997 Turbo S vs 2014 GTR

[anissut]

Thoughts on 64 plate GTR with 4.5k miles against 2011 997 Turbo S with 15-20k miles? Obviously the Porsche is more expensive, has a much nicer interior, is smaller/more nimble and is probably a more comfortable daily when you take into consideration ride compliance and luxury of interior. BUT on the flip side the GTR would be 3.5 years newer and 15-20k cheaper. Performance I'm guessing would be pretty similar or would it? I know I have posted on a Porsche forum so may get biased responses. Residuals on a 997 Turbo S at 80k???

Actually quite torn about it. 997 TTS a better looking car even though it's previous generation? Although in some ways the Nissan has a brutish, muscular look that seems to turn heads?

[StuH]

anissut said:

Thoughts on 64 plate GTR with 4.5k miles against 2011 997 Turbo S with 15-20k miles? Obviously the Porsche is more expensive, has a much nicer interior, is smaller/more nimble and is probably a more comfortable daily when you take into consideration ride compliance and luxury of interior. BUT on the flip side the GTR would be 3.5 years newer and 15-20k cheaper. Performance I'm guessing would be pretty similar or would it? I know I have posted on a Porsche forum so may get biased responses. Residuals on a 997 Turbo S at 80k???

Actually quite torn about it. 997 TTS a better looking car even though it's previous generation? Although in some ways the Nissan has a brutish, muscular look that seems to turn heads?

I looked at the GTR before moving onto the 997TT. I agree about the looks, but the interior is awful - the ones I looked at all had the red/black trim, and plastic EVERYWHERE. Then there's the terrible ride at low speed ;( - I think as a second car it would be great fun, but as DD it just didn't work for me.

[IMI A]

I'm going to sound like a heathen - I'd go GTR in your shoes. Always better to buy a newer car and the GTR is the superior car in terms of engineering IMO. Try and find a 2015 car if you can as ride is more comfortable.

[Skyman]

This might help...
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/compariso...
I went for the GTR. No regrets at all, but mine is not a DD. At the end of the MY14, brand new cars could be had on a 15 plate for £70k. That was a good deal IMO.

[Adam B]

I am sure you would get a different response on a GTR forum but easiest decision in the world for me.

997 better looking, no comparison in interior quality, and GTR just looks bloody huge

[PPPPPP]

Listen to your heart, for the head will favour both

[Pepsi Max 996T]

It really comes down to your own criteria. you have mentioned depreciation, performance and possible use as a dd. What do you drive now and in what areas are you looking to improve ? Yes the GTR is fast and (relatively) cheap but is that enough ? Will it still be desirable (and therefore valuable) in 3 years time. Or 10 years ? The Porsche will !!

[StuH]

Adam B said:

I am sure you would get a different response on a GTR forum but easiest decision in the world for me.

997 better looking, no comparison in interior quality, and GTR just looks bloody huge

The size is the other problem, placing it accurately and pressing on on choppy back roads is no fun at all - you're forever backing off. I think if you're in the market for a GT3 alternative and all the compromises that entails, then a GTR is a good buy so it depends what you want to use it for.

[gregf40]

I have owned several Porsche's (GT2/3's etc) in the past and have driven a friends 997 Turbo extensively - although never owned one.

For me I would go for the GTR. I have an R35 and also an R35 Nismo and they are just ridiculously fast and so rewarding to drive.

Anyone that says they feel like a PlayStation hasn't driven one properly.

Personally I love the way the GTR looks but agree the exterior and interior is not to all tastes - and the interior is certainly not as 'nice' a place to be as a 997...although it has never bothered me in the slightest.

[anissut]

I have been searching for the perfect daily driver for a while now (maybe there isn't such a thing?). I live in London but do a couple of Euro trips, car meets etc. where I get to enjoy a car. I want something very fast but at the same time comfortable but still needs to behave like a sports car so not interested in cars like AMG Mercs, Bentleys etc. At the same time I don't have an unlimited budget. The GTR and Turbo S both stand out as with their massive torque in a turbocharged car they are effortless to drive day to day. At the same time once you get on a decent road they are also fun and very fast. Ride compliance is important but not Bentley/Merc style but acceptable enough to not annoy me daily. My 991 50th was great as a DD but ultimately for me it lacked power and the lack of torque comparatively doesn't suit what I want from a daily. So my conclusion was the GTR or Turbo S. The 991 TTS is a bit high price wise at the moment so hence the 997 TTS against the GTR.

[Far Cough]

In a GTR people will let you out at junctions and give you a hearty wave. In a Porsche , they will not and then give you the finger or the coffee bean shaker !!

Horses for courses , drive both and see which one gives you the fizz ! Having just read Evo mag when they did a comparison and in that comparison the 991 Turbo lost out the GTR on pure driving feel. I cant imagine the 997 turbo would be that much different. Both nice cars but I think the Porsche has to be driven at ridiculous speeds for it to come alive and give the same driving thrills. Agree the Porsche has a way better interior. Had a GTR for 2 years before moving into a GT3 which is not the turbo but interior the same etc etc.

