991 GT3 Prices - 50 cars available!
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Jim1556 said:
So he's heard about it, but not willing to divulge?
To be fair, it's not the fact they've had failures, Porsche have changed them under warranty (which is good of them), if a company looks after their customer, what's wrong with letting people know?
eg, "My engine let go, Porsche changed it - result!"
Well, these engine issues are going to plague the 991. Personally I would be very uncomfortable owning one once the warranty expires.To be fair, it's not the fact they've had failures, Porsche have changed them under warranty (which is good of them), if a company looks after their customer, what's wrong with letting people know?
eg, "My engine let go, Porsche changed it - result!"
Here is a recent article ....
AndrewD said:
It's not plaguing anybody except people on Internet forums at half past midnight who are not in the market for a car in any case, yes? 
Andrew it must be plaguing someone if they feel strongly enough to have an article written about it! I wasn't aware of further engine issues, does anyone have more information on this?
GT4RS said:
AndrewD said:
It's not plaguing anybody except people on Internet forums at half past midnight who are not in the market for a car in any case, yes?
Andrew it must be plaguing someone if they feel strongly enough to have an article written about it! I wasn't aware of further engine issues, does anyone have more information on this?
There are what 2000 cars worldwide. They are mechical things and if 12 need fixing, a good proportion of which are Ring Taxis, then that isn't a "plague".
start another engine thread, this should be just a prices thread other wise it gets out of hand.
The 991 will always be the one which caught fire the lemon etc etc how ever good it is, that's life.
if the new one is a faster manual NA car these will be below list quicker than you can say exploding engine.
thing with tech is it moves on, nothing about the 991 is basic so it's just going to be an outdated tech car with a sub standard engine NO one will touch out of warranty.
and RWS in 60k miles is bound to have issue, some one has already posted play in that area.
the 991.2 GT3 will be the better car and prob have the RS engine
The 991 will always be the one which caught fire the lemon etc etc how ever good it is, that's life.
if the new one is a faster manual NA car these will be below list quicker than you can say exploding engine.
thing with tech is it moves on, nothing about the 991 is basic so it's just going to be an outdated tech car with a sub standard engine NO one will touch out of warranty.
and RWS in 60k miles is bound to have issue, some one has already posted play in that area.
the 991.2 GT3 will be the better car and prob have the RS engine
Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 17th July 09:06
AndrewD said:
Don't be so naive. Journalists will write anything to get a story and websites want more exciting content.
There are what 2000 cars worldwide. They are mechical things and if 12 need fixing, a good proportion of which are Ring Taxis, then that isn't a "plague".
Let's try to be objective:There are what 2000 cars worldwide. They are mechical things and if 12 need fixing, a good proportion of which are Ring Taxis, then that isn't a "plague".
Media needs some evidence before they can publish a story
& it is closer to 4500 cars.
12 that are known of so far, most are garaged or have not been driven much. When all these cars have 20k miles on them and still only 12 issues, then we can rest easy.
However you slice & dice it, it bodes badly for value in context of all else that is happening.
Turbocharging the way to go?
Mermaid said:
Let's try to be objective:
Media needs some evidence before they can publish a story
& it is closer to 4500 cars.
12 that are known of so far, most are garaged or have not been driven much. When all these cars have 20k miles on them and still only 12 issues, then we can rest easy.
However you slice & dice it, it bodes badly for value in context of all else that is happening.
Turbocharging the way to go?
Objective would be good on this thread.Media needs some evidence before they can publish a story
& it is closer to 4500 cars.
12 that are known of so far, most are garaged or have not been driven much. When all these cars have 20k miles on them and still only 12 issues, then we can rest easy.
However you slice & dice it, it bodes badly for value in context of all else that is happening.
Turbocharging the way to go?
You obviously don't believe "media needs evidence". Of what?
4500 cars not 2000, great even better vs 12.
It isn't objective to assume there is a plague about to descend on all those unused cars. Which ones are those? Objectively you don't know that. All we know right now is 12 cars out of 4500.
That isn't a plague. If it keeps Internet chatter going from the people who would never buy one, fair enough.
AndrewD said:
It's not plaguing anybody except people on Internet forums at half past midnight who are not in the market for a car in any case, yes?
Half past midnight? 
Are you making this up again?Considering I am in the States at the moment, it was 7:30 pm Eastern Time when I posted.
