Looking for a 996 Turbo for about 20k, not much about! help
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Hi guys I know prices are rising etc and I'm 6 to 12 months late to try and pick up a 996 turbo for my budget but almost all the cars out there are for sale with dealers for 22 to 25 for reasonable tiptronics and 25 to 35 for low mile manuals etc. this being the case and having just sold my Cayenne GTS for a far sight less in my pocket than dealer retail prices people must be parting with their cars on trade ins and sale to dealers for in and under the 20k mark.
anyone any tips of forums out there etc where i can search as autotrader, ebay and pistonheads seem all the same really. alternative for me is to buy a 997 C2S but would much rather a 996 Turbo. is the only alternative to stump up the cash then and pay the going rate? I have a 911SC which I wanted to keep till the summer but may have to sell that if the budget bar has to be raised
anyone any tips of forums out there etc where i can search as autotrader, ebay and pistonheads seem all the same really. alternative for me is to buy a 997 C2S but would much rather a 996 Turbo. is the only alternative to stump up the cash then and pay the going rate? I have a 911SC which I wanted to keep till the summer but may have to sell that if the budget bar has to be raised
I bought my black 2004 manual in may 2013 and that was about the lowest point price wise for the 996 Turbo and even then 20k would only buy a cat D or very tatty tiptronic.
My advice would be to up your budget by 5-7k.Although these cars have an essentially bullet proof engine they still have lots of potential to bleach your temples overnight with other repair and maintenance issues..
My advice would be to up your budget by 5-7k.Although these cars have an essentially bullet proof engine they still have lots of potential to bleach your temples overnight with other repair and maintenance issues..
cheers mate. afraid I wouldn't be able to stretch that far and also don't see the value in 25 to 27. thats just a personal thing its the point at which i'd switch my attentions elsewhere. If I can't get one I'll wait, sell my 1980 911SC (which is mint) for the silly going market rate in a few months, chuck my 20k in the pot and buy a 997 Turbo. My only prob with that plan is after selling my GTS Cayenne, living in aberdeen with 911SC tucked in for winter the only transport in the house is a 53 plate n/a Forester (dog-mobile) and don't fancy driving that as my primary transport for next few months 
Might be worth saving a search for auction listings on ebay, and checking it regularly, anything going up for sale this month or next may be a chance. Last half decent one I saw sub 20k though was an early one with a (very) Nephrite green interior, and that was over a year ago. There was a Meridien silver one, but I think that was over 20k. Maybe keep an eye on BCA just in case, someone saw a 2005 "S" sell for sub 29k last week, which would probably put an earlier standard car within budget, with a fair degree of risk though and you'll probably have to wait forever for one to come up now that the world has heard 996 turbo prices are on the rise. Apart from that Cat D is your only choice, or get a Cayman & a set of winter tyres!
thanks guys, i think the 20k budget is not realistic at this stage. I've been looking to buy one since the summer but GTS took months to sell.
even 21/22 is prob unrealistic now.
there is one decent looking 2003 CatD on for 21k with low miles and one 2002 manual which isn't CatD with 95k on the clock for 20.5. besides that everything else is high enough. The CatD looks good but my worry is selling it on again, the attraction of the 996 Turbo right now is residuals and demand for when it is time to sell on. i might stretch to 22 but after that I'd be looking at other cars and waiting till May. first world problems and all that! appreciate the responses
even 21/22 is prob unrealistic now.
there is one decent looking 2003 CatD on for 21k with low miles and one 2002 manual which isn't CatD with 95k on the clock for 20.5. besides that everything else is high enough. The CatD looks good but my worry is selling it on again, the attraction of the 996 Turbo right now is residuals and demand for when it is time to sell on. i might stretch to 22 but after that I'd be looking at other cars and waiting till May. first world problems and all that! appreciate the responses
A year and a half ago I was looking to spend similar (up to 23k) on a car and I had plenty choice of 996 Turbos available, Now when I look, there's hardly any!
