Good article in Total 911 on rising turbo prices

Good article in Total 911 on rising turbo prices

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nwates

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376 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Prices are rising

Adam B

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253 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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andyglos said:
2009, silver, 48k miles, pcm3, manual, £53k. Leeds.
agree seems a good deal that

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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If so, I got in just in time.
My budget creep on this purchase was worse than ever. I started with an M3 convertible worth £12k and wanted to spend double this on its replacement. A few man math sessions later and my budget is doubled! I had to sell off the family silver to make it all work but the Turbo 'itch' was too strong.
I pushed myself to afford this one so if the prices are truly rising then the new year would have seen me in an N/A car and an opportunity probably missed forever.
I have never really thought of any car as a keeper but this is as close as it gets for me :-)

Shewie

553 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Adam B said:
andyglos said:
2009, silver, 48k miles, pcm3, manual, £53k. Leeds.
agree seems a good deal that
No one will ever buy that, it's got no Sport Chrono!!! biglaugh

andyglos

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201 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Shewie said:
Adam B said:
andyglos said:
2009, silver, 48k miles, pcm3, manual, £53k. Leeds.
agree seems a good deal that
No one will ever buy that, it's got no Sport Chrono!!! biglaugh
Just buy it and install one of these on the dash...............



Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Shewie said:
Adam B said:
andyglos said:
2009, silver, 48k miles, pcm3, manual, £53k. Leeds.
agree seems a good deal that
No one will ever buy that, it's got no Sport Chrono!!! biglaugh
rofl how did I miss that, worth £10k tops. Joking apart I still think that is the only must-have option on turbos and think ocean blue leather won't help. You can retrofit SC but the average punter won't realise that

nwates

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376 posts

183 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Must have sports chrono ...

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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nwates said:
Must have sports chrono ...
I have yet to press the sport button as when I collected the car the roads were wet and greasy. I have not had the chance to drive it since but would appreciate some comments on why the Sport Chrono option is a 'must have'? My car is a 3.6 manual so maybe not so important with manual box or do I have this wrong?

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Because in sport mode you get an extra 50lb/ft of torque for ten seconds

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Adam B said:
Because in sport mode you get an extra 50lb/ft of torque for ten seconds
Ok, so you boot it for ten secs then SC just switches itself off? I guess I need to play with it but I would rather know what to expect so I can concentrate on the rush. I don't relish getting my weekend toy out in crappy weather so it may be a while before it gets to stretch its legs .


lingus75

1,695 posts

221 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Steve Devaney said:
Ok, so you boot it for ten secs then SC just switches itself off? I guess I need to play with it but I would rather know what to expect so I can concentrate on the rush. I don't relish getting my weekend toy out in crappy weather so it may be a while before it gets to stretch its legs .
Yep, I think it just switches off. However, if you keep your 'toe in' for 10 seconds up through the gears you are a braver man than me!

As for going out in poor weather... I was the same, then realised how much the car is costing me just sat there with road tax and insurance and thought what a waste of money (and my wife calling me a pussy for not taking it out in the rain!). The couple of hours or so washing it are more than worth it, and the turbos are so good in the wet. I took me, my wife and 2 children to the Dick Lovett 'cylinder club' on Sunday and had a brilliant morning, and it reminded me of why I bought the car. Getting the family out in it and having some fun!

Incidentally, did anyone else go to the cylinder club? I have never seen such a collection of cars like it! Surprised there are no threads about it. I will upload my pics tomorrow.

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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lingus75 said:
Yep, I think it just switches off. However, if you keep your 'toe in' for 10 seconds up through the gears you are a braver man than me!

As for going out in poor weather... I was the same, then realised how much the car is costing me just sat there with road tax and insurance and thought what a waste of money (and my wife calling me a pussy for not taking it out in the rain!). The couple of hours or so washing it are more than worth it, and the turbos are so good in the wet. I took me, my wife and 2 children to the Dick Lovett 'cylinder club' on Sunday and had a brilliant morning, and it reminded me of why I bought the car. Getting the family out in it and having some fun!

