997 GT3 Gen 1 Club sport - Anybody know this car ?

997 GT3 Gen 1 Club sport - Anybody know this car ?

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Zunfolge

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16 posts

109 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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First post and its the dreaded anybody know this car ..... Unforgivable and I apologies profusely and indefinitely !

I have been looking at GT3's for a long time and almost always miss out as I am too slow on the trigger. So before embarking on a painfully long journey again, does anybody know this car -there are not many clubsports around and even less for sale. Has anyone had any dealing with this dealer?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

fingers crossed

Peter Foster

mm450exc

564 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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85k for a gen1? Ouch! LHD not for you? At this point I would buy in Germany.

mm450exc

564 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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If this is what you want then move fast. Bring somebody who really knows to give the car a full check.

Heard a story of a GT3 which was sold as 100% ok and had one entire side of the body replaced.

cook3471

125 posts

125 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Top money that with no ceramics

kas750

77 posts

110 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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The car was priced for a shade under 80k for the first 24 hours and then went up to its new price.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Sorry I don't know the car but the dealer is very well established in our area.

If anyone needs the car inspecting then Cath Burrows is just round the corner, Cath inspects and works on quite a few GT3s.

http://porsche-repair-service.co.uk

Steve Rance

5,435 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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I looked for a long time for a 7.1 clubsport. Found mine in December, which I thought was the perfect month to buy a GT3. I arranged an inspection 24 hours after I'd seen the car and did a deal staight after. Not sure that I would have got the car if I hadnt have moved very quickly. The carbon buckets are very nice by the way. The folding ones not so.

Zunfolge

Original Poster:

16 posts

109 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Gents,

Thank you for all the responses. The car interests me for a few reasons really.

1.)Mileage--this means I can use it for 20K and then sell with no financial loss without counting on prices rising anymore . A car with 30k+ miles now will have circa 50K on when it comes time to sell. If I was buying to keep, it would not bother me but this more an asset transfer than dream car to keep forever.....

2.)Not many club sports about and certainly very few with this mileage.

3.)As far as inspections I would go to those I trust. Its condition and accident free and then---- suspension suspension suspension on these....10k refresh comes to mind anyone? smile

Plenty horror stories about gt3's seen a few 'mint' NOT----

Anyone know this particular vehicle ?

Thanks Pete



kas750

77 posts

110 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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The most important factor when buying a GT3 is its current condition and recent spend.
10k is not low miles if they were all on a track.

For that money I would want totally clear rev ranges and original paint with all usual consumables (brakes etc) in A1 condition....

Steve Rance

5,435 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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I agree. I looked at several low mileage cars that been poorly maintained, badly driven. I ended up buying a 35K mile clubsport. The car had original paint, was well maintained and the harness and extinguisher were still in thier boxes. Mileage is always important but I think that condition is absolutely key.


Zunfolge

Original Poster:

16 posts

109 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Absolutely its condition first and an open book about any previous work no matter how small. Perhaps I should have highlighted it more. A beautiful looking unregistered cat c is no good ,they exist and more so than anyone admits esp with this type of car. Track insurance policy on top of normal insurance and any off is covered and not registered !

Once the condition box is ticked ( and I expect at this price and mileage it is as it came from its loving German mother) there is suspension, engine and gearbox . A rev range report is naturally an important subject. What did we do before this data capture .... I am sure most older cars had over revs in the thousands ! smile

After a few disappointments and missed opportunities I think the way forward is to ask of prior knowledge on this forum and then go and inspect the car for visual condition. If this checks out (shut lines, paint ,interior ect) then make the next step and have it thoroughly inspected. An inspection for me has to entail placing it on a lift and reviewing the manufacture date codes stamped on the key elements like suspension ect, remove rear/front lights to check for minor damage and remove the wheel liners to look for panel anomalies and the list goes on...more than this is not normally possible. this is over and above the normal checks

These cars are very hard to find in mint condition. Mr Rance search is proof of this. I just want to avoid an unnecessary trip . Life is busy enough frown

Pete

Skyman

1,251 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Nice to have a two year OPC warranty too, depending on the car's age of course.

pete a

3,799 posts

183 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Mines not for sale but if it was there's no way I'd let you start taking the lights out on the off chance you might buy it, not because it's had an off, it's mint and I bought it from JZM so has good provenance, I just wouldn't want you pulling the car to pieces.

That being said I'd have no objections taking it to somewhere like JZM or Paragon to have a full on ramp inspection carried out.

drumzz

9 posts

122 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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you have mail.

Zunfolge

Original Poster:

16 posts

109 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Pete A.

I fully understand your concerns but place the shoe on the other foot ,80k cash is nothing to be sniffed at. I have not asked to strip your car, just stated that to really see any car properly a thorough inspection is required (by a third party) these cars are extremely hard to find unblemished and such an inspection does require a certain amount of investigation. I have seen 8 ( not all cs) in the last 12 months 3 where lovely but sold, 3 rather average and 2 certainly avoidable.

Just trying to avoid a long trip.

Nobody know this car ? Looks like a trip may be in order.

Peter

ro51ter

4,395 posts

196 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Before wasting time traveling up check the garages history.

pete a

3,799 posts

183 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Zunfolge said:
Pete A.

I fully understand your concerns but place the shoe on the other foot ,80k cash is nothing to be sniffed at. I have not asked to strip your car, just stated that to really see any car properly a thorough inspection is required (by a third party) these cars are extremely hard to find unblemished and such an inspection does require a certain amount of investigation. I have seen 8 ( not all cs) in the last 12 months 3 where lovely but sold, 3 rather average and 2 certainly avoidable.

Just trying to avoid a long trip.

Nobody know this car ? Looks like a trip may be in order.

Peter
I totally understand it's a lot of money, and I know you don't want to take my car apartsmile and agree an inspection is prudent.
Please don't take my comment as being obtuse, it wasn't meant that wayhippy
I just personally wouldn't want things taking apart as they then have to be put back together, who's to say they all go back as perfect as they started?

m33ufo

4,959 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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There is absolutely no way in the world I'd let a potential purchaser lose with a screwdriver on my car!!


ClarkPB

818 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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m33ufo said:
There is absolutely no way in the world I'd let a potential purchaser lose with a screwdriver on my car!!
To be fair, you don't need a screw driver for the front headlight units biggrin

m33ufo

4,959 posts

230 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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ClarkPB said:
m33ufo said:
There is absolutely no way in the world I'd let a potential purchaser lose with a screwdriver on my car!!
To be fair, you don't need a screw driver for the front headlight units biggrin
Good point! He can keep his "tool" away from my dynamic cornering lights!