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DT398 said:
Good point that. I wouldn't want one of these out of warranty but it's not a big deal to keep a warranty going in the grand scheme of things.
Yuppy, that is my logic as well but it does mean keeping the car in absolutely OEM spec: tyres, exhaust, wiper blades etc. Oh well, probably worth it though. :-) sidicks said:
Just out of interest, how many engines have actually 'gone pop'?
I think about 12, excluding the 785 Porsche were concerned enough to swap out just in case. I don't think anyone really knows but there are a fewProbably not a major issue but the fact that they seem to be related to spirited/track use is a bit of a worry (for some)
Edited by DT398 on Monday 17th August 13:16
sidicks said:
agentbiscuit said:
Remember last year when Porsche had to recall every new 911 GT3 to replace the engines? Well, it’s happening to 911 GT3 owners again. Porsche has written to owners urging them to bring their 911 GT3s in to their local dealership to have the engine replaced—for the second time.
But whereas the original engine-replacement program affected every one of the 3.8-liter GT3 engines, the latest issue involves only about a dozen cars, according to Porsche. We know of five of the affected 911s, four of which are in use as ’Ring taxis on the Nürburgring Nordschleife.
The March 2014 recall encompassed 785 911 GT3s and was spurred after two cars suffered engine fires. The original engines were found to have an issue with a loosened screw joint on the piston connecting rod. The latest problem is in the valvetrain of the flat-six engine, and Porsche says that rather than fix them, it was easier to simply remove the entire engine and replace it with a new one.
Repost from several weeks ago - nothing to see here.But whereas the original engine-replacement program affected every one of the 3.8-liter GT3 engines, the latest issue involves only about a dozen cars, according to Porsche. We know of five of the affected 911s, four of which are in use as ’Ring taxis on the Nürburgring Nordschleife.
The March 2014 recall encompassed 785 911 GT3s and was spurred after two cars suffered engine fires. The original engines were found to have an issue with a loosened screw joint on the piston connecting rod. The latest problem is in the valvetrain of the flat-six engine, and Porsche says that rather than fix them, it was easier to simply remove the entire engine and replace it with a new one.
V8KSN said:
Mermaid said:
You would expect all the engine issues to be resolved in that time.
Yep, I'm sure they will. They fixed all the problems with the M96 engine didn't they? 
DT398 said:
I think about 12, excluding the 785 Porsche we concerned enough to swap out just in case. I don't think anyone really knows but there are a few
Probably not a major issue but the fact that they seem to be related to spirited/track use is a bit of a worry (for some)
How many 991 GT3 owners are on PH ? The only person I know with one is on his third engine, he tracks quite a lot and doesn't do forums, I would think most people would keep quiet about engine failures there is no doubt (IMO) it is going to affect values as these cars head toward the 9 year mark, they can't be rebuilt like the Mezgers and people will be scared of the big potential bills.Probably not a major issue but the fact that they seem to be related to spirited/track use is a bit of a worry (for some)
TB993tt said:
DT398 said:
I think about 12, excluding the 785 Porsche we concerned enough to swap out just in case. I don't think anyone really knows but there are a few
Probably not a major issue but the fact that they seem to be related to spirited/track use is a bit of a worry (for some)
How many 991 GT3 owners are on PH ? The only person I know with one is on his third engine, he tracks quite a lot and doesn't do forums, I would think most people would keep quiet about engine failures there is no doubt (IMO) it is going to affect values as these cars head toward the 9 year mark, they can't be rebuilt like the Mezgers and people will be scared of the big potential bills.Probably not a major issue but the fact that they seem to be related to spirited/track use is a bit of a worry (for some)
TB993tt said:
How many 991 GT3 owners are on PH ? The only person I know with one is on his third engine, he tracks quite a lot and doesn't do forums, I would think most people would keep quiet about engine failures there is no doubt (IMO) it is going to affect values as these cars head toward the 9 year mark, they can't be rebuilt like the Mezgers and people will be scared of the big potential bills.
