Oh dear - put a suitcase in the back of my GT3
Discussion
Upnorthgt3 said:
I've recently sold my older suitcase and bought a newer suitcase and think that the stability of the newer case is much superior as it doesn't hunt out the ruts in the floor of the baggage collection lounge like the old one did, which would literally jump from one grove to another - you needed to be on top of your game to control it, but the feel through the handle was superb.
It was a toss-up though whether to keep hold of the older suitcase as the value of the suitcase is obviously a very important consideration, but in the end it was the prospect of the looming £10k refresh that the case would require shortly on new casters and bearings etc that swung the deal.........................
Certainly the new suitcases have all but eliminated the understeer found in the earlier models.It was a toss-up though whether to keep hold of the older suitcase as the value of the suitcase is obviously a very important consideration, but in the end it was the prospect of the looming £10k refresh that the case would require shortly on new casters and bearings etc that swung the deal.........................
sidicks said:
Upnorthgt3 said:
I've recently sold my older suitcase and bought a newer suitcase and think that the stability of the newer case is much superior as it doesn't hunt out the ruts in the floor of the baggage collection lounge like the old one did, which would literally jump from one grove to another - you needed to be on top of your game to control it, but the feel through the handle was superb.
It was a toss-up though whether to keep hold of the older suitcase as the value of the suitcase is obviously a very important consideration, but in the end it was the prospect of the looming £10k refresh that the case would require shortly on new casters and bearings etc that swung the deal.........................
Certainly the new suitcases have all but eliminated the understeer found in the earlier models.It was a toss-up though whether to keep hold of the older suitcase as the value of the suitcase is obviously a very important consideration, but in the end it was the prospect of the looming £10k refresh that the case would require shortly on new casters and bearings etc that swung the deal.........................
I've also got issues with the handling of my new case...
The catastrophic understeer I've been experiencing both on carpet and wooden surfaces has quite frankly been a bit of a shocker. So much so that I'm too frightened to take it out for fear that I might understeer into the expensive whiskey bottles in duty free. I've already suffered one embarrassing incident where understeer forced me off my chosen line and into a shagpile border. I had to be towed out of that. Oh, the ignominy.
One contributing factor may be that it came on crappy Dunlop rubber, even though I'd requested the more grippy Pilot Sport Cup 2. The OPC didn't seem to care much when I raised this issue with them and just pointed to the small print on the order form where it states that for 'technical' reasons it is not possible to supply specific brands of tyre. Needless to say, I've issued them with a LOI that I might come and smash up their showroom with a tank.
I've also had to cancel two holidays in very exotic and expensive locations that only GT suitcase owning types can afford. I will not name the areas here as I don't want to risk a deluge of non-GT suitcase owning plebs descending upon them and ruining it for us all. I'm not going now as I felt it would be just too dangerous to try to tackle the challenging mountain hairpins and passes with such a dangerous setup.
I haven't decided whether to flip it on just yet, but if the new camber / castor settings that I should be able to achieve with the adjustable titanium-infused-leather toe/drop links I've ordered don't improve it, then I'll look to sell.
I should point out that I'm already running it with the medium handle setting at the front and the rear stiffened up to its firmest to try and dial out the understeer a tadge. This has worked for others that I've read about on a very knowledgeable internet forum for experts and right tits alike. Unfortunately it has not worked for me and the handling is worse than my CR case which is still just proverbial bees knees and better than sliced bread.
I may try to raise it a nadge at the front and lower the leather/alcantara/contrast stitched flap at the back for some better downforce (which can help according to the knowledgeable internet forum).
Anyway, if I do choose to flip it, I know it will command at least +40% overs as it is finished in that exclusive Crocodile Pi$$flap finish. And they aren't two-a-penny.
The catastrophic understeer I've been experiencing both on carpet and wooden surfaces has quite frankly been a bit of a shocker. So much so that I'm too frightened to take it out for fear that I might understeer into the expensive whiskey bottles in duty free. I've already suffered one embarrassing incident where understeer forced me off my chosen line and into a shagpile border. I had to be towed out of that. Oh, the ignominy.
One contributing factor may be that it came on crappy Dunlop rubber, even though I'd requested the more grippy Pilot Sport Cup 2. The OPC didn't seem to care much when I raised this issue with them and just pointed to the small print on the order form where it states that for 'technical' reasons it is not possible to supply specific brands of tyre. Needless to say, I've issued them with a LOI that I might come and smash up their showroom with a tank.
I've also had to cancel two holidays in very exotic and expensive locations that only GT suitcase owning types can afford. I will not name the areas here as I don't want to risk a deluge of non-GT suitcase owning plebs descending upon them and ruining it for us all. I'm not going now as I felt it would be just too dangerous to try to tackle the challenging mountain hairpins and passes with such a dangerous setup.
I haven't decided whether to flip it on just yet, but if the new camber / castor settings that I should be able to achieve with the adjustable titanium-infused-leather toe/drop links I've ordered don't improve it, then I'll look to sell.
