and the way it's very firm yet never crashes over the road is a thing of wonder to me.
2) stood still it looks awesome, far more special than a regular 997
3) peddling it quickly on the road is a joy as it seems to telegraph all the info to you and feels quite forgiving when it does let go like it was doing in the wet on a Wales trip this weekend - little shimmies at the rear coming out of fast corners were exciting rather than scary, and coming out of every junction sideways never gets old I had a mate in a 12C and another in a 360 who couldn't get anywhere near the same pace with the same confidence.
....yet....
4) I hate that the gearing is so long, 100mph or so in 3rd is just bonkers for a road car, I want to be able to rev out in at least 3 gears without losing my licence
5) notwithstanding (3), you have to be doing some serious speed to feel like you're scratching the surface of what it can do. Having had it on track, you realise just how far the limits of the car are away from road driving that has any semblance of legality/safety and it deflates you slightly.

Not sure that is specifically a GT3 thing. It's the same for all higher end sports/super cars.
I peaked out on my road limit driving in a Clio 16v...after that almost everything was getting too fast.
So slower cars are potentially better on the road.

The great thing about GT3s when compares to other high end brands you can experience their limits on track more often and more reliably. I've never seen the same Ferrari on track twice....I've not seen many Ferrari at all on track actually!