991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!
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Another low mileage, nice spec car for sub £140k. This one from a opc centre to which is unusual as they are normal the most expensive cars advertised.
Another low mileage, nice spec car for sub £140k. This one from a opc centre to which is unusual as they are normal the most expensive cars advertised.
GT4RS said:
Be interesting to know what an opc would bid for a 991 Gt3 in the current climate. .
Have you tried ringing one or JZM and asking them?I imagine the offer would be low or not at all though, they'd try to offer SOR I expect.
I can't afford a 991 GT3 even at list anyway so it doesn't matter much to me.
ThirtySomething said:
For someone who says their is a lot of b
ks on this thread can sure speak a lot of bks too. 
If you are advertising at 185k then you are clearly not a seller, more likely a market manipulator. No idiot, well there is always one I suppose, will pay 185k for a car when a similar car is available for 40k+ less.
I don't buy the GT3 RS bks of dragging up GT3 prices. We all know what the RS is more or less going to be like, the reviews are out there. If people want a RS, they want a RS, they are not gonna pay stupid overs to a get the next best thing. And wait till all the RS flippers hit the market .....
I'm glad for you that you bought one and you enjoy the car. No one here is saying that it is not an awesome machine. However, this market has been manipulated in my opinion, and the fact that you keep trying to defend the *overs* price you paid, shows that depreciation of the car matters to you! If you want to tell everyone how great the car is there is another thread on that, this one is unashamedly about prices. Read the title '991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!'
Pot, kettle, etc ks on this thread can sure speak a lot of bks too. If you are advertising at 185k then you are clearly not a seller, more likely a market manipulator. No idiot, well there is always one I suppose, will pay 185k for a car when a similar car is available for 40k+ less.
I don't buy the GT3 RS b
ks of dragging up GT3 prices. We all know what the RS is more or less going to be like, the reviews are out there. If people want a RS, they want a RS, they are not gonna pay stupid overs to a get the next best thing. And wait till all the RS flippers hit the market .....I'm glad for you that you bought one and you enjoy the car. No one here is saying that it is not an awesome machine. However, this market has been manipulated in my opinion, and the fact that you keep trying to defend the *overs* price you paid, shows that depreciation of the car matters to you! If you want to tell everyone how great the car is there is another thread on that, this one is unashamedly about prices. Read the title '991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!'
Edited by ThirtySomething on Thursday 25th June 00:56
Edited by ThirtySomething on Thursday 25th June 00:57
Your opinion on prices is just that - your opinion and whilst it is shared by others it is still only an opinion. Others have a different opinion - that's real life. I don't expect the prices to rise and have never bought a car expecting to make money on it. I buy cars to drive and indeed drive them properly. It's a shame that some others don't as I think it's criminal - the GT3 of any generation should be driven properly oth on road and track - if not then the point of the car is being missed.
Anyway, back to the thread topic - currently 50 cars available - with that there are a few cheaper ones than 2 weeks ago and a few more expensive ones.
If you're so fixated by this, then why not start a spreadsheet and calculate the average value and then update on a weekly basis and post up on PH for all to see - it might just make you happy
Meanwhile, I'll be keeping happy driving my car, enjoying the occasional launch control for extra giggles and getting excited about my impending 1st Ring trip in this car
. It wouldn't matter what I paid for the car - the ownership experience is exactly the same no matter what the price 
terryb said:
Pot, kettle, etc
Your opinion on prices is just that - your opinion and whilst it is shared by others it is still only an opinion. Others have a different opinion - that's real life. I don't expect the prices to rise and have never bought a car expecting to make money on it. I buy cars to drive and indeed drive them properly. It's a shame that some others don't as I think it's criminal - the GT3 of any generation should be driven properly oth on road and track - if not then the point of the car is being missed.
Anyway, back to the thread topic - currently 50 cars available - with that there are a few cheaper ones than 2 weeks ago and a few more expensive ones.
If you're so fixated by this, then why not start a spreadsheet and calculate the average value and then update on a weekly basis and post up on PH for all to see - it might just make you happy
Meanwhile, I'll be keeping happy driving my car, enjoying the occasional launch control for extra giggles and getting excited about my impending 1st Ring trip in this car. It wouldn't matter what I paid for the car - the ownership experience is exactly the same no matter what the price
I agree with you, everyone has and is entitled to their opinions, and forums are great way for deducing probable facts once you start looking past the bullsYour opinion on prices is just that - your opinion and whilst it is shared by others it is still only an opinion. Others have a different opinion - that's real life. I don't expect the prices to rise and have never bought a car expecting to make money on it. I buy cars to drive and indeed drive them properly. It's a shame that some others don't as I think it's criminal - the GT3 of any generation should be driven properly oth on road and track - if not then the point of the car is being missed.