Maybe but 9 years away is a whole other lifetime for a lot of people and there will likely be much better toys to play with than "that old 991 with the iffy engine and the wobbly rear wheel steering". Still plenty of fun to be had between now and then in these cars. I don't own one any more but they are great to drive and most people probably won't worry today about them being worth tuppence in 9 yearsDT398 said:
I think about 12, excluding the 785 Porsche were concerned enough to swap out just in case. I don't think anyone really knows but there are a few
I thought it was 12 involved in the recall, not 12 had 'gone pop'? DT398 said:
Probably not a major issue but the fact that they seem to be related to spirited/track use is a bit of a worry (for some)
Indeed - you'd expect these cars to be well maintained too!TB993tt said:
How many 991 GT3 owners are on PH ? The only person I know with one is on his third engine, he tracks quite a lot and doesn't do forums, I would think most people would keep quiet about engine failures there is no doubt (IMO) it is going to affect values as these cars head toward the 9 year mark, they can't be rebuilt like the Mezgers and people will be scared of the big potential bills.
Why can't the engines be rebuilt, if required?sidicks said:
I thought it was 12 involved in the recall, not 12 had 'gone pop'?
Yes, you could be right, mistake. Not sure how many have actually blown up but there are quite a few reports of error codes leading to OPC visits and replaced engines. It's a handful in the end but a lot seem to be cars that have been driven hard, so who knows?DT398 said:
sidicks said:
I thought it was 12 involved in the recall, not 12 had 'gone pop'?
Yes, you could be right, mistake. Not sure how many have actually blown up but there are quite a few reports of error codes leading to OPC visits and replaced engines. It's a handful in the end but a lot seem to be cars that have been drive hard, so who knows?Mermaid said:
Worried Sidicks?
Worried? I have over 6,000 miles on my car and it regularly goes up to 9,000rpm. The car still has 3 years of warranty remaining and I have faith that any problems that occur will be resolved satisfactorily, with an appropriate temporary replacement vehicle if required.sidicks said:
Why can't the engines be rebuilt, if required?
I mean comparative to the Mezger which is very rebuildable as it has evolved through racing with (known) houred components, with Porsche swapping engines for valve train "issues" does this point towards the GT3 A91 version being not as simple to rebuild ? I don't really know, it would be good to hear from someone who does like the guy from Hartec maybe ? TB993tt said:
sidicks said:
Why can't the engines be rebuilt, if required?
I mean comparative to the Mezger which is very rebuildable as it has evolved through racing with (known) houred components, with Porsche swapping engines for valve train "issues" does this point towards the GT3 A91 version being not as simple to rebuild ? I don't really know, it would be good to hear from someone who does like the guy from Hartec maybe ? However, this is an engine made in very low numbers. Yes, its basically a 9A1, but the heads are different, and it has finger followers along with a number of other specific parts. They aren't being raced either (Will they ever be?). So, where is the knowledge and expertise going to come from?
Are they going to put this engine in anything else after the GT3 & RS? We shall see.
mollytherocker said:
Anything can be rebuilt as long as parts are available.
However, this is an engine made in very low numbers. Yes, its basically a 9A1, but the heads are different, and it has finger followers along with a number of other specific parts. They aren't being raced either (Will they ever be?). So, where is the knowledge and expertise going to come from?
Are they going to put this engine in anything else after the GT3 & RS? We shall see.
I doubt it - surely they would want to put it as far behind them as possible?However, this is an engine made in very low numbers. Yes, its basically a 9A1, but the heads are different, and it has finger followers along with a number of other specific parts. They aren't being raced either (Will they ever be?). So, where is the knowledge and expertise going to come from?
Are they going to put this engine in anything else after the GT3 & RS? We shall see.
mollytherocker said:
However, this is an engine made in very low numbers. Yes, its basically a 9A1, but the heads are different, and it has finger followers along with a number of other specific parts. They aren't being raced either (Will they ever be?). So, where is the knowledge and expertise going to come from?
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The unstressed boggo engined GT4, and at close to half the price, is quite a draw and do think some 991 GT3 owners will defect to the "better" chassis/transmission. .
Patent said:
mollytherocker said:
Anything can be rebuilt as long as parts are available.
However, this is an engine made in very low numbers. Yes, its basically a 9A1, but the heads are different, and it has finger followers along with a number of other specific parts. They aren't being raced either (Will they ever be?). So, where is the knowledge and expertise going to come from?
Are they going to put this engine in anything else after the GT3 & RS? We shall see.
I doubt it - surely they would want to put it as far behind them as possible?However, this is an engine made in very low numbers. Yes, its basically a 9A1, but the heads are different, and it has finger followers along with a number of other specific parts. They aren't being raced either (Will they ever be?). So, where is the knowledge and expertise going to come from?
Are they going to put this engine in anything else after the GT3 & RS? We shall see.
pun based on 911 being rear engined
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