Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

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Big Al.

Original Poster:

68,798 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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iambeowulf

712 posts

171 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Yey!

Er, I went to Banff once and it was windy and cold.
I owned an 89 Rover Montego, facelift version, in white.

Stay with us Scotch people.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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exitwound said:
Scotland's......still bankrolling Westminster as usual.
Even Nicola doesn't believe that one anymore.

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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r11co said:
Even Nicola doesn't believe that one anymore.
What do we want?

FULL FISCAL AUTONO... (Oh hang on, we don't actually raise enough taxes to do that, so let's just keep the 'temporary' Barnet formula for another few decades.

Pretty sure the SNP will be campaigning against devolution shortly with the amount of backtracking being done rofl

Beati Dogu

8,862 posts

138 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Is the Barnett formula going to be dumped at long last? It was only introduced in a cynical and ultimately vain attempt to keep Labour in power at the 1979 general election. Before he died last November, even Lord Barnett said it should go and that it "had become an embarrassment".

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Beati Dogu said:
Is the Barnett formula going to be dumped at long last? It was only introduced in a cynical and ultimately vain attempt to keep Labour in power at the 1979 general election. Before he died last November, even Lord Barnett said it should go and that it "had become an embarrassment".
What's the betting Fat Alex would like it to be renamed "The Salmond Factor" or somesuch? It should go. If they're moaning, actually give them something to moan about rather than just whinging like a slapped child.

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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According to that august organ Daily Mail she's on a Mugabe style land grab mission.

ianrb

1,529 posts

139 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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The Guardian has a slightly more thoughtful article about the SNP

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/21/ho...

In summary, the act like Tories but talk like Labour, sort of like Tony Blair...


AC43

11,433 posts

207 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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exitwound said:
if you push us too far and renege on the promises made last year, we will walk, ..
I seem to recall that 55% of the referendum vote was AGAINST leaving the UK.

Now that the oil money has vanished and the SNP have singularly failed to explain that or any other of their economic policies the 55% will be voting No again.

I'd predict it'll more like 60:40 No this time as people will have more time to realise how hollow the SNP promises actually are and will have seen the antics and the powerlessness of their MP's in Westminster.




donutsina911

1,049 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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simoid said:
r11co said:
Even Nicola doesn't believe that one anymore.
What do we want?

FULL FISCAL AUTONO... (Oh hang on, we don't actually raise enough taxes to do that, so let's just keep the 'temporary' Barnet formula for another few decades.

Pretty sure the SNP will be campaigning against devolution shortly with the amount of backtracking being done rofl
^ This laugh

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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simoid said:
What do we want?

FULL FISCAL AUTONO... (Oh hang on, we don't actually raise enough taxes to do that, so let's just keep the 'temporary' Barnet formula for another few decades.

Pretty sure the SNP will be campaigning against devolution shortly with the amount of backtracking being done rofl
What do they want? They want to have their cake and eat it whilst blaming others for their woes.

Tis' the Scottish Nationalist way, t'was ever thus!

Big Rod

6,198 posts

215 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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laugh

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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AC43 said:
exitwound said:
if you push us too far and renege on the promises made last year, we will walk, ..
I seem to recall that 55% of the referendum vote was AGAINST leaving the UK.

Now that the oil money has vanished and the SNP have singularly failed to explain that or any other of their economic policies the 55% will be voting No again.

I'd predict it'll more like 60:40 No this time as people will have more time to realise how hollow the SNP promises actually are and will have seen the antics and the powerlessness of their MP's in Westminster.
this is the thing, the % figures have been so misrepresented by the nationalists it's quite difficult to gain an accurate figure from their lies and myths..

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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At least it's not all bad news, Michelle Mones fking off out the country and the SNP have managed to wind up Sam Cams step dad

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Yeah, nothing better than successful Scottish multimillionaires taking their taxes elsewhere.

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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simoid said:
Yeah, nothing better than successful Scottish multimillionaires taking their taxes elsewhere.
Mone is far from successful. Her man was the brains behind the business, ever since they split her Company has made annual losses, I'd also wager Ultimo pay more taxes in China than in the UK

She's arguably only successful for being a self publicist who pimps out her daughter to advertise her brand

The main reason for the inherited success of Lord Astor's toys out of the pram diatribe is due to losing his lucrative tax break under the new rules, won't somebody think of the landed gentry especially those whose estate is owned by a Trust registered in the Bahamas




Edited by Strocky on Thursday 21st May 19:33

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Strocky said:
At least it's not all bad news, Michelle Mones fking off out the country and the SNP have managed to wind up Sam Cams step dad
rofl Finally we see eye to eye!

beer

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Strocky said:
The main reason for the inherited success of Lord Astor's toys out of the pram diatribe is due to losing his lucrative tax break under the new rules, won't somebody think of the landed gentry especially those whose estate is owned by a Trust registered in the Bahamas.
Spoken like a true jealous waster. SNP's land reform proposal is just a massively scaled up car-keying exercise. Deprive someone of something by thuggery because you are not as smart as them.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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r11co said:
Spoken like a true jealous waster. SNP's land reform proposal is just a massively scaled up car-keying exercise. Deprive someone of something by thuggery because you are not as smart as them.
I doubt they will ever be able to implement such rules and if they did folk would be queuing out of the doors at the ECHR to appeal them.

bad company

18,483 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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The nationalist debate is becoming increasingly divisive. I know many English people who would now love to be able to vote yes.
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