MSA list 1a/1b for Porsche 996 GT3

MSA list 1a/1b for Porsche 996 GT3

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Harris_I

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3,228 posts

259 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Racers, what are you currently using from the MSA list? It's been 5 years since I last raced the 996 and back then if the series didn't allow for slicks, then Michelin Cups were the default choice.

Is the Cup 2 now the new default? What else should I be considering? (Happy to consider left-field choices - I think Ade uses Federal 595 RSR - is performance similar to Cups?).

Ideally I'd prefer not to carry 2 sets everywhere so would like a tyre that gets me round a wet track as well.


majordad

3,601 posts

197 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I use Cup 2 s now, previously cups. IMHO you will find you need two sets as any 1b tyre will not have sufficient thread after dry use if it becomes a wet race later. New Cup 2s are ok in the wet, when they ( or any similiar tyre ) wear they are not.
And if you use 1 A or other tyres with deeper thread they will be considerably slower in the dry.

Harris_I

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3,228 posts

259 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I should have said, list 1a is not worth considering.

I suppose I can hang onto my Yoko AD08s (non-R) for wet races if the dry tyres don't have sufficient tread depth. They are adequate for wet track and would probably be better than used Cup 2s.

Any other club racers not on Cup 2s?


keep it lit

3,388 posts

167 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Hey Irfan..

Federal 595 are ok and cheap smile but only available up to 285 section... in the current market I'd go for Cup1's for dry and Cup2's for wet.. please let me know when your next planning out on track wink

Harris_I

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3,228 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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keep it lit said:
Hey Irfan..

Federal 595 are ok and cheap smile but only available up to 285 section... in the current market I'd go for Cup1's for dry and Cup2's for wet.. please let me know when your next planning out on track wink
Ah, I wasn't aware that the original Cups were better than Cup 2s in the dry.

Just run the engine in and planning to be run for the first time in anger at the CSCC race at Brands on 31 May. My first ever look at the circuit will be quali and I will be hypersensitive to every rattle and clonk, so I suspect I will be circulating at the back (best get the excuses in early, eh)....


majordad

3,601 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Cup 2 s are better wet and dry than Cup s. Seems there is a sell off of remaining Cup 1 stock now by dealers. Good luck at Brands.

fioran0

2,410 posts

172 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Pirelli Trofeo R are on list 1b right?
These are faster than MPSC2 tyres by a good bit so you may want to give these a try if you were thinking of running cups.

Harris_I

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3,228 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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fioran0 said:
Pirelli Trofeo R are on list 1b right?
These are faster than MPSC2 tyres by a good bit so you may want to give these a try if you were thinking of running cups.
Thanks Neil. Hadn't considered the Pirelli. The non-R is on the list, and then something called a "P Zeri Torfeo R12" which might be the mother of all typos. Wonder if that's meant to be Trofeo R?


fioran0

2,410 posts

172 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Haha. The list I saw had them called "torfeo" but the other bits were present and correct.
It would be worth investigating that's for sure though since its a faster tyre.

LaSource

2,622 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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fioran0 said:
Pirelli Trofeo R are on list 1b right?
These are faster than MPSC2 tyres by a good bit so you may want to give these a try if you were thinking of running cups.
I'm not a racer, but I hear that the Trofeo R are quicker and wear much faster too...perhaps someone can confirm

keep it lit

3,388 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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LaSource said:
fioran0 said:
Pirelli Trofeo R are on list 1b right?
These are faster than MPSC2 tyres by a good bit so you may want to give these a try if you were thinking of running cups.
I'm not a racer, but I hear that the Trofeo R are quicker and wear much faster too...perhaps someone can confirm
think Jack Wood has scrubbed a set off.... ?

majordad

3,601 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I tried a set of Trofero R, found them slower than cups, well to be exact they were marginal but felt slower. But since Fiorano has given them the thumbs up I will try them again, he's seldom wrong .