Anyway, back to the thread topic - currently 50 cars available - with that there are a few cheaper ones than 2 weeks ago and a few more expensive ones.
If you're so fixated by this, then why not start a spreadsheet and calculate the average value and then update on a weekly basis and post up on PH for all to see - it might just make you happy
Meanwhile, I'll be keeping happy driving my car, enjoying the occasional launch control for extra giggles and getting excited about my impending 1st Ring trip in this car
. It wouldn't matter what I paid for the car - the ownership experience is exactly the same no matter what the price t. But mate, c'mon, p-l-e-a-s-e, what is the relevance of those cars advertised at 185k? Honestly tell me, when you can see there are 50+ cars and they are trading at sub 140k now for full spec cars. If tomorrow someone advertises a car at 200k, are you going to post a thread "200k 991 GT3 has arrived" ? Irrelevant!And owners like you can't stop helping yourself posting on this thread.. Why? Be honest! It hurts
.... because for most people ownership experience can be tainted by huge depreciation and by feeling they were caught by the manipulation.Anyway, I'll stop giggling now
and prepare my spreadsheet!ThirtySomething said:
And owners like you can't stop helping yourself posting on this thread.. Why? Be honest! It hurts .... because for most people ownership experience can be tainted by huge depreciation and by feeling they were caught by the manipulation.
Anyway, I'll stop giggling now and prepare my spreadsheet!
Owners like me? What a stupid comment !!! I think this is my 4th post on this thread over the last couple of weeks - WOW - last of the prolific posters .... because for most people ownership experience can be tainted by huge depreciation and by feeling they were caught by the manipulation.Anyway, I'll stop giggling now
and prepare my spreadsheet!I knew when I bought mine that we were on the brink of change due to the vast number for sale. However I was given what I considered to be a great deal on the car I wanted combined with a brilliant trade-in on my 4 month old Cayenne GTS. I expected to lose quite a few £££s on the Cayenne, so if I lose the same number of £££s on the GT3 over the same period, I'll be much happier, having owned the car I really wanted. The Cayenne was a "try to be sensible idea", but that's just not me - but I gave it a try
So in my view and my last comment on this thread is that whatever happens to the prices, I don't really care (unless the prices drop to something ike £60k in 4 years, which just isn't going to happen and anyone who thinks they will is just a damned fool and knows nothing about the historic value of GT3s or is perhaps a soon to be GT4 owning naysayer
.....) - I know I will have enjoyed THE BEST Porsche on the market today - FACT Now I must get ready to go to the Goodwood Festival of Speed - Porsche VIP complimentary tickets don't you know
There's a number of reasons why there are cars still advertised at 165k plus.
Certain owners are getting worried and trying to keep prices high.
A SOR who isn't really interested in selling
Dealers who have lost there shirt and bought in high. Very unluckily as I'm sure most are SOR as a dealer wouldn't want to have there own cash tied up in a specialist car like this with so many available at the moment.
The only way to stop this price reduction happening is if the amount of cars currently for sale reduces dramatically. Sellers doing this would be taken a chance mind as these cars may be back to list pretty soon looking at the volume out there ATM.
Certain owners are getting worried and trying to keep prices high.
A SOR who isn't really interested in selling
Dealers who have lost there shirt and bought in high. Very unluckily as I'm sure most are SOR as a dealer wouldn't want to have there own cash tied up in a specialist car like this with so many available at the moment.
