991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!

991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!

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terryb

976 posts

245 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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For every 991GT3 that has a £20k reduction, there are 2 being put on the market at top dollar - even one at £185k just now. This shows us that some are in no rush to sell at all and just speculating - the few that do need to sell will be the ones with the larger price drops.

The market is In a strange place and who knows what will happen when the RS hits the streets - fact is we don't know and the reviews may be so good that it pulls the values of GT3s up with them as the very next best thing. Who knows???

I've recently bought a 991GT3 and paid over list and whilst I wish I had been in a position to buy a new one at list, I do not regret my purchase as it is worth every penny. In my view there is no alternative for the money, even at current prices. I would bet that the majority that have owned a 991GT3 and have driven a regular 991 with PDK would feel the same way - as it is so much more of a package than the lesser models - for those that enjoy driving, which I would assume all GT3 owners would be.

Let's face it - those who want one will talk the values down and those who own one will talk values up - so a bit pointless as most have an agenda here smile

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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terryb said:
Let's face it - those who want one will talk the values down and those who own one will talk values up - so a bit pointless as most have an agenda here smile
Refreshing, but there is a third group - one that has no interest in owning one (but can afford one) and is amused by it all and believes it will all revert to mean at some stage. smile

Robbo66

3,834 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Mermaid said:
terryb said:
Let's face it - those who want one will talk the values down and those who own one will talk values up - so a bit pointless as most have an agenda here smile
Refreshing, but there is a third group - one that has no interest in owning one (but can afford one) and is amused by it all and believes it will all revert to mean at some stage. smile
Really scratchchin
I fear the third Partnership, of which you are obviously self elected Chairman, may be simply one or two serial posters who covet a 991GT3, but are fighting denial through a sea of green mist.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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hondansx said:
What does the R8 do better than the GT3 though? The R8 is also fundamentally a very old car.

Anyone would agree the GT3, even at £180k, is good value in a direct comparison against a Speciale. If however you can't afford a £180k car, then of course it's harder to rationalise.
GT3 get's nowhere close to a Speciale imo.

bit like saying a 2.7 cayman vs a Gt4 the gap is so big.

however if you can't afford a £220k car then of course it's harder to rationalise :-p

ThirtySomething

Original Poster:

172 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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terryb said:
For every 991GT3 that has a £20k reduction, there are 2 being put on the market at top dollar - even one at £185k just now. This shows us that some are in no rush to sell at all and just speculating - the few that do need to sell will be the ones with the larger price drops.

The market is In a strange place and who knows what will happen when the RS hits the streets - fact is we don't know and the reviews may be so good that it pulls the values of GT3s up with them as the very next best thing. Who knows???

I've recently bought a 991GT3 and paid over list and whilst I wish I had been in a position to buy a new one at list, I do not regret my purchase as it is worth every penny. In my view there is no alternative for the money, even at current prices. I would bet that the majority that have owned a 991GT3 and have driven a regular 991 with PDK would feel the same way - as it is so much more of a package than the lesser models - for those that enjoy driving, which I would assume all GT3 owners would be.

Let's face it - those who want one will talk the values down and those who own one will talk values up - so a bit pointless as most have an agenda here smile
For someone who says their is a lot of bks on this thread can sure speak a lot of bks too. smile

If you are advertising at 185k then you are clearly not a seller, more likely a market manipulator. No idiot, well there is always one I suppose, will pay 185k for a car when a similar car is available for 40k+ less.

I don't buy the GT3 RS bks of dragging up GT3 prices. We all know what the RS is more or less going to be like, the reviews are out there. If people want a RS, they want a RS, they are not gonna pay stupid overs to a get the next best thing. And wait till all the RS flippers hit the market .....

I'm glad for you that you bought one and you enjoy the car. No one here is saying that it is not an awesome machine. However, this market has been manipulated in my opinion, and the fact that you keep trying to defend the *overs* price you paid, shows that depreciation of the car matters to you! If you want to tell everyone how great the car is there is another thread on that, this one is unashamedly about prices. Read the title '991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!'






Edited by ThirtySomething on Thursday 25th June 00:56


Edited by ThirtySomething on Thursday 25th June 00:57

lemmingjames

7,460 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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GT4RS said:
lemmingjames said:
If it wasnt for a certain someone talking about prices, would people be that interested in the 'market'?
Considering this thread is on its 12th page I would say there's more than one person interested in which way the market is heading!
I really am rubbish at putting across what i mean, what im trying to say if it wasnt for Apollo stating the cars would be £180k by x, then there wouldnt be this sort of 'rejoicing' that the cars are coming back down and proving him wrong.

Not that he cares as he's probably flipped all of his by now, has a rhd/lhd RS on order (x2, one for driving, the other for showing naturally), 4x GT4's due to FOMO etc

lemmingjames

7,460 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Mermaid said:
I did mean at list, the premium is transitory, and yes good call on the R8 V10 - even better value than any almost GT3

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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lemmingjames said:
I really am rubbish at putting across what i mean, what im trying to say if it wasnt for Apollo stating the cars would be £180k by x, then there wouldnt be this sort of 'rejoicing' that the cars are coming back down and proving him wrong.