I should point out that I'm already running it with the medium handle setting at the front and the rear stiffened up to its firmest to try and dial out the understeer a tadge. This has worked for others that I've read about on a very knowledgeable internet forum for experts and right tits alike. Unfortunately it has not worked for me and the handling is worse than my CR case which is still just proverbial bees knees and better than sliced bread.
I may try to raise it a nadge at the front and lower the leather/alcantara/contrast stitched flap at the back for some better downforce (which can help according to the knowledgeable internet forum).
Anyway, if I do choose to flip it, I know it will command at least +40% overs as it is finished in that exclusive Crocodile Pi$$flap finish. And they aren't two-a-penny.
GaryF said:
I've also got issues with the handling of my new case...
The catastrophic understeer I've been experiencing both on carpet and wooden surfaces has quite frankly been a bit of a shocker. So much so that I'm too frightened to take it out for fear that I might understeer into the expensive whiskey bottles in duty free. I've already suffered one embarrassing incident where understeer forced me off my chosen line and into a shagpile border. I had to be towed out of that. Oh, the ignominy.
One contributing factor may be that it came on crappy Dunlop rubber, even though I'd requested the more grippy Pilot Sport Cup 2. The OPC didn't seem to care much when I raised this issue with them and just pointed to the small print on the order form where it states that for 'technical' reasons it is not possible to supply specific brands of tyre. Needless to say, I've issued them with a LOI that I might come and smash up their showroom with a tank.
I've also had to cancel two holidays in very exotic and expensive locations that only GT suitcase owning types can afford. I will not name the areas here as I don't want to risk a deluge of non-GT suitcase owning plebs descending upon them and ruining it for us all. I'm not going now as I felt it would be just too dangerous to try to tackle the challenging mountain hairpins and passes with such a dangerous setup.
I haven't decided whether to flip it on just yet, but if the new camber / castor settings that I should be able to achieve with the adjustable titanium-infused-leather toe/drop links I've ordered don't improve it, then I'll look to sell.
I should point out that I'm already running it with the medium handle setting at the front and the rear stiffened up to its firmest to try and dial out the understeer a tadge. This has worked for others that I've read about on a very knowledgeable internet forum for experts and right tits alike. Unfortunately it has not worked for me and the handling is worse than my CR case which is still just proverbial bees knees and better than sliced bread.
I may try to raise it a nadge at the front and lower the leather/alcantara/contrast stitched flap at the back for some better downforce (which can help according to the knowledgeable internet forum).
Anyway, if I do choose to flip it, I know it will command at least +40% overs as it is finished in that exclusive Crocodile Pi$$flap finish. And they aren't two-a-penny.
There's clearly something wrong with your set-up - I suggest you take it to Chris at CentreGravity to perform a full geometry check and get it back to manufacturer's spec.The catastrophic understeer I've been experiencing both on carpet and wooden surfaces has quite frankly been a bit of a shocker. So much so that I'm too frightened to take it out for fear that I might understeer into the expensive whiskey bottles in duty free. I've already suffered one embarrassing incident where understeer forced me off my chosen line and into a shagpile border. I had to be towed out of that. Oh, the ignominy.
One contributing factor may be that it came on crappy Dunlop rubber, even though I'd requested the more grippy Pilot Sport Cup 2. The OPC didn't seem to care much when I raised this issue with them and just pointed to the small print on the order form where it states that for 'technical' reasons it is not possible to supply specific brands of tyre. Needless to say, I've issued them with a LOI that I might come and smash up their showroom with a tank.
I've also had to cancel two holidays in very exotic and expensive locations that only GT suitcase owning types can afford. I will not name the areas here as I don't want to risk a deluge of non-GT suitcase owning plebs descending upon them and ruining it for us all. I'm not going now as I felt it would be just too dangerous to try to tackle the challenging mountain hairpins and passes with such a dangerous setup.
I haven't decided whether to flip it on just yet, but if the new camber / castor settings that I should be able to achieve with the adjustable titanium-infused-leather toe/drop links I've ordered don't improve it, then I'll look to sell.
I should point out that I'm already running it with the medium handle setting at the front and the rear stiffened up to its firmest to try and dial out the understeer a tadge. This has worked for others that I've read about on a very knowledgeable internet forum for experts and right tits alike. Unfortunately it has not worked for me and the handling is worse than my CR case which is still just proverbial bees knees and better than sliced bread.
I may try to raise it a nadge at the front and lower the leather/alcantara/contrast stitched flap at the back for some better downforce (which can help according to the knowledgeable internet forum).
Anyway, if I do choose to flip it, I know it will command at least +40% overs as it is finished in that exclusive Crocodile Pi$$flap finish. And they aren't two-a-penny.
braddo said:
Meanwhile, there is a little British manufacturer doing stuff with lightweight plastic bodies and great handling.