Bought an RS4 in the end, maybe I should have bought a 996T and made a couple of grand. Pretty sure we've missed the trough with regards to prices of these cars, only going up now.
Bought an RS4 in the end, maybe I should have bought a 996T and made a couple of grand. Pretty sure we've missed the trough with regards to prices of these cars, only going up now.
16plates said:
A year and a half ago I was looking to spend similar (up to 23k) on a car and I had plenty choice of 996 Turbos available, Now when I look, there's hardly any!
Bought an RS4 in the end, maybe I should have bought a 996T and made a couple of grand. Pretty sure we've missed the trough with regards to prices of these cars, only going up now.
yup think you're right. when i bought my GTS Cayenne the dealer had two 996Ts for 21 or 22k in stock and i paid 23k for my Cayenne. a year later my Cayenne fetched me 17.5k and those Turbos are worth more than they were then thats for sure! i wish that I knew what i know now.... when i was younger! as the song goes! at least i'm in good shape with my 911SC when i sell that on in the summer.Bought an RS4 in the end, maybe I should have bought a 996T and made a couple of grand. Pretty sure we've missed the trough with regards to prices of these cars, only going up now.
2 years back i set a budget of 22-23k and to find a manual in that price range which wasn't a dog proved next to impossible. Ended up raising my budget by 5k which at the time felt crazy but managed to find a stunning x50 in my favourite colour scheme. I'd suggest raising your budget or looking elsewhere, these cars aren't cheap and buying at the very bottom is false economy!
Depending on how critical you are on mileage and transmission.
Mine was bought last summer privately but inspected by Ken at Nine Excellence. It is a facelift, manual gearbox with 94k miles and good options that I like. The inspection brought up a number of to-do list but the owner was there with me so we settled on the previously negotiated price less the cost of repair. The car was put straight into Nine Excellence for the work and the total cost of repair and purchase price was less than 20k. The car is my daily driver and I have since put 8k miles in it and not needed anything done to it yet.
As such, if you don't mind doing some leg work, you can find a 996 Turbo for about 20k (Tip will obviously be less).
Mine was bought last summer privately but inspected by Ken at Nine Excellence. It is a facelift, manual gearbox with 94k miles and good options that I like. The inspection brought up a number of to-do list but the owner was there with me so we settled on the previously negotiated price less the cost of repair. The car was put straight into Nine Excellence for the work and the total cost of repair and purchase price was less than 20k. The car is my daily driver and I have since put 8k miles in it and not needed anything done to it yet.
As such, if you don't mind doing some leg work, you can find a 996 Turbo for about 20k (Tip will obviously be less).
thanks again guys for the input good to get first hand opinions. I have come close to one or two and have a good lead on at the moment for what seems a decent car in and around my budget will know more by the weekend.
astonishingly i realised just how much dealers are driving the prices up last night. before xmas there was a tip on ebay with split rim alloys, aero kit, 65k miles for 22k. i wanted it and was in touch with the guy who said he'd take 21. sale on my Cayenne fell through with the guy who was going to buy it so i could go no further, the listing came and went. sold my car xmas week and should have gotten in touch with the guy but xmas was hectic and i was travelling and his ad was off the net also etc so I said to myself soon as it was festivities were over i'd start making moves again on a 996T. Last weekend I thought to email him and turns out he'd just relisted the car and it sold immediately for the 21k he'd wanted for it. i was kicking myself for being to blaise about it and missed out on what looked like a really good car only needing minor repair to front bumper and wheel refurb according to the owner.
looking at the ads last night and that very car appeared online with a dealer, now selling at £28,995. that is a 8k markup. maybe the guy did sell too low, fair enough dealers need to make profits but just sounds mental to me that they've hiked the price so much and some guy is gonna pay it too. I'm kicking myself even more now that i missed that car. Maybe it just goes to show that cars are out there for my budget privately, just because they are sat on a dealers forecourt with 29k on the window doesn't mean you can't get the same car privately for 21k.
