Flying Scotsman return

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a boardman

Original Poster:

1,316 posts

200 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Flying Scotsman to start rolling in Jan 2016.

http://www.eastlancsrailway.org.uk/events-activiti...


Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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I want to see that.

hab1966

1,097 posts

212 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Just to let you know that the website is now live for bookings.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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I'll believe it when I see it... how many times before have we heard "it's nearly finished"?

At least with Riley doing the job, it should be reliable...

Ste1987

1,798 posts

106 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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BUMP

The Flying Scotsman has been making its rounds last night. Caught it passing through Leeds but didn't get a video, but here's one from Lancaster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWiRTvALO3M

davebem

746 posts

177 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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If you were a non-train enthusiast at that station and the flying scotsman rolled through in black wartime paint in the night, I cant help think that some people would find that a little spooky?

rs1952

5,247 posts

259 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Wandering off on a tangent, when the 150th anniversary of the Metropolitan Railway was being planned the year before last, they brought in a Beattie Well Tank to run clearance tests between Kensington Olympia and Moorgate. The tests were carried out overnight, but ran late and the engine was still down there when the service trains started early the following morning.

I have read reports that early risers were scrabbling for their camera phones as a steam locomotive of 1870s vintage suddenly appeared out of the tunnel and on the tracks in front of them biggrin



RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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Scotsman's debut was originally scheduled for the 23rd January IIRC, but (surprise surprise) it wasn't ready. Then, it was supposed to go up the S&C, but there's been a big landslip at Appleby, so that line's closed...

StephenP

1,886 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Can anyone point me to a list of times for the ECML run on Thursday 25th February? I think she leaves Kings Cross at 7.30am but not sure when she pass through Grantham.

Rich1973

1,198 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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StephenP said:
Can anyone point me to a list of times for the ECML run on Thursday 25th February? I think she leaves Kings Cross at 7.30am but not sure when she pass through Grantham.
http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs16.htm

No times yet on this site, but its usually pretty good.

StephenP

1,886 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Great, thanks.

Yertis

18,046 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I know it's been said a million times before but why have they painted it black with the 103 number? It should be apple green and 4472 - those elements are very much core to the Flying Scotsman brand and to have deviated from that is pretty dumb thing to have done, especially at 'relaunch'.


Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Black is the undercoat. It is being painted green pretty much as I type. I gather they gave it this number as it was restored to the specification it ran at the end of it's career, where it carried the number 60103. I agree though, it needs to be 4472, however correct or incorrect this is.


Yertis

18,046 posts

266 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Zad said:
Black is the undercoat. It is being painted green pretty much as I type. I gather they gave it this number as it was restored to the specification it ran at the end of it's career, where it carried the number 60103. I agree though, it needs to be 4472, however correct or incorrect this is.

Thanks for that – I'll relax. smile

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Yertis said:
Thanks for that – I'll relax. smile
Except it won't be the Green that you (or I) would prefer, it's going to be the BR Brunswick livery, with smoke defelectors nono

Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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In the light of trackside fires (both real and perceived) caused by steam locos I suspect smoke deflectors are a practical addition to a loco that will be expected to work pretty hard, running all over the country throughout the year. That and all those rich families taking the kids out for the day, who don't realise that burning lumps of rock might generate a strange thing called soot, which has a habit of flying through open windows and ruining your shirt / getting in your eye / setting fire to darling little Jemimah's hairdo.

Yertis

18,046 posts

266 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Boatbuoy said:
Except it won't be the Green that you (or I) would prefer, it's going to be the BR Brunswick livery, with smoke defelectors nono
irked

Dull as...

it's basically a Swindon colour scheme FFS.

Yertis

18,046 posts

266 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Zad said:
In the light of trackside fires (both real and perceived) caused by steam locos I suspect smoke deflectors are a practical addition to a loco that will be expected to work pretty hard, running all over the country throughout the year. That and all those rich families taking the kids out for the day, who don't realise that burning lumps of rock might generate a strange thing called soot, which has a habit of flying through open windows and ruining your shirt / getting in your eye / setting fire to darling little Jemimah's hairdo.
Do smoke deflectors have much impact on either of those problems? 4472 looks like it's on its way to the eastern front with those things bolted on the smokebox.

Still, I didn't donate so I can't comment. I put my money into 71000.

rs1952

5,247 posts

259 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Zad said:
In the light of trackside fires (both real and perceived) caused by steam locos I suspect smoke deflectors are a practical addition to a loco that will be expected to work pretty hard, running all over the country throughout the year. That and all those rich families taking the kids out for the day, who don't realise that burning lumps of rock might generate a strange thing called soot, which has a habit of flying through open windows and ruining your shirt / getting in your eye / setting fire to darling little Jemimah's hairdo.
Smoke deflectors are designed to exactly what it says on the tin - deflect smoke away from what little forward vision the footplate crew has, seeing as there is a bloody great boiler in the way anyway.

Any sparks/ grit/ sundry particles that get thrown out of the chimney are going to get thrown out anyway and, being generally heavier than air, are going to come back down again rather faster. Smoke deflectors make little difference to the laws of gravity.

There are such things as spark arrestors which are essentially similar to a piece of gauze over the chimney, but they do tend to play havoc wth a locomotive's efficiency as they can affect the draw on the fire. In the UK these were generally only used on shunting engines, when where they were shunting there were large amounts of combustible material about the place (eg paper mills)

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Agree that Scotsman needs to be in Apple Green as 4472.

Don't forget, they've only got the deflectors because they've fitted the double chimney as an efficiency measure. A properly-designed single, e.g. a Lempor, would be as efficient as the double Kylchap and not need deflectors.