My 997 GTS, may divide opinion!

[Nimerino]

mischaRS said:

Sorry I was referring to the GTS-they are falling fast residually, an 80,000 miler was offered privately for low 40's recently
All the Cars on offer are artificially priced by OPC' with guarantees to maximise the price
Think about 30-35 K in a couple of years, without OPC protection as long as they are bog standard...

This seems an entirely unfounded statement. I'll admit I have a horse in this race (though I'm in Sweden, mind you), but even if a single car with 80k miles(!) was offered for that sum recently, it represents an outlier rather than a general price development; every other car is around the 60k mark, and are certainly not 'all offered by OPCs'. The fact that OPCs are still buying cars and offering them for sale should bode well for the residuals of the car. The idea that these could be at 30k in two years is possible; no one knows and they are certain to fall harder and faster than the GT3 and the like. But based on the above that's nothing but conjecture.

[Hobo]

Prices don't seem to be going anywhere at present, and we are in winter when prices normally drop somewhat.

As for where values will be in a 2 or 3 years, who knows. As ever, spec/mileage will play an important part in such value. To me, the GTS has to have alcantara interior & the centre lock wheels, to set it apart from a standard carrera 4 with power pack.

[tuffer]

mischaRS said:

Sorry I was referring to the GTS-they are falling fast residually, an 80,000 miler was offered privately for low 40's recently
All the Cars on offer are artificially priced by OPC' with guarantees to maximise the price
Think about 30-35 K in a couple of years, without OPC protection as long as they are bog standard...

I would not describe the GTS as a classic no matter what the spec.

[ted walker]

Does anyone know how many 997 GTS,s were imported and what the split was between 2 and 4wd ??????

[Hobo]

www.howmanyleft.co.uk

[Hobo]

997 GTS (2WD)
2010, Manual, 9
2011, Manual, 90
2010, PDK, 25
2011, PDK, 352

997 GTS (4WD)
2011, Manual, 9
2012, Manual, 14
2011, PDK, 57
2012, PDK, 190

Compared to others;

997 Carrera 2S
2010, Manual, 118
2011, Manual, 45
2010, PDK, 412
2011, PDK, 152

997 Carrera 4S
2011, Manual, 32
2012, Manual, 13
2011, PDK, 153
2012, PDK, 12

997 GT3
2010, Manual, 114
2011, Manual, 9
2012, Manual, 0

997 GT3RS
2010, Manual, 115
2011, Manual, 23
2012, Manual, 1

[Nimerino]

So basically for its last year of production, the GTS was the best-selling 911 derivative. That shouldn't really be a surprise, given that you'd be crazy to opt for a C2S unless you were unusually specific about needing a narrow-bodied car.

[ted walker]

Thanks very much.

[Hobo]

Also shows that a manual GTS4 must be one of the rarest models around.

[Nimerino]

It's also interesting to me that the split very much favours RWD in all types. Here in Sweden the go-to versions are the 4WD (not for me, mind), even though the majority of us don't drive the cars in winter.

[Shiverman]

If you combine the 2wd & 4wd sales together over the 2 years then the total sales at 122 cars makes the GTS manual rarer than the GT3 and GT3RS !

I wonder how many didn't have the rear seats fitted as a no cost option?

It also shows that even in a car that Porsche are pointing in the direction of 'sportier' and 'sitting between the S and GT3' for the ultimate road driving experience, that most customers still buy PDK. I guess it does show very clearly where the market has gone with regards to gearboxes. Does anyone know if this is specific to the UK (and USA) markets or does Europe and ROW buy into the PDK in greater volume as well?

[CGJJ]

OP your car is stunning and in my opinion the question of your taste remains
100% intact.
Wonderful looking Porsche.

[R400C]

OP's car looks great to me. I think that the final touch (and to really set the 'love it or hate it' debate alight) would have been a cocoa rather than black interior.

Not a popular choice for many but I think it can be a classic combination with either a white or GT silver exterior ...

[Porsche911R]

mischaRS said:

Sorry I was referring to the GTS-they are falling fast residually, an 80,000 miler was offered privately for low 40's recently
All the Cars on offer are artificially priced by OPC' with guarantees to maximise the price
Think about 30-35 K in a couple of years, without OPC protection as long as they are bog standard...

Funny reading old stuff :-) a £30k 997 GTS :-) where £70k is entry price now.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 3rd June 13:37

[Adrian-9iafn]

Lovely, It's only the rear Porsche decal I am unsure about. I looked at a similar Singer style Porsche rear decal, but the profile wasn't quite right

My old 991 GTS had the stripe and I did fit the darker rear lights and fitted painted reflectors