I should make an offer of 22 stating i know they paid 21 and a grand profit in a few days for washing a car ain't bad going!
astonishingly i realised just how much dealers are driving the prices up last night. before xmas there was a tip on ebay with split rim alloys, aero kit, 65k miles for 22k. i wanted it and was in touch with the guy who said he'd take 21. sale on my Cayenne fell through with the guy who was going to buy it so i could go no further, the listing came and went. sold my car xmas week and should have gotten in touch with the guy but xmas was hectic and i was travelling and his ad was off the net also etc so I said to myself soon as it was festivities were over i'd start making moves again on a 996T. Last weekend I thought to email him and turns out he'd just relisted the car and it sold immediately for the 21k he'd wanted for it. i was kicking myself for being to blaise about it and missed out on what looked like a really good car only needing minor repair to front bumper and wheel refurb according to the owner.
looking at the ads last night and that very car appeared online with a dealer, now selling at £28,995. that is a 8k markup. maybe the guy did sell too low, fair enough dealers need to make profits but just sounds mental to me that they've hiked the price so much and some guy is gonna pay it too. I'm kicking myself even more now that i missed that car. Maybe it just goes to show that cars are out there for my budget privately, just because they are sat on a dealers forecourt with 29k on the window doesn't mean you can't get the same car privately for 21k.
I should make an offer of 22 stating i know they paid 21 and a grand profit in a few days for washing a car ain't bad going!
Most occasions you will find good dealers need to do quite a bit before outing a 996tt. I sold mine to a dealer against the r8 and I know they would have had to do rads, condensers, exhaust hangers and bits and bobs. That's not cheap.
Have you tried autotrademail? Do you know any dealers? They will probably have access. It's where a lot of the trade-ins end up.
Have you tried autotrademail? Do you know any dealers? They will probably have access. It's where a lot of the trade-ins end up.
eskillington said:
thanks again guys for the input good to get first hand opinions. I have come close to one or two and have a good lead on at the moment for what seems a decent car in and around my budget will know more by the weekend.
astonishingly i realised just how much dealers are driving the prices up last night. before xmas there was a tip on ebay with split rim alloys, aero kit, 65k miles for 22k. i wanted it and was in touch with the guy who said he'd take 21. sale on my Cayenne fell through with the guy who was going to buy it so i could go no further, the listing came and went. sold my car xmas week and should have gotten in touch with the guy but xmas was hectic and i was travelling and his ad was off the net also etc so I said to myself soon as it was festivities were over i'd start making moves again on a 996T. Last weekend I thought to email him and turns out he'd just relisted the car and it sold immediately for the 21k he'd wanted for it. i was kicking myself for being to blaise about it and missed out on what looked like a really good car only needing minor repair to front bumper and wheel refurb according to the owner.
looking at the ads last night and that very car appeared online with a dealer, now selling at £28,995. that is a 8k markup. maybe the guy did sell too low, fair enough dealers need to make profits but just sounds mental to me that they've hiked the price so much and some guy is gonna pay it too. I'm kicking myself even more now that i missed that car. Maybe it just goes to show that cars are out there for my budget privately, just because they are sat on a dealers forecourt with 29k on the window doesn't mean you can't get the same car privately for 21k.
I should make an offer of 22 stating i know they paid 21 and a grand profit in a few days for washing a car ain't bad going!