ThirtySomething said:
AndrewD said:
It's not plaguing anybody except people on Internet forums at half past midnight who are not in the market for a car in any case, yes?
Half past midnight? Are you making this up again?Considering I am in the States at the moment, it was 7:30 pm Eastern Time when I posted.
AndrewD said:
Mermaid said:
Let's try to be objective:
Media needs some evidence before they can publish a story
& it is closer to 4500 cars.
12 that are known of so far, most are garaged or have not been driven much. When all these cars have 20k miles on them and still only 12 issues, then we can rest easy.
However you slice & dice it, it bodes badly for value in context of all else that is happening.
Turbocharging the way to go?
Objective would be good on this thread.Media needs some evidence before they can publish a story
& it is closer to 4500 cars.
12 that are known of so far, most are garaged or have not been driven much. When all these cars have 20k miles on them and still only 12 issues, then we can rest easy.
However you slice & dice it, it bodes badly for value in context of all else that is happening.
Turbocharging the way to go?
You obviously don't believe "media needs evidence". Of what?
4500 cars not 2000, great even better vs 12.
It isn't objective to assume there is a plague about to descend on all those unused cars. Which ones are those? Objectively you don't know that. All we know right now is 12 cars out of 4500.
That isn't a plague. If it keeps Internet chatter going from the people who would never buy one, fair enough.
I provided the 4500 figure to correct your factual inaccuracy ( you were relying on a figure quoted on rennlist - that is US cars I believe). BUT still it is not good, and even 1 would have the Porsche board in a tizz.
Plague - random at this stage, and lets hope we do not have a cluster forming of issues on cars that have 15k+ miles on them.
& more people can buy these cars than you can ever imagine, so give up on that please
As the market appears to be on the change I thought I would enquire about this car.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I sent an enquiry in to the garage asking them to run some finance figures based on a 60k cash deposit, 7k miles per year, over 4 years with a guaranteed future value payment at the end.
They came back with a rate of 9.2%
This high rate didn't shock me from a opc. In the past I have used Lombard at a rate of around 6%.
What did shock me was Porsches guaranteed future value after 4 years of only £41k. I was expecting this to be a lot higher.
Was I mad to think this?
The original list price of this car was apparently £114k
Can I have peoples genuine opinion on this please?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I sent an enquiry in to the garage asking them to run some finance figures based on a 60k cash deposit, 7k miles per year, over 4 years with a guaranteed future value payment at the end.
They came back with a rate of 9.2%
This high rate didn't shock me from a opc. In the past I have used Lombard at a rate of around 6%.
What did shock me was Porsches guaranteed future value after 4 years of only £41k. I was expecting this to be a lot higher.
Was I mad to think this?
The original list price of this car was apparently £114k
Can I have peoples genuine opinion on this please?
Edited by GT4RS on Friday 17th July 20:22
GT4RS said:
As the market appears to be on the change I thought I would enquire about this car.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I sent an enquiry in to the garage asking them to run some finance figures based on a 60k cash deposit, 7k miles per year, over 4 years with a guaranteed future value payment at the end.
They came back with a rate of 9.2%
This high rate didn't shock me from a opc. In the past I have used Lombard at a rate of around 6%.
What did shock me was Porsches guaranteed future value after 4 years of only £41k. I was expecting this to be a lot higher.
Was I mad to think this?
The original list price of this car was apparently £114k
Can I have peoples genuine opinion on this please?
Hmm...... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I sent an enquiry in to the garage asking them to run some finance figures based on a 60k cash deposit, 7k miles per year, over 4 years with a guaranteed future value payment at the end.
They came back with a rate of 9.2%
This high rate didn't shock me from a opc. In the past I have used Lombard at a rate of around 6%.
What did shock me was Porsches guaranteed future value after 4 years of only £41k. I was expecting this to be a lot higher.
Was I mad to think this?
The original list price of this car was apparently £114k
Can I have peoples genuine opinion on this please?
You have been the loudest voice on here for quite some time complaining about high priced GT3's in both 997 and 991 form.
I am struggling to believe that, as you say, '..the market appears to be on the change..' you have gone out and enquired about one of the most expensive ones out there!
I think this whole post has just been to point out the guaranteed future value of £41k, if so then why did you not 'genuinely enquire' about one of the cheaper ones from an OPC?
