Neglected super yachts

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silverthorn2151

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179 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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I have been a regular visitor to Juan les Pins over the last 15 years or so. I have always enjoyed a stroll around the marina there playing the fantasy which boat game.

When we first started going there was a yacht that stood out as looking most sophisticated. A Riva somethingortheother called La Diva.

Its always been there but is now moved to one of the outermost berths and is really looking tired. Clearly not had any maintenance for some time. Frankly it looked a little like one of the bohemian ladies ones sees on the Cote D'azur slightly wrinkled but you can tell they were glamorous once. The varnish is peeling, the Red Ensign faded and tattered and something not good about the hull finish.

I was given to wonder at what point these sort of things become an uneconomic prospect to restore. It must cost a bob or 2 just to keep it there.

Pics below to illustrate the point and I wonder, any of the knowledgeable types here know anything of her. Just who was La Diva!





Le TVR

3,092 posts

251 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Its the same story at several marinas along the cote d'azur,Villeneuve Loubet, Antibes etc...
Quite a few for sale signs to point where if you buy the berth they throw in the boat for free. Although a cursory look under the water line tells you its already a basket case frown

sicasey

637 posts

161 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I find the whole concept of an abandoned super yacht fascinating.

Would love to see more pics.

Simpo Two

85,323 posts

265 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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silverthorn2151 said:
Just who was La Diva!
Perhaps the woman who cleaned him out in a multi-million pound divorce settlement!

pidsy

7,979 posts

157 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Love finding stories like this.

Any idea what she'd be worth if fixed up?

tim0409

4,386 posts

159 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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A quick google suggests it is/was owned by Lebanese arms dealer Ziad Takieddine -

"A controversial fixer for arms deals linked to an alleged corruption scandal that engulfed Nicolas Sarkozy has been refused entry to Britain.

Ziad Takieddine, a Lebanese businessman who recently confessed to paying kick-backs to an aide of the former French President, was stopped at St Pancras station in central London on Tuesday afternoon.

The 63-year-old, who has also made extraordinary claims that the late Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi paid up to £40m towards Mr Sarkozy’s successful 2007 presidential election bid, was reportedly questioned by officers from the British Transport Police before being returned to France on the Eurostar.

French media reported the arms dealer, who was banned from leaving France pending the conclusion of several investigations into his affairs, was trying to visit his children in London for New Year’s Eve.

Mr Takieddine went through an acrimonious divorce from his British-born ex-wife, Nicola Johnson, 52, three years ago. One of their disputed assets was Warwick House, in Holland Park, west London, estimated to be worth more than £17m."


https://www.frenchleaks.com/A-fortune-in-property-...


In an ongoing judicial investigation into suspected illegal political party funding in France via a sale of submarines to Pakistan, several witnesses have identified Franco-Lebanese businessman and arms dealer Ziad Takieddine (photo) as being a principle intermediary in the deal. Earlier this week, Mediapart revealed his closeness to key members of French President Nicolas Sarkozy's inner circle. In this second report, Mediapart can disclose how Takieddine pays no income tax nor wealth tax in France, despite being domiciled in the country and where, according to documents signed by his hand, he has a wealth of 40 million euros. Fabrice Arfi and Karl Laske investigate.

gvij

363 posts

124 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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That doesn't look like a superyacht to me at least but a small boat. How much would that be new 300k , 500k?

slomax

6,655 posts

192 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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gvij said:
That doesn't look like a superyacht to me at least but a small boat. How much would that be new 300k , 500k?
Looks about 70-75ft to me.

If you wanted to buy a new yacht from the likes of princess/sunseeker today you'd probably be looking at around £3m for a flybridge boat of that size with a decent spec.

silverthorn2151

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6,298 posts

179 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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It's certainly dwarfed by many but is certainly not a small boat but any stretch.

I shouldn't think you can buy a rubber dinghy by Riva for £300k.

Neilstrom

109 posts

142 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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silverthorn2151 said:
It's certainly dwarfed by many but is certainly not a small boat but any stretch.

I shouldn't think you can buy a rubber dinghy by Riva for £300k.
No, but you can buy a 30ft Riva tender for around that. Bargain!

wildcat45

8,072 posts

189 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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I agree with the fascination of faded glamour. Do these things ever get broken up?

I always thought a super yacht was something the size of a warship.

Talking of which, what became if that plan to convert two former Dutch frigates (Kortenesr Class) into super yachts?

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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wildcat45 said:
.....what became if that plan to convert two former Dutch frigates (Kortenesr Class) into super yachts?
Yas is one such project, completed about 6 months ago. Dreadful thing:

http://www.superyachts.com/motor-yacht-4729/yas.ht...

iphonedyou

9,240 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Uncle of Amal Clooney, too. Small world.

wildcat45

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189 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Boatbuoy said:
Yas is one such project, completed about 6 months ago. Dreadful thing:

http://www.superyachts.com/motor-yacht-4729/yas.ht...
Oh I dunno. A better way to recycle an old warship than to rip her to bits on a Turkish beach. You can just see her hull lines still. It doesn't look like they retained the Rolls Royce Olympus/Tyne engines. That's a shame but I understand why.

What I don'hegel is why they converted an old ship. Surely with all the conversion work needed it would have been cheaper just to build a new vessel.

silverthorn2151

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179 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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I accept that La Diva doesn't fit the PH definition of super yacht. However, it look pretty bloody super to me.

I remember it seeming very large and impressive when I first strolled around the marina some years ago. Its interesting now to see it next to what I would call BIG day boats, i.e ones without patio doors!

Mind you, I know very little about these things in reality. My only boating experience came in the form of a Simms Super V in 1979/82 off Two Tree Island.

pidsy

7,979 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Have u seen the thread about the salvaged boat on eBay? Now that deserves a place in this thread!!

wildcat45

8,072 posts

189 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Got a link?

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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wildcat45 said:
Got a link?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=191&t=1540138&mid=226856&nmt=Ouch+%2D+can+it+really+be+saved%3F

wildcat45

8,072 posts

189 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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NormalWisdom

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159 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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There's one out of the water in Valetta that belonged to Gadaffi, have a pic at home somewhere, not a super size mind.