997 Turbo Prices

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Denno B

965 posts

205 months

Monday 17th August 2015
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D_2 said:
That's the thing, I hadn't driven the car for about 2 weeks then decided to take it out last weekend...only travelled 1 mile and got a fault warning on dash.... Turns out my tyre monitoring sensors have went flat, £150 a wheel, another £600 spent on a car I only do 1000 miles a year in! BUT and there's a BIG BUT, on the rare occasion I do get time to enjoy the car it puts the biggest smile on my face ever, it truely is an amazing car!
The sensible part of me says sell, the petrolhead nutter part of me says keep.
Think you could find something much cheaper to buy and run to have as a weekend car, as well as more fun.The 997 turbo comes across more as a great daily than a toy, 1000 miles a year seems a really waste on such a car.

nwates

376 posts

184 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Actively looking for a late Gen 1 manual with very low miles . Proving very difficult to find a car

nicksps

24 posts

109 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Adam B said:
StuH said:
Wow so 5:1 gen1 vs gen2! No wonder I struggled to find the right car.....
Hmmm 3.7:1 actually, but yes quite a difference.

Anyone would think some catastrophic happened to the world economy in late 2008/2009 wink
So, on the basis that a Gen 2 is a better car than the Gen 1 (PDK vs Tiptronic and better reliability), and built in far fewer numbers, then it is also a much better long term buy.......

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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nicksps said:
Adam B said:
StuH said:
Wow so 5:1 gen1 vs gen2! No wonder I struggled to find the right car.....
Hmmm 3.7:1 actually, but yes quite a difference.

Anyone would think some catastrophic happened to the world economy in late 2008/2009 wink
So, on the basis that a Gen 2 is a better car than the Gen 1 (PDK vs Tiptronic and better reliability), and built in far fewer numbers, then it is also a much better long term buy.......
Low mileage manual Mezger's with ceramics will outperform medium to long term... But if you're buying to drive honestly with a bit of fettling gen 1 turbos are amazing. All their faults can be addressed.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=28&...

Mine will never be worth anything as its been modded but a-b on a typical give and take leafy UK road an F12, 458 Speciale, and 12C wouldn't know which way it went IMO. See clip. On a longer run it would also show a clean pair of heals to a 650 S. Impressive for a manual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8EbcX5A_c

StuH

2,557 posts

273 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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nicksps said:
So, on the basis that a Gen 2 is a better car than the Gen 1 (PDK vs Tiptronic and better reliability), and built in far fewer numbers, then it is also a much better long term buy.......
Yes I think so. Having driven several of each I think the gen2 is a better car so that should reflect in future values.

nwates

376 posts

184 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Gen 1 manual with the Mezger engine will be the best investment

Edited by nwates on Friday 21st August 23:43

nwates

376 posts

184 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Gen 1 manual with the Mezger engine will be the best investment

Edited by nwates on Friday 21st August 23:42

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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For the love of god, its Mezger, fking Mezger!

Why cant anybody even get the name right!

Adam B

27,244 posts

254 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Does my nut in too, especially when it's usually the focal point of the post

But I agree the manual Mezger is the best bet value wise (gen 2 pdk is the more accomplished car which is irrelevant when it comes to values, otherwise we could buy a 964 turbo 3.6 for £20k)

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Any excuse to get pics up lol smile


StuH

2,557 posts

273 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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I think gen2's will outperform gen1's in the longer term - better car and fewer of them.


Mark A S

1,836 posts

188 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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IMI A said:


Any excuse to get pics up lol smile

I REALLY like this car smile

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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StuH said:
I think gen2's will outperform gen1's in the longer term - better car and fewer of them.
I think you're on recreational pharmaceuticals lol biglaughlaughheheroflthumbup

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Mark A S said:
IMI A said:


Any excuse to get pics up lol smile

I REALLY like this car smile
Cheers Mark wink



Skrambles

1,310 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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StuH said:
I think gen2's will outperform gen1's in the longer term - better car and fewer of them.
Really doubt it. The gen 2 is in no man's land between the Mezger 997.1 and the 991 turbo. If I was in the market for a non-Mezger turbo in the longer term, I'd be looking for a 991 with the newer tech, rather than a precursor to the 991.

Skrambles

1,310 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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IMI A said:


Any excuse to get pics up lol smile

You've done a brilliant job on the car. It looks fantastic. thumbup

StuH

2,557 posts

273 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Skrambles said:
Really doubt it. The gen 2 is in no man's land between the Mezger 997.1 and the 991 turbo. If I was in the market for a non-Mezger turbo in the longer term, I'd be looking for a 991 with the newer tech, rather than a precursor to the 991.
Well I WAS in the market 2 months ago and saw it completely differently wink - I was originally going for a gen1 but once I'd driven the gen2 It was so obviously the better car, that I increased my budget. The 991 is massively more expensive again and bigger so that just didn't figure in the equation. The gen2 feels like a much newer car with PDK and PCM3 and at the end of the day I just buy the best car to drive for my budget not as an investment - there are much better investments out there yes Four times as many gen1 makes them a bit common as well biggrin

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Skrambles said:
IMI A said:


Any excuse to get pics up lol smile

You've done a brilliant job on the car. It looks fantastic. thumbup
Cheers buddy

Skrambles

1,310 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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StuH said:
Well I WAS in the market 2 months ago and saw it completely differently wink - I was originally going for a gen1 but once I'd driven the gen2 It was so obviously the better car, that I increased my budget. The 991 is massively more expensive again and bigger so that just didn't figure in the equation. The gen2 feels like a much newer car with PDK and PCM3 and at the end of the day I just buy the best car to drive for my budget not as an investment - there are much better investments out there yes Four times as many gen1 makes them a bit common as well biggrin
Fair comments, but:-

The 991 is still comparatively new. In a few years time (longer term), when they've tumbled in price, it'll be a different story.

A lot of gen 1 997 turbos were made, though it seemed (when I was buying mine in 2009) that most were tiptronic. The OPCs' line was that the car was designed to be tiptronic and better for it, and that only a minority went for manual.

I drove quite a few gen 2 turbos (and turbo S), including quite a few at Silverstone. They didn't feel newer to me, and certainly didn't feel any better than the gen 1, but I did like the PDK much more than the tiptronic - that certainly felt newer. PCM3 was an insignificant difference and already seemed dated. (In-car tech is an area in which Porsche is years behind BMW, IMO).

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nwates

376 posts

184 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Good try but unlikely

IMI A said:
I think you're on recreational pharmaceuticals lol biglaughlaughheheroflthumbup