It all depends on how much work a car needs. My car needed over £2k of work and I was lucky that the private seller was reasonable and the repair work was deducted off the negotiated purchase price (although I was reasonable that I only took £0.5k off the advertised price and we agreed upfront that I will pay for the inspection and remedy work will be taken off the negotiated price). As such, if you bought at £21k without inspection, it may end up to be £23-24k, or even as much as £28-29k, once all the work is done. It is easy to spend £7-8k on a 996 Turbo if you need turbos, long a/c pipes and condensers, rads, rusty rear brake lines which requires dropping the engine, clutch/pwr steering slave cylinder and actuators (which also requires the engine to be drop by half a foot), heat shields, renewing seized nuts and bolts in the exposed area of the rear bottom (remember the 996 has not rear engine tray to protect against stones/mud kicked up by the rear wheels), etc. Parts and labour (especially if you need to drop the engine) very quickly adds up ...astonishingly i realised just how much dealers are driving the prices up last night. before xmas there was a tip on ebay with split rim alloys, aero kit, 65k miles for 22k. i wanted it and was in touch with the guy who said he'd take 21. sale on my Cayenne fell through with the guy who was going to buy it so i could go no further, the listing came and went. sold my car xmas week and should have gotten in touch with the guy but xmas was hectic and i was travelling and his ad was off the net also etc so I said to myself soon as it was festivities were over i'd start making moves again on a 996T. Last weekend I thought to email him and turns out he'd just relisted the car and it sold immediately for the 21k he'd wanted for it. i was kicking myself for being to blaise about it and missed out on what looked like a really good car only needing minor repair to front bumper and wheel refurb according to the owner.
looking at the ads last night and that very car appeared online with a dealer, now selling at £28,995. that is a 8k markup. maybe the guy did sell too low, fair enough dealers need to make profits but just sounds mental to me that they've hiked the price so much and some guy is gonna pay it too. I'm kicking myself even more now that i missed that car. Maybe it just goes to show that cars are out there for my budget privately, just because they are sat on a dealers forecourt with 29k on the window doesn't mean you can't get the same car privately for 21k.
I should make an offer of 22 stating i know they paid 21 and a grand profit in a few days for washing a car ain't bad going!
Its a small world!, I assumed 996tt's were two a penny, after looking at autotrader, I stumbled across my old car which I traded in 4 years ago!!
Is it still for sale?:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I took all the mods off but left it mapped and the hoses on, hence why I know its mine. Its also got the larger calipers on the front which I had fitted. Theres a long post on my history if you need to know more about the car.
If its still for sale, well worth seeing, i spent a fortune on it and the dealer must of done all the work i described above to sell it on.
Also, I have checked AutotradeMail this afternoon, only 2S, 4S and 997tt's im afraid. But Ill keep looking for you.
Is it still for sale?:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I took all the mods off but left it mapped and the hoses on, hence why I know its mine. Its also got the larger calipers on the front which I had fitted. Theres a long post on my history if you need to know more about the car.
If its still for sale, well worth seeing, i spent a fortune on it and the dealer must of done all the work i described above to sell it on.
Also, I have checked AutotradeMail this afternoon, only 2S, 4S and 997tt's im afraid. But Ill keep looking for you.
I'm also in the market for a 996 manual Turbo. Been and looked at a few but the search continues. I think you are on a false economy buying a high mileage tiptronic for £20k. My budget is £30k but want manual and low miles as I think these are the ones that will appreciate. I'm struggling even at £30k to be honest!!! I suspect high milers (over £100k) and tiptronics won't appreciate by much.
Just out of interest. Anyone any thoughts on how high these might go? I'd be looking to keep mine 5-10years.
Just out of interest. Anyone any thoughts on how high these might go? I'd be looking to keep mine 5-10years.
JapanRed said:
I'm also in the market for a 996 manual Turbo. Been and looked at a few but the search continues. I think you are on a false economy buying a high mileage tiptronic for £20k. My budget is £30k but want manual and low miles as I think these are the ones that will appreciate. I'm struggling even at £30k to be honest!!! I suspect high milers (over £100k) and tiptronics won't appreciate by much.
Just out of interest. Anyone any thoughts on how high these might go? I'd be looking to keep mine 5-10years.
