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Orangecurry said:
BertBert said:
I didn't have any issues that let me down, but they are old expensive cars that rust a lot!
No - they don't.There are only two potential rust areas
1) around the screens, where a design-fault allows water to sit trapped in a groove (between screen and bodywork) beneath the outer-trim. You can see this quite easily, though not necessarily how extensive the rust is underneath.
2) the rear chassis-legs, where a support-plate has minimal paint protection beneath and yet forms a mud-trap. You can't see this area without taking some of the back of the car off.
Any other rust on a 993 would be due to accident damage and the galvanised coating being 'damaged'.
But do look along the side windows, as water can also sit here if the car has lived outside extensively, though it tends to be the black 'trim' that rusts rather than the bodywork.
Edited by Orangecurry on Tuesday 8th September 08:37
Edited by Wozy68 on Tuesday 8th September 12:20
Wozy68 said:
OC, he just seems to come across as a guy who dislikes the 993. His above comments really seem to make no sense, but just let him get on with it?
Not at all. I liked it, but it was a bit dull. In the context of the OP wanting a bottom of the price range one he will probably end up with rust. Yes it may not be all over the car, but it's certainly in more places that just round the front screen and the rear suspension legs.Edited by Wozy68 on Tuesday 8th September 12:20
I just tell it as I found it.
Bert
BertBert said:
Not at all. I liked it, but it was a bit dull. In the context of the OP wanting a bottom of the price range one he will probably end up with rust. Yes it may not be all over the car, but it's certainly in more places that just round the front screen and the rear suspension legs.
I just tell it as I found it.
Bert
Not sure about rust, but at bottom price he'll probably get a tired car which needs a fair amount spent on it to make it perform as it should. Not really a £25k proposition.I just tell it as I found it.
Bert
To my mind a manual Gen 2 Cayman S/Boxster S would be a far better bet as it'll be a newer car and closer to an Elise dynamically.
Geneve said:
Very fond of the 993s - had two C2s, both bought new, and used as my dailies, with several trips across Europe - no issues.
Drove quite a few 993s, including the Turbo 'S', but interestingly, the two nicest 993s I've ever driven were both C4 Coupes. Although, a few laps with Nick Faure around a wet Castle Combe in an RS takes some beating
My fear for the OP would be the difficulty of finding a really good example for under £36k.
Agree that a Boxster/Cayman might be a safer bet.
V interesting. Would be interested to hear you digress on the c4 bit.Drove quite a few 993s, including the Turbo 'S', but interestingly, the two nicest 993s I've ever driven were both C4 Coupes. Although, a few laps with Nick Faure around a wet Castle Combe in an RS takes some beating
My fear for the OP would be the difficulty of finding a really good example for under £36k.
Agree that a Boxster/Cayman might be a safer bet.
My favourite 993 drive is my 993 c2s manual.
My least favourite was a 993 turbo i drove a while back.
BertBert said:
In the context of the OP wanting a bottom of the price range one he will probably end up with rust. Yes it may not be all over the car, but it's certainly in more places that just round the front screen and the rear suspension legs.
I just tell it as I found it.
Bert
I just tell it as I found it.
Bert
really? Tell it how you found it? So yours was rusting? Shame you bought an accident damaged car where the rust was showing. I guess you didn't get it inspected?Lesson learned eh?
Anybody know the history of this car, seems a bit cheap?
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I think I am getting more confused. Big price difference
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I'm going to go along to the Norfolk/Suffolk club meet tomorrow and have a friendly chat, to gain more opinions and probably even more confusion
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I'm going to go along to the Norfolk/Suffolk club meet tomorrow and have a friendly chat, to gain more opinions and probably even more confusion
Orangecurry said:
really? Tell it how you found it? So yours was rusting? Shame you bought an accident damaged car where the rust was showing. I guess you didn't get it inspected?Lesson learned eh?
No offence, but are you seriously getting the 993 and 996 confused now?
The 993 is the last aircooled 993, so commands a premimum because of this. Most also prefer the looks of the 993, especially in widebody guise.
Jumping from an Elise to a tiptronic 911, prepare to be very, very disappointed. In my opinion, this is the wrong time to satisfy a curiosity about 911s; you should have done that 5 years ago when prices were still linked to value, not hyperbole!
The 993 is the last aircooled 993, so commands a premimum because of this. Most also prefer the looks of the 993, especially in widebody guise.
Jumping from an Elise to a tiptronic 911, prepare to be very, very disappointed. In my opinion, this is the wrong time to satisfy a curiosity about 911s; you should have done that 5 years ago when prices were still linked to value, not hyperbole!
None taken.
No I know the difference and the 993 would be my preferred choice, but funds may point me in the direction of a 996.
I'm not expecting a 911 to feel like an Elise. I'm only expecting to do 3000 miles max a year and just want something that's not going to break the bank to maintain and be a bit more practical, as well as fun.
As mentioned 993 will definitely grow in value and I'm sure in time so will the 996. But the variation in prices of the 996 is a bit baffling.
No I know the difference and the 993 would be my preferred choice, but funds may point me in the direction of a 996.
I'm not expecting a 911 to feel like an Elise. I'm only expecting to do 3000 miles max a year and just want something that's not going to break the bank to maintain and be a bit more practical, as well as fun.
As mentioned 993 will definitely grow in value and I'm sure in time so will the 996. But the variation in prices of the 996 is a bit baffling.
nipod said:
None taken.
No I know the difference and the 993 would be my preferred choice, but funds may point me in the direction of a 996.
I'm not expecting a 911 to feel like an Elise. I'm only expecting to do 3000 miles max a year and just want something that's not going to break the bank to maintain and be a bit more practical, as well as fun.
As mentioned 993 will definitely grow in value and I'm sure in time so will the 996. But the variation in prices of the 996 is a bit baffling.
Some major general assumptions here.No I know the difference and the 993 would be my preferred choice, but funds may point me in the direction of a 996.
I'm not expecting a 911 to feel like an Elise. I'm only expecting to do 3000 miles max a year and just want something that's not going to break the bank to maintain and be a bit more practical, as well as fun.
As mentioned 993 will definitely grow in value and I'm sure in time so will the 996. But the variation in prices of the 996 is a bit baffling.
A 993 at the bottom end of the market could well cost you quite a bit to sort out and maintain. These are now classic cars, which aren't cheap to maintain.
It's not a given that all 993's are going to grow in value from this point. A nice manual 2wd coupe will always be in demand, but Tips/targas/cabs may well drop from their current high prices.
Again running costs usually eat into low depreciation.
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