996GT2 at HWM - anyone seen it?
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When I bought my GT2 the finance co I used said they were treated to some corprorate track action in one, courtesy of Rupert Lewin, they congratulated me on my purchase as the track day had really opened their eyes to the potential of the 996 GT2. I believe this to be the said car. Upshot is it's done a fair few track miles one can imagine. As for HWM then based upon searches here im recommending my business partner give them a wide birth. Very, very questionable behaviour that I'm surprised is tolerated.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:14
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:16
the other me said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Ha ha love it!! "The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:14
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:16
the other me said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Or stored for future value and the son is now cashing in on an increasing market......... clever these boys"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:14
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:16
NAS90 said:
the other me said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Or stored for future value and the son is now cashing in on an increasing market......... clever these boys"The original service book notes 2 Italian owners and it is understood both were family members"
Seems they were all too busy attending to "family business" to service it between Oct 2005 & January 2013 . . . . . . blood takes a lot of cleaning up on that black leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:14
Edited by the other me on Saturday 30th May 16:16
jfp said:
It's a shocking service history - 8 years and 8,000 Km's. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, especially coming out of Italy.
All depends on how & why the gap is there, if it was only used occasionally and never serviced for 8 years, then it's not ideal. If however it was stored properly for several years due to ill health, an overseas posting, etc. then recommissioned and brought back into use several years later then it shouldn't bother any serious buyer in the slightest.Low mileage European specification GT2s under 100k are now somewhat hard to find RHD or LHD so I think i'd make the effort to see it and find out more information before passing what might be a great car based upon a perceived gap in the service history.
Each to their own I guess.
It's not the 8 years that bothers me between services it's that 8k miles were done over that time. To lay up a car all thst
time I'd be wanting to see a service at layup with fresh oil then at recommission potentially a full fluid change. But to have used oil sitting around in there for all that time and with significant use at some points seems fairly brutal. But all that said, a good service perhaps a second early oil change and thorough look over for oil leaks etc would mean it becoming a fine car again.
What sort of permanent but not easily detectable early damage could it have suffered?? I suppose blocked or restricted oilways with sludge could be a concern?
time I'd be wanting to see a service at layup with fresh oil then at recommission potentially a full fluid change. But to have used oil sitting around in there for all that time and with significant use at some points seems fairly brutal. But all that said, a good service perhaps a second early oil change and thorough look over for oil leaks etc would mean it becoming a fine car again.
What sort of permanent but not easily detectable early damage could it have suffered?? I suppose blocked or restricted oilways with sludge could be a concern?
supermono said:
It's not the 8 years that bothers me between services it's that 8k miles were done over that time. To lay up a car all thst
time I'd be wanting to see a service at layup with fresh oil then at recommission potentially a full fluid change. But to have used oil sitting around in there for all that time and with significant use at some points seems fairly brutal. But all that said, a good service perhaps a second early oil change and thorough look over for oil leaks etc would mean it becoming a fine car again.
What sort of permanent but not easily detectable early damage could it have suffered?? I suppose blocked or restricted oilways with sludge could be a concern?
After 3 years, 10,000kms and two more services I would say you are pretty safe that there are no surprises lurkingtime I'd be wanting to see a service at layup with fresh oil then at recommission potentially a full fluid change. But to have used oil sitting around in there for all that time and with significant use at some points seems fairly brutal. But all that said, a good service perhaps a second early oil change and thorough look over for oil leaks etc would mean it becoming a fine car again.
What sort of permanent but not easily detectable early damage could it have suffered?? I suppose blocked or restricted oilways with sludge could be a concern?
JMy car has done 70k and it drives and looks like new even the ceramic brakes look as new.
I've seen the hwm car I belive it did have ceramic brakes and it has the wrong seats for a club sport lots of internal carbon fibre bits doesn't look as nice as mine could do with some work to make it mint I thought the kill switch under the bonnet looked wrong looked a bit like a rocker switch thought it should be red. I also noted the roll cage looked wrong it was black and I thought they were chrome but that's just a guess. The car had been cleaned very well but I would expect the car to look perfect.
I've seen the hwm car I belive it did have ceramic brakes and it has the wrong seats for a club sport lots of internal carbon fibre bits doesn't look as nice as mine could do with some work to make it mint I thought the kill switch under the bonnet looked wrong looked a bit like a rocker switch thought it should be red. I also noted the roll cage looked wrong it was black and I thought they were chrome but that's just a guess. The car had been cleaned very well but I would expect the car to look perfect.
JMy car has done 70k and it drives and looks like new even the ceramic brakes look as new.
I've seen the hwm car I belive it did have ceramic brakes and it has the wrong seats for a club sport lots of internal carbon fibre bits doesn't look as nice as mine could do with some work to make it mint I thought the kill switch under the bonnet looked wrong looked a bit like a rocker switch thought it should be red. I also noted the roll cage looked wrong it was black and I thought they were chrome but that's just a guess. The car had been cleaned very well but I would expect the car to look perfect.
I've seen the hwm car I belive it did have ceramic brakes and it has the wrong seats for a club sport lots of internal carbon fibre bits doesn't look as nice as mine could do with some work to make it mint I thought the kill switch under the bonnet looked wrong looked a bit like a rocker switch thought it should be red. I also noted the roll cage looked wrong it was black and I thought they were chrome but that's just a guess. The car had been cleaned very well but I would expect the car to look perfect.
gt2russ said:
JMy car has done 70k and it drives and looks like new even the ceramic brakes look as new.
I've seen the hwm car I belive it did have ceramic brakes and it has the wrong seats for a club sport lots of internal carbon fibre bits doesn't look as nice as mine could do with some work to make it mint I thought the kill switch under the bonnet looked wrong looked a bit like a rocker switch thought it should be red. I also noted the roll cage looked wrong it was black and I thought they were chrome but that's just a guess. The car had been cleaned very well but I would expect the car to look perfect.
Genuine CS's do have black cages and nomex seats. The switch for the cutout is a toggle switch and the cord is red. I know the car in question has done a LOT of track miles as used for corporate entertainment by Rupert Lewin Racing. The dealer, well, is a shocker. A genuine CS would sell in a heartbeat.I've seen the hwm car I belive it did have ceramic brakes and it has the wrong seats for a club sport lots of internal carbon fibre bits doesn't look as nice as mine could do with some work to make it mint I thought the kill switch under the bonnet looked wrong looked a bit like a rocker switch thought it should be red. I also noted the roll cage looked wrong it was black and I thought they were chrome but that's just a guess. The car had been cleaned very well but I would expect the car to look perfect.
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