The only way to stop this price reduction happening is if the amount of cars currently for sale reduces dramatically. Sellers doing this would be taken a chance mind as these cars may be back to list pretty soon looking at the volume out there ATM.
terryb said:
Owners like me? What a stupid comment !!! I think this is my 4th post on this thread over the last couple of weeks - WOW - last of the prolific posters
I knew when I bought mine that we were on the brink of change due to the vast number for sale. However I was given what I considered to be a great deal on the car I wanted combined with a brilliant trade-in on my 4 month old Cayenne GTS. I expected to lose quite a few £££s on the Cayenne, so if I lose the same number of £££s on the GT3 over the same period, I'll be much happier, having owned the car I really wanted. The Cayenne was a "try to be sensible idea", but that's just not me - but I gave it a try
So in my view and my last comment on this thread is that whatever happens to the prices, I don't really care (unless the prices drop to something ike £60k in 4 years, which just isn't going to happen and anyone who thinks they will is just a damned fool and knows nothing about the historic value of GT3s or is perhaps a soon to be GT4 owning naysayer.....) - I know I will have enjoyed THE BEST Porsche on the market today - FACT
Now I must get ready to go to the Goodwood Festival of Speed - Porsche VIP complimentary tickets don't you know
So the market was on the brink of change, and you got a great deal on your part-ex. LOL. I knew when I bought mine that we were on the brink of change due to the vast number for sale. However I was given what I considered to be a great deal on the car I wanted combined with a brilliant trade-in on my 4 month old Cayenne GTS. I expected to lose quite a few £££s on the Cayenne, so if I lose the same number of £££s on the GT3 over the same period, I'll be much happier, having owned the car I really wanted. The Cayenne was a "try to be sensible idea", but that's just not me - but I gave it a try
So in my view and my last comment on this thread is that whatever happens to the prices, I don't really care (unless the prices drop to something ike £60k in 4 years, which just isn't going to happen and anyone who thinks they will is just a damned fool and knows nothing about the historic value of GT3s or is perhaps a soon to be GT4 owning naysayer
.....) - I know I will have enjoyed THE BEST Porsche on the market today - FACT Now I must get ready to go to the Goodwood Festival of Speed - Porsche VIP complimentary tickets don't you know
The dealer must have seen you coming, and no wonder he threw in some VIP tickets as well.
Well, thank christ that's your 4th and final post!
Mermaid said:
More traders since for example the 4.0RS bucked the trend and every special model became a licence to print money for those that had access to the short supply of supply. Same with Ferrari, McLaren.. Lead to inevitable ramping up of prices - many will remember of how it was touted that the 4.0RS would reach at least £500k last year. Well the market stalled at circa £350k for PTS cars. Some got caught out on the 4.0RS.
OT but Redline Specialist Cars are trying to move a 4.0RS (rhd, 1100 miles) for £425k. Doesn't history suggest that previous 996 and 997 GT3's dropped from list price at £80-£100k down to around £40-50k then bounce back, or have I got that completely wrong? If that is the case, what is to stop the 991 taking a similar tumble over the course of the next few years?
I know most don't like taking values, but it would appear Porsche's have been a little more predictable over the years, especially the GT range, and I'd really like to get my hands on one soon.
I know most don't like taking values, but it would appear Porsche's have been a little more predictable over the years, especially the GT range, and I'd really like to get my hands on one soon.
mdianuk said:
Doesn't history suggest that previous 996 and 997 GT3's dropped from list price at £80-£100k down to around £40-50k then bounce back, or have I got that completely wrong? If that is the case, what is to stop the 991 taking a similar tumble over the course of the next few years?
I know most don't like taking values, but it would appear Porsche's have been a little more predictable over the years, especially the GT range, and I'd really like to get my hands on one soon.
Too much money around, 991 GT3 relatively underpriced compared to the competition and the cars (all GT3's) have become an asset class for investment. So many low mileage/delivery mileage cars around for good reason.I know most don't like taking values, but it would appear Porsche's have been a little more predictable over the years, especially the GT range, and I'd really like to get my hands on one soon.
I'd expect these to revert to list, and that is very good going for any expensive sports car. The GT4 is the bargain GT car.
Mermaid said:
I'd expect these to revert to list, and that is very good going for any expensive sports car. The GT4 is the bargain GT car.
Tell me about it, I wanted to buy both GT3 (RS ideally) and GT4! Sooner my money in them than the bank tbh! I might monitor the lower spec GT3's if they close in on list price, as I'm not one for options so might be a good entry point (that's if I don't sink money into a V10 R8 if I get bored waiting).Mermaid said:
Too much money around, 991 GT3 relatively underpriced compared to the competition and the cars (all GT3's) have become an asset class for investment. So many low mileage/delivery mileage cars around for good reason.
I'd expect these to revert to list, and that is very good going for any expensive sports car. The GT4 is the bargain GT car.
100% agree on GT4 soooooo excited !!!!!!I'd expect these to revert to list, and that is very good going for any expensive sports car. The GT4 is the bargain GT car.
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