Incidentally, did anyone else go to the cylinder club? I have never seen such a collection of cars like it! Surprised there are no threads about it. I will upload my pics tomorrow.
I am hearing you brother!
1 once did 57 miles Between MOT's in my 964 and that really was a very poor show. I am no fan of taking the toy out of the garage when the sun is not out, just to get it dirty, but I have made a concious effort to hit at least 500 miles a year now.
I made a mistake buying an M3 earlier in the year and had little desire to drive it but the Turbo is a different beast altogether.
My little boy had a peak at the Turbo last week when I had just arrived home in it to tell me "I don't like your new sports cars face Daddy"! Hey ho, that may just come back to haunt him when I leave it in my will to his little sister :-)

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Steve Devaney said:
Ok, so you boot it for ten secs then SC just switches itself off? I guess I need to play with it but I would rather know what to expect so I can concentrate on the rush. I don't relish getting my weekend toy out in crappy weather so it may be a while before it gets to stretch its legs .
SC switches from normal to sport

In sport mode:

it activates the overboost mode (essentially an extra 0.2bar of pressure), which gives you the extra torque for up to 10 seconds
the throttle becomes more responsive
The PSM settings are retracted slightly
PASM switches to harsher Sport setting (which I immediately turn back to normal as sport is too harsh for the road)
and if you made the mistake of buying a tip wink it adjusts the gearbox mappings


None of this "switches off" but the overboost only lasts a max of 10 seconds, then you would have to come off boost before it is available to use again - but even if you were accelerating from standstill, you would be doing well over 100mph by then so 10 seconds should be plenty

as soon as I get in I turn SC to sport and PASM back to normal

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Adam B said:
as soon as I get in I turn SC to sport and PASM back to normal
Along with the heated seat button smilethis sounds like my default plan also

nutbehinddawheel

342 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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As for going out in poor weather... I was the same, then realised how much the car is costing me just sat there with road tax and insurance and thought what a waste of money (and my wife calling me a pussy for not taking it out in the rain!). The couple of hours or so washing it are more than worth it, and the turbos are so good in the wet. I took me, my wife and 2 children to the Dick Lovett 'cylinder club' on Sunday and had a brilliant morning, and it reminded me of why I bought the car. Getting the family out in it and having some fun!

Incidentally, did anyone else go to the cylinder club? I have never seen such a collection of cars like it! Surprised there are no threads about it. I will upload my pics tomorrow.

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I was also at Cylinder Club on Sunday.
Great venue/cars/people/coffee &food.

lukecollins

86 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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When you press the sports mode button it also alters the throttle response from the peddle and stiffens up the suspension additional to the HP and torque increase. All I can say is when you activate the mode and go WOT if feels like having after burners. very addictive lol.

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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What is the general concencuss on quality aftermarket replacement Stainless steel exhaust systems? I would like more drama in the acoustic department but I would hate to somehow cheapen the car. If I go for one, I will keep the original system should I wish to revert back to OE or should I ever come to sell the car on.

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Steve Devaney said:
What is the general concencuss on quality aftermarket replacement Stainless steel exhaust systems? I would like more drama in the acoustic department but I would hate to somehow cheapen the car. If I go for one, I will keep the original system should I wish to revert back to OE or should I ever come to sell the car on.
call 9E

Steve Devaney

714 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Having viewed their website, 9E have a very tidy looking 997.1T in stock with good miles and spec. Would have been on my list to view had my garage not already been filled.
My thoughts on a replacement exhaust are that I would like to have one but being that the car is totally standard, I would not want it to wear the tag of being 'modified'.
Also, I guess insurance companies would need to know that it has a new replacement unit which may up my low premium significantly? Being that it is only a bolt on mod, I may ask my insurance co to quote before deciding which way to go. I would be safe in the knowledge that It can be returned to stock at any stage if I so chose.

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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been thinking the same, I think 9E do their own exhaust, and they know their stuff on turbos

shouldn't bump up insurance too much as not noticeable visually and only a factional bhp increase