Apologies wrong link attached, correct link in my original post
This car is the cheapest cs in the opc network.
I have only every bought my cars from the opc network hence why I priced this car. !
The reason behind me looking into the price of this car is I now feel the 997 are not worth the money they are being advertised for ( hence why there is 61 adverts on piston heads alone and most have be for sale for the best part of this year).
To me the 991 is starting to look far better value as the prices are falling.
If you have nothing good to say about my post please do not post.
This car is the cheapest cs in the opc network.
I have only every bought my cars from the opc network hence why I priced this car. !
The reason behind me looking into the price of this car is I now feel the 997 are not worth the money they are being advertised for ( hence why there is 61 adverts on piston heads alone and most have be for sale for the best part of this year).
To me the 991 is starting to look far better value as the prices are falling.
If you have nothing good to say about my post please do not post.
Edited by GT4RS on Friday 17th July 20:24
GT4RS said:
Apologies wrong link attached, correct link in my original post
This car is the cheapest cs in the opc network.
I have only every bought my cars from the opc network hence why I priced this car. !
The reason behind me looking into the price of this car is I now feel the 997 are not worth the money they are being advertised for ( hence why there is 61 adverts on piston heads alone and most have be for sale for the best part of this year).
To me the 991 is starting to look far better value as the prices are falling.
If you have nothing good to say about my post please do not post.
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause any offence. This car is the cheapest cs in the opc network.
I have only every bought my cars from the opc network hence why I priced this car. !
The reason behind me looking into the price of this car is I now feel the 997 are not worth the money they are being advertised for ( hence why there is 61 adverts on piston heads alone and most have be for sale for the best part of this year).
To me the 991 is starting to look far better value as the prices are falling.
If you have nothing good to say about my post please do not post.
Edited by GT4RS on Friday 17th July 20:24
So, yes, the 997 GT3 is relatively stable price wise with no uncertainties regarding reliability.
The 991 GT3 in comparison is an unknown quantity regarding reliability (though this may be nothing to worry about) and prices are still dropping yet despite this you feel its better value?
V8KSN said:
GT4RS said:
Apologies wrong link attached, correct link in my original post
This car is the cheapest cs in the opc network.
I have only every bought my cars from the opc network hence why I priced this car. !
The reason behind me looking into the price of this car is I now feel the 997 are not worth the money they are being advertised for ( hence why there is 61 adverts on piston heads alone and most have be for sale for the best part of this year).
To me the 991 is starting to look far better value as the prices are falling.
If you have nothing good to say about my post please do not post.
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause any offence. This car is the cheapest cs in the opc network.
I have only every bought my cars from the opc network hence why I priced this car. !
The reason behind me looking into the price of this car is I now feel the 997 are not worth the money they are being advertised for ( hence why there is 61 adverts on piston heads alone and most have be for sale for the best part of this year).
To me the 991 is starting to look far better value as the prices are falling.
If you have nothing good to say about my post please do not post.
Edited by GT4RS on Friday 17th July 20:24
So, yes, the 997 GT3 is relatively stable price wise with no uncertainties regarding reliability.
The 991 GT3 in comparison is an unknown quantity regarding reliability (though this may be nothing to worry about) and prices are still dropping yet despite this you feel its better value?
With all the hype around the value of gt3 cars at the moment I was expected the GFV to be far higher than £41k.
I'm happy to wait on the side lines until the right car turns up.
V8KSN said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause any offence.
So, yes, the 997 GT3 is relatively stable price wise with no uncertainties regarding reliability.
The 991 GT3 in comparison is an unknown quantity regarding reliability (though this may be nothing to worry about) and prices are still dropping yet despite this you feel its better value?
I agree with your comment on the 997 reliability. So, yes, the 997 GT3 is relatively stable price wise with no uncertainties regarding reliability.
The 991 GT3 in comparison is an unknown quantity regarding reliability (though this may be nothing to worry about) and prices are still dropping yet despite this you feel its better value?
GT4RS said:
What did shock me was Porsches guaranteed future value after 4 years of only £41k. I was expecting this to be a lot higher.
Definitely wrong to me, £41k. Absolutely no fEdited by GT4RS on Friday 17th July 20:22
king way!! I mean OPC should know better than that. They know it should in fact be a lot lower now that Mr Preuninger has suggested re-introduction of the manual box and keeping NA engines for next GT3.
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