996 GT3.2 discs and pads
Discussion
I need new discs and pads. I have OEM discs and pagids currently, a combination that I have found very effective. I am therefore not particularly derirous to upgrade to Alcons and my car remains OEM in every way except geo.
I am however interested in any up to date views on other pads; PF etc - else I shall stick to what I know and like. Did I read somewhere that OEM discs can be bought direct from a manufacturer cheaper than the stock shelf at an OPC?
Thankyou!
I am however interested in any up to date views on other pads; PF etc - else I shall stick to what I know and like. Did I read somewhere that OEM discs can be bought direct from a manufacturer cheaper than the stock shelf at an OPC?
Thankyou!
lemmingjames said:
How much do you want to spend and what do you want to do is probably a better question for people to answer.
+1For road use OEMs are fine.
I use GiroDiscs and RS29s for track and find them superb for bite, feel, and consistency.
Others are equally keen on Alcon and RS29s
I've been using Zimmerman discs with RS29 front and RS14 rear pads for the past 2.5 years.
Discs are rediculously cheap from FVD in Germany and seem no different to genuine Porsche or Sebro discs.
http://www.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/996_GT3-140-28/-...
However have now swapped to PF08 pads all round and quite impressed so far.
Discs are rediculously cheap from FVD in Germany and seem no different to genuine Porsche or Sebro discs.
http://www.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/996_GT3-140-28/-...
However have now swapped to PF08 pads all round and quite impressed so far.
Thanks Jack. I also see that design 911 sell some OEM manufacturer discs - which I assume come from the same factory without Porsche stamped on them. And those too are priced so much like a consumable as to make alcons / PF / even Giro seem expensive for what may be marginal improvements.
Re budget. There isn't one, my only consideration being value for money and as I think several of us are finding the OEM / Pagid type setup, at these prices, is a very effective combination, including for track work.
Re budget. There isn't one, my only consideration being value for money and as I think several of us are finding the OEM / Pagid type setup, at these prices, is a very effective combination, including for track work.
Steve Rance said:
If you want to do more track work then Alcons/brembos are a must.
I get 2-3 track days out of a set of OEM fronts and over 15 out of a set of Brembos or Alcons.
I get 2-3 track days out of a set of OEM fronts and over 15 out of a set of Brembos or Alcons.
squirejo said:
And those too are priced so much like a consumable as to make alcons / PF / even Giro seem expensive for what may be marginal improvements.
I think it fair to say that's more than a "marginal" improvement.With brakes, as indeed with everything in life, you get what you pay for. But for the first few years of the car's life, there were limited aftermarket options, hence you paid crazy main dealer prices for OE discs which lasted 2-3 TD's or you went with the more expensive Alcons, Brembo's PFC's and got 5 times the life. Now OE discs are available cheaply and the likes of Girodisc exist, one's options are greater.
PorscheGT4 said:
when you are working out in price there seems not much in it, Alcon are 4x the price and last 4x longer.
I have seen others state 4x oem disks will out last 1 set brembo's/ALcon's
So it's not set in stone it seems regarding life.
If the Alcons are the same as the Brembo's, the initial purchase will include the mounting bells which are a considerable element of the cost. From then on only the discs themselves will need replacing. From my experience, if you are tracking the car regularly, the costs are almost half compared to running oem's I have seen others state 4x oem disks will out last 1 set brembo's/ALcon's
So it's not set in stone it seems regarding life.
braddo said:
Do Alcon users tend to have them all round or just on the front?
Either is fine. I always ran OEM rears as the bias on the 996 is a lot more forward than on subsequent GT3's and wear was never an issue. I also prefered to further increase the front bias which I personally preferSteve Rance said:
If the Alcons are the same as the Brembo's, the initial purchase will include the mounting bells which are a considerable element of the cost. From then on only the discs themselves will need replacing. From my experience, if you are tracking the car regularly, the costs are almost half compared to running oem's
you still should only use the bell say 3 times, so after 2 new disks it's normally regarded best to buy new bells again.not saying it's not the way to go, but when you work out costs for the normal punter who may do 2 track days a year say 70 miles on track x2
that sort or use does not warrant Alcons/Brembo's, unless you want the best and also it looks cool :-)
there is also the Porsche warranty to worry about if doing this to a 997 GT3/ GTS etc. And as we all know a lot of people do want the warranty it seems.
A CUP car uses a CUP disk and they throw it away after a race. And again you can buy CUP disks if one so wishes
but yes even buying new BElls every 3 sets running Alcons does seem cheaper and of course better performance.
Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 23 January 14:18
PorscheGT4 said:
you still should only use the bell say 3 times, so after 2 new disks it's normally regarded best to buy new bells again.
not saying it's not the way to go, but when you work out costs for the normal punter who may do 2 track days a year say 70 miles on track x2
that sort or use does not warrant Alcons/Brembo's, unless you want the best and also it looks cool :-)
there is also the Porsche warranty to worry about if doing this to a 997 GT3/ GTS etc. And as we all know a lot of people do want the warranty it seems.
A CUP car uses a CUP disk and they throw it away after a race. And again you can buy CUP disks if one so wishes
but yes even buying new BElls every 3 sets running Alcons does seem cheaper and of course better performance.
Yep agreed. Only needed if your regularly trackingnot saying it's not the way to go, but when you work out costs for the normal punter who may do 2 track days a year say 70 miles on track x2
that sort or use does not warrant Alcons/Brembo's, unless you want the best and also it looks cool :-)
there is also the Porsche warranty to worry about if doing this to a 997 GT3/ GTS etc. And as we all know a lot of people do want the warranty it seems.
A CUP car uses a CUP disk and they throw it away after a race. And again you can buy CUP disks if one so wishes
but yes even buying new BElls every 3 sets running Alcons does seem cheaper and of course better performance.
Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 23 January 14:18
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