Not the last word in refinement, but lots and lots of fun!!
Does look like fun, but oh the depreciation will keep me from pulling the Trigger on that one, I'll stick to Porsche suitcases only. There are apparently discussions about the newer versions lacking soul and beeing equipped with the wrong gears though...Not the last word in refinement, but lots and lots of fun!!
Is it worth the long distance trek to Hartech for a rebuild on this, with a view to then taking out their warranty plan? I've read the pages and pages of highly informative posts from them on the root causes of this problem (the glue used in the handle construction either was or wasn't loctite, as I recall) and they seem to know their stuff. I think if I were buying one second hand I might actually consciously look for one they had rebuilt rather than take a chance on one that hadn't failed yet...
Matisse said:
Is it worth the long distance trek to Hartech for a rebuild on this, with a view to then taking out their warranty plan? I've read the pages and pages of highly informative posts from them on the root causes of this problem (the glue used in the handle construction either was or wasn't loctite, as I recall) and they seem to know their stuff. I think if I were buying one second hand I might actually consciously look for one they had rebuilt rather than take a chance on one that hadn't failed yet...
I've just sent my handle off to Royal for an alcantara retrim including the addition of a yellow centre marker. I didn't think to proactively add strengthening ahead of any actual failure.I've gone for the centre marker in the hope that it may help determine at a glance which way the wheels are pointing when fighting the oversteery attitude I hope to achieve courtesy of the the new castor angles available with the new titanium-infused leather adjustable toe links that I mentioned in a previous very interesting and entertaining post.
I hope to also have some auto-lift capability added retrospectively to deal with the awkward ruts and tricky compressions found on some far-flung circuits / runways and those difficult to negotiate high cabin lockers. Can't decide between a mechanical lift setup or just another butler. A fully mechanical setup would I think provide more feel and avoid adding another layer of seperatation between man and machine.
I've decided to put my personal thoughts here on this respected internet forum so I can receive insightful and highly condescending contradictory feedback on which setup would be better and to hear of alternatives to GT cases that others have tried which are more fire retardant and superior in every way (largely based on imbalanced opinions due to their OPC refusing to sell them one of said GT cases.)
Edited by GaryF on Friday 28th August 13:36
GaryF said:
I've decided to put my personal thoughts here on this respected internet forum so I can receive insightful and highly condescending contradictory feedback on which setup would be better and to hear of alternatives to GT cases that others have tried which are more fire retardant and superior in every way (largely based on imbalanced opinions due to their OPC refusing to sell them one of said GT cases.)
Alternatives such as this white Italian offering...?
Never you mind said:
I see the GT suitcase has fire issues.
That's the same one that was on Rennlist. It apparently wasn't run in properly and was also crashed into shoe shine kiosk before this apparent 'failure'.It's an isolated incident that wasn't caused by faulty manufacture and will do nothing to curb future values. We will continue to see prices rise.
There was another Flame Red / Charcoal Grey one posted on here recently but it had been flipped several times before bursting into flames so it was declared 'only fair' that it should engage self destruct mode in an effort to "get out of the garage more and meet like-minded enthusiast types".
Just had a PM from a dealer offering me £137 for my suitcase
If I sell I'll need to doctor the receipt as I only paid £15 from Primark
I'll need a good scanner to hide the fudge but thankfully Primark and Porsche both start with P
Not sure what to do as Primark don't make them anymore
Might keep it and only use it for special holidays to Benidorm
If I sell I'll need to doctor the receipt as I only paid £15 from Primark
I'll need a good scanner to hide the fudge but thankfully Primark and Porsche both start with P
Not sure what to do as Primark don't make them anymore
Might keep it and only use it for special holidays to Benidorm
Matisse said:
Alternatives such as this white Italian offering...?
I haven't tried one with 5 wheels before. Is there any perceptible improvement to low speed ride quality? What is the impact on handling over the choppier stuff?Not sure about the colour of the one you have pictured. Some consider white to be a 'GT case' colour, but I think it will be very hard to keep clean, considering all the scorch marks it will attract.
GaryF said:
Matisse said:
Alternatives such as this white Italian offering...?
I haven't tried one with 5 wheels before. Is there any perceptible improvement to low speed ride quality? What is the impact on handling over the choppier stuff?Not sure about the colour of the one you have pictured. Some consider white to be a 'GT case' colour, but I think it will be very hard to keep clean, considering all the scorch marks it will attract.
GaryF said:
I haven't tried one with 5 wheels before. Is there any perceptible improvement to low speed ride quality? What is the impact on handling over the choppier stuff?
Not sure about the colour of the one you have pictured. Some consider white to be a 'GT case' colour, but I think it will be very hard to keep clean, considering all the scorch marks it will attract.
You can get some Motorsport stickers which look good on the white ones!Not sure about the colour of the one you have pictured. Some consider white to be a 'GT case' colour, but I think it will be very hard to keep clean, considering all the scorch marks it will attract.
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