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Bonjour
I've just got a 996 Targa - 53 plate! Love it
However, problem - Brakes! I need to replace the pads and the discs, according to my local porsche garage.
1600! Not too much of a problem, but was wondering what people think about RPM Technik, read a lot about their CSR upgrade, any experiences on PH?
Any other specialist worth consulting?
Thanks!
I've just got a 996 Targa - 53 plate! Love it
However, problem - Brakes! I need to replace the pads and the discs, according to my local porsche garage.
1600! Not too much of a problem, but was wondering what people think about RPM Technik, read a lot about their CSR upgrade, any experiences on PH?
Any other specialist worth consulting?
Thanks!
Hi fellas,
Ahh - well it was Porsche Centre East London, the quote was done after a service.
The brakes if I'm honest aren't brilliant - I have to pump very hard to get anything and with a car of that capability the whole system needs to get done,
What do you guys think I should do? Want a Porsche specialist - am I just paying for the name?
If you know anyone it'll be great! Aberdeen is a tad bit hard - but may be a good road trip - lol!
G
Ahh - well it was Porsche Centre East London, the quote was done after a service.
The brakes if I'm honest aren't brilliant - I have to pump very hard to get anything and with a car of that capability the whole system needs to get done,
What do you guys think I should do? Want a Porsche specialist - am I just paying for the name?
If you know anyone it'll be great! Aberdeen is a tad bit hard - but may be a good road trip - lol!
G
Ganan said:
Hi fellas,
Ahh - well it was Porsche Centre East London, the quote was done after a service.
The brakes if I'm honest aren't brilliant - I have to pump very hard to get anything and with a car of that capability the whole system needs to get done,
What do you guys think I should do? Want a Porsche specialist - am I just paying for the name?
If you know anyone it'll be great! Aberdeen is a tad bit hard - but may be a good road trip - lol!
G
Similar quote from the Porsche Centre (Glasgow in my case) to do all four on my '99 Boxster. So, you know, about a quarter of the value of the car.Ahh - well it was Porsche Centre East London, the quote was done after a service.
The brakes if I'm honest aren't brilliant - I have to pump very hard to get anything and with a car of that capability the whole system needs to get done,
What do you guys think I should do? Want a Porsche specialist - am I just paying for the name?
If you know anyone it'll be great! Aberdeen is a tad bit hard - but may be a good road trip - lol!
G
Decided to tackle the fronts myself and for time reasons got a local Indy to do the rears. Indy charged £360 all-in for the rear axle. Worth scoping out an Indy IMO.
WinstonWolf said:
Are you used to Porsche brakes? They always need a good squeeze and the brakes are always worn according to OPCs 
It's funny you should mention this. It has taken me a little while to work it out on my 996. With my Westfield it was obvious because there was zero assistance. The 996 still has that initial bite you want for normal traffic driving but a proper stop just requires a bigger push than my BMW of a similar era.
I also thought maybe I wasn't used to the feel - but then my mate who has a 997 drove it and said it was a bit unnerving.
I genuinely do want to go with porsche products as all the recipes of the car have been porsche through and through.
I'll ring around and report back how much I can get them done for
But 1600 is a bit ridiculous! Allow that - lol
I genuinely do want to go with porsche products as all the recipes of the car have been porsche through and through.
I'll ring around and report back how much I can get them done for
But 1600 is a bit ridiculous! Allow that - lol
EGTE_RPF said:
£1600?
That's way over the top.
Porsche front disks are 91.50+VAT each, Pads £88+VAT., Sensors and damping plates 81+VAT - so fronts are about £400.
Not a huge job at all. Sounds at least double what it should be......
Indeed, not a huge job and a relatively easy DIY. Except.....when a caliper bolt shears off whilst trying to remove it which means having to drill out what's left and put a helicoil in. Been there and done it! Well known for it to happen on a 986/996.That's way over the top.
Porsche front disks are 91.50+VAT each, Pads £88+VAT., Sensors and damping plates 81+VAT - so fronts are about £400.
Not a huge job at all. Sounds at least double what it should be......
Edh - Deffo rust on inside!
The car is a 53 plate and has 40k on the clock - it barely gets used.
So I was quoted £1217 by RPM Technik. Spoke to Lydia who was great and reassured me about their work. To be honest, you just have to open a copy of EVO to find out about their CSR's.
I'm probably going to book it in later this week. I'll let you guys know how it goes!
G
The car is a 53 plate and has 40k on the clock - it barely gets used.
So I was quoted £1217 by RPM Technik. Spoke to Lydia who was great and reassured me about their work. To be honest, you just have to open a copy of EVO to find out about their CSR's.