Not that he cares as he's probably flipped all of his by now, has a rhd/lhd RS on order (x2, one for driving, the other for showing naturally), 4x GT4's due to FOMO etc
Porsche halo products have certainly provided opportunities for traders.

ThirtySomething

Original Poster:

172 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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lemmingjames said:
I really am rubbish at putting across what i mean, what im trying to say if it wasnt for Apollo stating the cars would be £180k by x, then there wouldnt be this sort of 'rejoicing' that the cars are coming back down and proving him wrong.

Not that he cares as he's probably flipped all of his by now, has a rhd/lhd RS on order (x2, one for driving, the other for showing naturally), 4x GT4's due to FOMO etc
Well said! clap

And I think he is not the only secret trader on here.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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ThirtySomething said:
lemmingjames said:
I really am rubbish at putting across what i mean, what im trying to say if it wasnt for Apollo stating the cars would be £180k by x, then there wouldnt be this sort of 'rejoicing' that the cars are coming back down and proving him wrong.

Not that he cares as he's probably flipped all of his by now, has a rhd/lhd RS on order (x2, one for driving, the other for showing naturally), 4x GT4's due to FOMO etc
Well said! clap

And I think he is not the only secret trader on here.
More traders since for example the 4.0RS bucked the trend and every special model became a licence to print money for those that had access to the short supply of supply. Same with Ferrari, McLaren.. Lead to inevitable ramping up of prices - many will remember of how it was touted that the 4.0RS would reach at least £500k last year. Well the market stalled at circa £350k for PTS cars. Some got caught out on the 4.0RS.

s2000db

1,155 posts

154 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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ThirtySomething said:
Well said! clap

And I think he is not the only secret trader on here.
Wasn't a secret, was it??

GT4RS

4,435 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Mermaid said:
ThirtySomething said:
lemmingjames said:
I really am rubbish at putting across what i mean, what im trying to say if it wasnt for Apollo stating the cars would be £180k by x, then there wouldnt be this sort of 'rejoicing' that the cars are coming back down and proving him wrong.

Not that he cares as he's probably flipped all of his by now, has a rhd/lhd RS on order (x2, one for driving, the other for showing naturally), 4x GT4's due to FOMO etc
Well said! clap

And I think he is not the only secret trader on here.
More traders since for example the 4.0RS bucked the trend and every special model became a licence to print money for those that had access to the short supply of supply. Same with Ferrari, McLaren.. Lead to inevitable ramping up of prices - many will remember of how it was touted that the 4.0RS would reach at least £500k last year. Well the market stalled at circa £350k for PTS cars. Some got caught out on the 4.0RS.
Looking at how long certain 4.0rs cars have been advertised for this market is changing to!

ThirtySomething

Original Poster:

172 posts

221 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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s2000db said:
Wasn't a secret, was it??
Well, he clearly wasn't transparent about the duplicate number of cars he owned and speculator he was.

If people knew that, then they would have seen straight through his intentions and all the posts/hype he was creating.


mdianuk

2,890 posts

172 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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What I don't get is why they are allowed to continue buying from Porsche as a preferred customer. Surely it damages the brand to an extent and they are in a comfortable position of being able to hand pick who should buy these GT cars. Porsche must surely want buyers who take pride in them, and ideally chop them back in with the same OPC in 6/12 months time.

Prices remain high, but nothing seems to be shifting. Need them to drop a little further and find a light spec.

ThirtySomething

Original Poster:

172 posts

221 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Slippydiff said:
I'd suggest you establish who Apolo is and what if any his links are to Porsche AG, I think you'll then better appreciate how he's been able to access the cars.
Hmm. A poster on PH emailed me about his link to Porsche AG.

I invite him on here to clarify his position ! (wishful thinking).

isaldiri

18,604 posts

169 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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ThirtySomething said:
I invite him on here to clarify his position ! (wishful thinking).
Hilarious, I wouldn't bother if I were him to respond to various ludicrous accusations either.

FWIW, he's not a trader and if he's got a car or 2 (or 3... wink ) that he thinks will appreciate in value and has stated so, that's little different to a lot of other people here and certainly no different from those who keep on banging about how overvalued some cars are as well in the hope that prices go the direction they want.

V8KSN

4,711 posts

185 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Slippydiff said:
I'd suggest you establish who Apolo is and what if any his links are to Porsche AG, I think you'll then better appreciate how he's been able to access the cars.
I have often wondered this myself. Originally I thought he was a lottery winner hehe Is he a Porsche board member?

robgt3

2,585 posts

163 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Simply put my 991 GT3 is the best car in every respect that I have ever had the good fortune to own and drive. Nothing else to add !

Black_mamba

313 posts

210 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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robgt3 said:
Simply put my 991 GT3 is the best car in every respect that I have ever had the good fortune to own and drive. Nothing else to add !
can I borrow it this weekend, I've got an Ikea run...

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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robgt3 said:
Simply put my 991 GT3 is the best car in every respect that I have ever had the good fortune to own and drive. Nothing else to add !
Fanboy / Trader..
beer