If trackdays are your bag the Porsche is way better at soaking the punishment up than the GTR. Nice position to be in.

[IMI A]

anissut said:

I have been searching for the perfect daily driver for a while now (maybe there isn't such a thing?). I live in London but do a couple of Euro trips, car meets etc. where I get to enjoy a car. I want something very fast but at the same time comfortable but still needs to behave like a sports car so not interested in cars like AMG Mercs, Bentleys etc. At the same time I don't have an unlimited budget. The GTR and Turbo S both stand out as with their massive torque in a turbocharged car they are effortless to drive day to day. At the same time once you get on a decent road they are also fun and very fast. Ride compliance is important but not Bentley/Merc style but acceptable enough to not annoy me daily. My 991 50th was great as a DD but ultimately for me it lacked power and the lack of torque comparatively doesn't suit what I want from a daily. So my conclusion was the GTR or Turbo S. The 991 TTS is a bit high price wise at the moment so hence the 997 TTS against the GTR.

Not sure I'd jump out of a 991 50th anniversary for either of them lol! What were you driving before the 991? I drove a 991 C2S and thought it was pretty rapid in full attack mode! Doubt there'd be much in it on a typical UK b road between any of those cars.

[Mark A S]

A VERY nice choice to have.

IMO, I would go and test drive both, your soon make you mind up. Whilst the GTR is probably the performance car bargain of this century, I have spoken to a few owners and parts etc can be VERY expensive, much more so than a sensible Porsche indy.
I thought about one before I bought my 996t but it was just too big and too many “driver aids” to my liking, nevertheless a Very impressive car especially considering its weight, defies all the laws of physics

[Skyman]

The GTR is certainly a big car, but to a large extent one which also shrinks around you once on the move. My use is largely on the superb French A and D roads, which do not show up the limitations of the car's size. It is not a perfect tool for the back lanes though. But every journey in it is an event.

[StuH]

anissut said:

I have been searching for the perfect daily driver for a while now (maybe there isn't such a thing?). I live in London but do a couple of Euro trips, car meets etc. where I get to enjoy a car. I want something very fast but at the same time comfortable but still needs to behave like a sports car so not interested in cars like AMG Mercs, Bentleys etc. At the same time I don't have an unlimited budget. The GTR and Turbo S both stand out as with their massive torque in a turbocharged car they are effortless to drive day to day. At the same time once you get on a decent road they are also fun and very fast. Ride compliance is important but not Bentley/Merc style but acceptable enough to not annoy me daily. My 991 50th was great as a DD but ultimately for me it lacked power and the lack of torque comparatively doesn't suit what I want from a daily. So my conclusion was the GTR or Turbo S. The 991 TTS is a bit high price wise at the moment so hence the 997 TTS against the GTR.

I think as a DD in London the GTR is a non-starter as the ride will be awful in stop/start traffic. Get a test drive and see what you think?

[gregf40]

Mark A S said:

A VERY nice choice to have.

IMO, I would go and test drive both, your soon make you mind up. Whilst the GTR is probably the performance car bargain of this century, I have spoken to a few owners and parts etc can be VERY expensive, much more so than a sensible Porsche indy.
I thought about one before I bought my 996t but it was just too big and too many “driver aids” to my liking, nevertheless a Very impressive car especially considering its weight, defies all the laws of physics

If you take to a Nissan HPC then prices are astronomical. If you go to Litchfield or Severn Valley then prices are much more palatable (and do not harm resale value either).

I've had mine since June 2009 and have literally had nothing go wrong in 30k miles - just routine servicing.

Factor in the fact I paid 54k for it brand new and it's been the second cheapest car to own per mile...after the F40

[Skyman]

It is worth bearing in mind that for new cars, Nissan will sell you a three year service package for £599. Got that included foc in my new car purchase.

[SnoopD]

I've owned both a new R35 GTR & a 997 Turbo.

Both your possible purchases are awesome cars. The GTR does feel more kit car to me. You get thrown back in your seat more as it is marginally quicker than the Turbo S. Agreed with some other comments, the outside of the GTR is impressive but the inside is not very good quality. The GTR will have the harder ride & you hear more rattles etc in it, but I happily enjoyed it as a daily. The Turbo S is better build quality, it's more refined, in many people's eyes is the true supercar & was obviously worth double the price new. I also like the fact it only needs a service every 2 years

Yes, take them both for a spin. Out of choice I think I'd go for the Turbo S.

[Skyman]

MY14 onwards cars have leather dash and no rattles. Build quality is much improved over earlier cars, and seats which better the 911 by a country mile.

[peterpeter]

deffo worth looking at the latest gen GTR

ive owned many porsches and still own a couple now, but have had 3 GTRs- an 09, a12 and just got a 15

the interior finish/ quality/ leather is way better on the recent car. the ride in comfort mode is also miles softer than the 12 even - they have really nailed it this time round.-

with 3 years free servicing, 3 years warranty and 2.9% apr- it was a no brainer to get into a new one

its also a fabulous drive and i rate the drive better than the 997 turbo - far more involving imo..

great choice to have...