Looking for a 997 GTS, but with leather and studs.

Looking for a 997 GTS, but with leather and studs.

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nigestar

67 posts

111 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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c4sman said:
Eleven said:
Better with the Carrera Sports? Difficult to compare at a different angle, but I think it is.

Carrera Sports look good but are the heaviest 997 wheel which for me doesn't sit well with GTS ethos
personally I love guards red with the black CLs but in the end went for all black on GTS - less in your face look that doesn't stand out in the car park so much. Both these cars look great. If you cannot live with CLs then I guess the compromise is one like this black one @ paragon. You won't find that many for sale.

Eleven

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26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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c4sman said:
Carrera Sports look good but are the heaviest 997 wheel which for me doesn't sit well with GTS ethos
How much does the GTS weigh compared to a C2S then?

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Eleven said:
hondansx said:
That looks great, other than the aforementioned weedy wheel offset.



nono
Better with the Carrera Sports? Difficult to compare at a different angle, but I think it is.

The advantage is that, with 5 studs, you can do something about it (Tequipment or aftermarket spacers), but with CLs you are stuck with what you've got!

I'm just fussy because having changed the wheels (with a lower offset) on mine, whenever i see a standard car the difference is really noticeable!

Ape50

78 posts

151 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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I've sat in the black one mentioned here and the interior is a bit tatty. Just saying...

Eleven

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26,271 posts

222 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Ape50 said:
I've sat in the black one mentioned here and the interior is a bit tatty. Just saying...
That's interesting, thanks. What was tatty specifically?

Ape50

78 posts

151 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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The car has been well prepped but there's a limit to what you can do with an interior. Nothing major but too much 'wear and tear' for a car of that age - especially given the price(IMO)

Eleven

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Friday 27th March 2015
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Ape50 said:
The car has been well prepped but there's a limit to what you can do with an interior. Nothing major but too much 'wear and tear' for a car of that age - especially given the price(IMO)
Interesting. The steering wheel is a lot shiny for a 26k mile car. I am too far away from it to go see what is probably a waste of time. However a family member lives nearby and I may get him to call in.

I've been to see another car today, at a dealership, that was blatantly a long way from its description. I am starting to wonder whether this is going to be more of a PITA than I can be bothered with.




mm450exc

564 posts

178 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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CLs should not be a showstopper. You can always do a conversion to 5 lug. I did on my 997.2 GT3.

Edited by mm450exc on Friday 27th March 16:38

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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How many miles did the black one have then? My Gen 2 C4S has done just over 50,000 miles and the leather looks new! Yet my Gen 1 GT3's leather looks a bit like a taxi that's done 200,000 miles (it's done 30,000).

Eleven

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26,271 posts

222 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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hondansx said:
How many miles did the black one have then? My Gen 2 C4S has done just over 50,000 miles and the leather looks new! Yet my Gen 1 GT3's leather looks a bit like a taxi that's done 200,000 miles (it's done 30,000).
26k on the black one.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Eleven said:
So, the odd track day is OK but regular track use will require a F1 type budget?
Not really an F1 budget, but essentially yes. If you are only doing a couple of days a year then it will take a very long time to be relevant and isn't really worth worrying about. If you are doing something more like a dozen a year then obviously you are going to have to give it some consideration.


DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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hondansx said:
The advantage is that, with 5 studs, you can do something about it (Tequipment or aftermarket spacers), but with CLs you are stuck with what you've got!
Yes and no. You can use OE or aftermarket (OZ, BBS and quite a few others) 997.2 GT3RS wheels on a CL GTS (with slightly fruitier offsets and wider widths) if you like. Expensive compared with spacers, but some of the options do actually look gob-smackingly awesome.

crystalmethod

1,156 posts

179 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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DiscoColin said:
hondansx said:
The advantage is that, with 5 studs, you can do something about it (Tequipment or aftermarket spacers), but with CLs you are stuck with what you've got!
Yes and no. You can use OE or aftermarket (OZ, BBS and quite a few others) 997.2 GT3RS wheels on a CL GTS (with slightly fruitier offsets and wider widths) if you like. Expensive compared with spacers, but some of the options do actually look gob-smackingly awesome.
The ride height of my GTS (which has PASM) has always bothered me, and now you've made me see the need for spacers, except that I assume they don't exist for CLs. Are you saying there may be scope for an OPC solution? As I'd really like to sort both but keep the warranty. Apologies if this is a stupid question!

Eleven

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Saturday 28th March 2015
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Well, PH wisdom has prevailed. Having considered the comments here, I agree that the CLs and alcantara are part of what the GTS is about and that probably outweighs my preference for studs and leather. I have therefore bought one with CLs and alcantara.


crystalmethod

1,156 posts

179 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Eleven said:
Well, PH wisdom has prevailed. Having considered the comments here, I agree that the CLs and alcantara are part of what the GTS is about and that probably outweighs my preference for studs and leather. I have therefore bought one with CLs and alcantara.
Congratulations!

Let's have a look at the pictures then.

Eleven

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26,271 posts

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Saturday 28th March 2015
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crystalmethod said:
Eleven said:
Well, PH wisdom has prevailed. Having considered the comments here, I agree that the CLs and alcantara are part of what the GTS is about and that probably outweighs my preference for studs and leather. I have therefore bought one with CLs and alcantara.
Congratulations!

Let's have a look at the pictures then.
You'll need to wait until it arrives. The dealer's snaps are awful.

Shiverman

891 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Eleven said:
Well, PH wisdom has prevailed. Having considered the comments here, I agree that the CLs and alcantara are part of what the GTS is about and that probably outweighs my preference for studs and leather. I have therefore bought one with CLs and alcantara.
Hey Congratulations Eleven. What spec and colour did you get and when's pick up? Pics are required. - i hope you enjoy it as from my couple of hours in one they are awesome.

Eleven

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Saturday 28th March 2015
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Shiverman said:
Eleven said:
Well, PH wisdom has prevailed. Having considered the comments here, I agree that the CLs and alcantara are part of what the GTS is about and that probably outweighs my preference for studs and leather. I have therefore bought one with CLs and alcantara.
Hey Congratulations Eleven. What spec and colour did you get and when's pick up? Pics are required. - i hope you enjoy it as from my couple of hours in one they are awesome.
Red one.

Modest spec, but nothing missing that I really need nor anything that offends me.

Should have it Wednesday I hope.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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crystalmethod said:
The ride height of my GTS (which has PASM) has always bothered me, and now you've made me see the need for spacers, except that I assume they don't exist for CLs. Are you saying there may be scope for an OPC solution? As I'd really like to sort both but keep the warranty. Apologies if this is a stupid question!
You absolutely could not use spacers on centre locks (the nature of a nut precludes the option of longer bolts to permit an adequate amount of thread engagement if spacers were in play). However, my point was that you can use different wheels to push the wheels into the arches - 997.2 GT3RS wheels will look like they had about 7-8mm of spacers compared to the Spyder wheels due to the increased width and different offsets. OZ Ultraleggeras would provide a cheaper aftermarket alternative to achieve the aesthetic if you were happy to use non OE wheels (you would have to swap the original ones back on at warranty renewal time though).

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Eleven said:
Red one.

Modest spec, but nothing missing that I really need nor anything that offends me.

Should have it Wednesday I hope.
Most excellent - congrats. thumbup