Heel'n toe in a 997 GT3 RS

Heel'n toe in a 997 GT3 RS

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Slippydiff

14,850 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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LaSource said:
I seem to recall making you an offer to come check it out. Offer still stands - once it gets a bit warmer!
You did indeed sir ! And it's not been forgotten. As you said, when the weather improves we'll have to arrange a N.Wales run with Ade and others, by which time hopefully my latest acquisition should be fettled into something a bit more suited to road use smile

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Trev450 said:
ShakMan said:
Is it also true that the electronics in the 997 prevent you from using the brake and accelerator at the same time ?
It certainly does in a 987 so I can't see the 997 being any different. One way to find out ..............smile
You get a second or two before power is cut, so dab of the brake with the left foot is possible.

Steve Rance

5,447 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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LaSource said:
Nice clip.
I use a similar approach currently - though at less than half your foot speed smile plus I think my timing is a bit off - ie too much gap in between blip and clutch engage.
http://youtu.be/fVcRi7ZlDA0

When I tried it on a 997, the throttle pedal was not there smile
Will also try braking harder next time.
Try hitting the throttle harder. The revs in a GT3 flare off very quickly and if you don't give it plenty of throttle during HT you can get caught out by the time the clutch is re engaged. Basically just be a little more decisive. I think that will solve your problem. I hit the throttle quite hard unless it's a big stop. Then in some instances I intentially under Rev for a tad of engine braking help or to try and drop the nose a little quicker.

thegoose

8,075 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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braddo said:
Trev450 said:
ShakMan said:
Is it also true that the electronics in the 997 prevent you from using the brake and accelerator at the same time ?
It certainly does in a 987 so I can't see the 997 being any different. One way to find out ..............smile
You get a second or two before power is cut, so dab of the brake with the left foot is possible.
It's usually the case that the throttle is only cut if that is the first pedal of the two to be pressed. So if you're accelerating and hit the brake, the throttle will cut, but if you're braking you can then also hit the throttle.

Orangecurry

7,430 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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5517 said:
Perfect - obviously you have his book 'Principles of Race Racing' where he goes on about stabbing at the accelerator to get the most traction as soon as possible, and on that vid we see him doing it. cloud9

Trev450

6,325 posts

173 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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thegoose said:
braddo said:
Trev450 said:
ShakMan said:
Is it also true that the electronics in the 997 prevent you from using the brake and accelerator at the same time ?
It certainly does in a 987 so I can't see the 997 being any different. One way to find out ..............smile
You get a second or two before power is cut, so dab of the brake with the left foot is possible.
It's usually the case that the throttle is only cut if that is the first pedal of the two to be pressed. So if you're accelerating and hit the brake, the throttle will cut, but if you're braking you can then also hit the throttle.
Braddo - you do get a couple of seconds but while this maybe ok to unsettle the rear, if that's your desire, it certainly doesn't give you anywhere near enough time if you wish to trail brake.

thegoose - I shall have to try that. Always tried to do it the other way round.

Edited by Trev450 on Wednesday 28th January 11:12

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Interesting. smile Trail braking technique is not something I've read up on and I didn't realise there can be significant left foot braking in it.

When I think of left foot braking, I have in mind a light dab, say to help quell understeer in faster turns, or to very slightly slow the car (e.g. into Craner curves), but perhaps that is more applicable to front engined cars and not 911s?

Steve Rance

5,447 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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I would not consider LFB effective in a 911. Trailing in normally would be much more effective and LFB trail