I'm probably going to book it in later this week. I'll let you guys know how it goes!
G
As a typical northerner its staggering!
But then someone back in '99 paid £65000 for my car new. That would have bought a nice house up here!
I once read somewhere that a 996 cost something like 10% more to build than a 986, but they charged 50% more for the 996. On those terms the Boxster is much better value for money but the buying decision isn't taken on value for money at all.
Some people get a lot of value from buying "the best", and knowing their car is the best it possibly can be - money is largely irrelevant to that decision either because they have plenty of it or they value that above other things. To uphold that in total certainty (unless you are Ed China) you have to give the OPC whatever they ask for.
You and I know those discs and pads at £350 are just as good and well fitted as the OPC at £1600. But to some people the value is not in the discs and pads.
But then someone back in '99 paid £65000 for my car new. That would have bought a nice house up here!
I once read somewhere that a 996 cost something like 10% more to build than a 986, but they charged 50% more for the 996. On those terms the Boxster is much better value for money but the buying decision isn't taken on value for money at all.
Some people get a lot of value from buying "the best", and knowing their car is the best it possibly can be - money is largely irrelevant to that decision either because they have plenty of it or they value that above other things. To uphold that in total certainty (unless you are Ed China) you have to give the OPC whatever they ask for.
You and I know those discs and pads at £350 are just as good and well fitted as the OPC at £1600. But to some people the value is not in the discs and pads.
My brakes were bloody awful on my 996 C4 when i first got it (60-70% worn discs and EBC reds). I bought a full set of discs and pads from design 911 (their supposedly OE equivalent stuff) £400 discs and pads/shims and sensors. all the stuff came in boxes from a company called 'All Brake Systems' - Dutch i think.
Discs look to the the same as the normal pagid jobbies, but the pads..hmmm, not sure about these.
fitted it all myself, took around 4 hours (siezed disc retaining bolts had to be drilled), checked the pistons were all free to move, front ones were good, rears were a little sticky but freed up quite well after a few rounds of pumping out and pushing back in. Didn't change fulid as it had been done around 15 months previous at ninemeister.
Anyway, on the road a noticable improvement on inital bite and stopping power, however, i took it round castle combe and brake fluid boiled, pads faded spongy pedal then rock hard, the fluid expanded so much it started weeping out of top of the resevior, terrible performance.
So, now i have poor brakes again, i think the lesson is here, use high temp brake fluid (top quality stuff) and only decent pads. Will be trying ferodo DS2500 or Pagid track pads, performance friction stuff sounds great and comes highly recommended but i find it really hard to justify £400 for just a full set of pads to cover the occasional TD.
Discs look to the the same as the normal pagid jobbies, but the pads..hmmm, not sure about these.
fitted it all myself, took around 4 hours (siezed disc retaining bolts had to be drilled), checked the pistons were all free to move, front ones were good, rears were a little sticky but freed up quite well after a few rounds of pumping out and pushing back in. Didn't change fulid as it had been done around 15 months previous at ninemeister.
Anyway, on the road a noticable improvement on inital bite and stopping power, however, i took it round castle combe and brake fluid boiled, pads faded spongy pedal then rock hard, the fluid expanded so much it started weeping out of top of the resevior, terrible performance.
So, now i have poor brakes again, i think the lesson is here, use high temp brake fluid (top quality stuff) and only decent pads. Will be trying ferodo DS2500 or Pagid track pads, performance friction stuff sounds great and comes highly recommended but i find it really hard to justify £400 for just a full set of pads to cover the occasional TD.
pat_y said:
.... however, i took it round castle combe and brake fluid boiled, pads faded spongy pedal then rock hard, the fluid expanded so much it started weeping out of top of the resevior, terrible performance.
So, now i have poor brakes again, i think the lesson is here, use high temp brake fluid (top quality stuff) and only decent pads. Will be trying ferodo DS2500 or Pagid track pads, performance friction stuff sounds great and comes highly recommended but i find it really hard to justify £400 for just a full set of pads to cover the occasional TD.
Cheap road pads work well on the road..less well on the track, not a massive surpriseSo, now i have poor brakes again, i think the lesson is here, use high temp brake fluid (top quality stuff) and only decent pads. Will be trying ferodo DS2500 or Pagid track pads, performance friction stuff sounds great and comes highly recommended but i find it really hard to justify £400 for just a full set of pads to cover the occasional TD.
OE Textar pads are not that bad actually. All this depends, to some extent, on how you use your brakes on the track..
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