Can't see it to be honest, not by much anyway. Great car/all rounder, but classic??? Especially this late in the price increase life cycle. How far can prices climb in general? Interest rate recovery/increase will see money being invested elsewhere me thinks.Just out of interest. Anyone any thoughts on how high these might go? I'd be looking to keep mine 5-10years.
I'll probably be proved wrong though! Lol.
JapanRed said:
I'm also in the market for a 996 manual Turbo. Been and looked at a few but the search continues. I think you are on a false economy buying a high mileage tiptronic for £20k. My budget is £30k but want manual and low miles as I think these are the ones that will appreciate. I'm struggling even at £30k to be honest!!! I suspect high milers (over £100k) and tiptronics won't appreciate by much.
Just out of interest. Anyone any thoughts on how high these might go? I'd be looking to keep mine 5-10years.
I'd take a punt and say a low mileage manual bought for £30k now will be worth £40k in 5 years, but you would have spent more than £10k in maintenance in that time, so as an investment medium I'd say look elsewhere! But if you want a hilariously fast Porsche which you won't lose your shirt on, then find one quick!Just out of interest. Anyone any thoughts on how high these might go? I'd be looking to keep mine 5-10years.
(Edit to add: Yes I know some low milers are advertised for high 30's already, and will be early 40's by Easter at this rate!)
VonSenger said:
Its a small world!, I assumed 996tt's were two a penny, after looking at autotrader, I stumbled across my old car which I traded in 4 years ago!!
Is it still for sale?:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I took all the mods off but left it mapped and the hoses on, hence why I know its mine. Its also got the larger calipers on the front which I had fitted. Theres a long post on my history if you need to know more about the car.
If its still for sale, well worth seeing, i spent a fortune on it and the dealer must of done all the work i described above to sell it on.
Also, I have checked AutotradeMail this afternoon, only 2S, 4S and 997tt's im afraid. But Ill keep looking for you.
I went to see this car over xmas (long drive), was very nice (although needed a service, some paint work and the rear spoiler rams were leaking with dash lights on) but was unable to get an inspection arranged as the owner wanted a quick sale (even though they said they were happy for this to happen on the initial phone call). They sold it the next morning.Is it still for sale?:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I took all the mods off but left it mapped and the hoses on, hence why I know its mine. Its also got the larger calipers on the front which I had fitted. Theres a long post on my history if you need to know more about the car.
If its still for sale, well worth seeing, i spent a fortune on it and the dealer must of done all the work i described above to sell it on.
Also, I have checked AutotradeMail this afternoon, only 2S, 4S and 997tt's im afraid. But Ill keep looking for you.
Edited by RallyeJon on Friday 9th January 09:04
VonSenger said:
Its a small world!, I assumed 996tt's were two a penny, after looking at autotrader, I stumbled across my old car which I traded in 4 years ago!!
Is it still for sale?:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I took all the mods off but left it mapped and the hoses on, hence why I know its mine. Its also got the larger calipers on the front which I had fitted. Theres a long post on my history if you need to know more about the car.
If its still for sale, well worth seeing, i spent a fortune on it and the dealer must of done all the work i described above to sell it on.
Also, I have checked AutotradeMail this afternoon, only 2S, 4S and 997tt's im afraid. But Ill keep looking for you.
enquired about that car its already sold, not sure why he still has ads on all over the place bud its gone anyway. cheers for checking, I'm off to see one tomorrow, if i like the look of it i'll be having it inspected by a specialist and will take it from there.Is it still for sale?:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I took all the mods off but left it mapped and the hoses on, hence why I know its mine. Its also got the larger calipers on the front which I had fitted. Theres a long post on my history if you need to know more about the car.
If its still for sale, well worth seeing, i spent a fortune on it and the dealer must of done all the work i described above to sell it on.
Also, I have checked AutotradeMail this afternoon, only 2S, 4S and 997tt's im afraid. But Ill keep looking for you.
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