991 GT3 - Gen 2

[Slickhillsy]

Spoke to my local Porsche dealer over the weekend and fired off a letter of intent for the gen 2 GT3, dealer said it should be released circa 12 months from now. Question I have to the more experienced Porsche purchasers on here...

Does anyone have a view on what the base price for the gen 2 might be, assuming there will be an uptick over the £100,540 base price for the gen 1? If not, would using the old 997 gen 1 to gen 2 pricing be a good indicator and if so does anyone know what that was?

Also - while we are on the subject, any views on what other changes might be expected other than the usual styling tweaks? Engine hike to 4.0 would make things very interesting!

Thanks in advance...

[Wilmslowboy]

What has you dealer told you, about whether there is actually going to build one or not ??

Every time I ask I have been told there isn't going to be one (hope there is)

[Slickhillsy]

100% confirmed.

[PorscheGT4]

Slickhillsy said:

100% confirmed.

Lol 100% confirmed from who ? An OPC ;-)

[Slickhillsy]

PorscheGT4 said:

Slickhillsy said:

100% confirmed.

Lol 100% confirmed from who ? An OPC ;-)

Bloke in a pub / aka an OPC - same difference...

In all seriousness there is no reason not to expect a gen 2 car going on their previous GT3 history...

[Skittles001]

I'm curious - (not referring to the responses above but other threads) why do people think that there won't be a Gen2 GT3? Based on the 996 and 997 variants that would surely be a shift in Porsche strategy and for no apparent good reason?

I might be mistaken but it seems that this suggestion was started by Apolo who stated that he had accurate inside information that only 132 Gen1 will exist, ever, and this seems to have been subsequently quoted as fact by a number of people. So just wondering if the cynicism about Gen2s comes from this or another source?

I hope there will be a Gen2 - I have a LOI for one (albeit RS).

Edited by Skittles001 on Monday 16th November 08:13

[Slickhillsy]

Skittles001 said:

I'm curious - (not referring to the responses above but other threads) why do people think that there won't be a Gen2 GT3? Based on the 996 and 997 variants that would surely be a shift in Porsche strategy and for no apparent good reason?

Edited by Skittles001 on Monday 16th November 08:13

My thoughts exactly...!

[DT398]

Slickhillsy said:

My thoughts exactly...!

It was a desperate attempt by some to try and claim that they were owners of the last of something when actually it's the first of something.

As mentioned above there have been a Gen1 and Gen2 of both the core range and GT cars for both the 996 and the 997. We have had the Gen1 of the core range and GT3/RS of the 991 and now, surprise surprise there's a Gen2 of the core range 991 just released, but somehow they are not going to do that with the 991 GT cars? I'm sure there will be one and nobody has ever come up with a credible reason why there won't be.

[mollytherocker]

DT398 said:

I'm sure there will be one and nobody has ever come up with a credible reason why there won't be.

There was a credible reason. It was to hype the gen 1 and drive the values up.

It worked a treat.

[SFO]

9A1 engine, which the 991 GT3 was based on, is no more.

perhaps Porsche won't spend the money to make the 9A2 turbo engine into a NA engine?

[mollytherocker]

SFO said:

9A1 engine, which the 991 GT3 was based on, is no more.

Really? Have Porsche said this?

[SFO]

mollytherocker said:

SFO said:

9A1 engine, which the 991 GT3 was based on, is no more.

Really? Have Porsche said this?

I meant not used on 991.2

[DT398]

SFO said:

I meant not used on 991.2

Doesn't mean they won't use it (or a variant of it) on the GT cars going forward?

[Skittles001]

SFO said:

I meant not used on 991.2

I assumed the 911R will be a Gen2 car but based on the Gen1 n/a GT3 engine?

[graeme4130]

DT398 said:

Slickhillsy said:

My thoughts exactly...!

It was a desperate attempt by some to try and claim that they were owners of the last of something when actually it's the first of something.

As mentioned above there have been a Gen1 and Gen2 of both the core range and GT cars for both the 996 and the 997. We have had the Gen1 of the core range and GT3/RS of the 991 and now, surprise surprise there's a Gen2 of the core range 991 just released, but somehow they are not going to do that with the 991 GT cars? I'm sure there will be one and nobody has ever come up with a credible reason why there won't be.

It's all rumour and speculation, largely by people looking to retain some value in their 991.1 GT3's
Personally, I can't see any reason for them not doing a 991.2GT3 and following their standard model cycle
It'll be interesting to see if they carry the 991.1 GT3 engine over to it, given the amount of issues they've had, and whether it will be manual or PDK though. Only time will tell
If it was priced similarly to the 991.1 car, I'd be interested in putting in an LOI/Deposit myself as I've kicked myself repeatedly for missing the boat on 991.1 cars at the time, but given that I have no relationship with an OPC (other than having a GT4 deposit returned), I think my chances of getting a car are next to zero

[Slickhillsy]

graeme4130 said:

If it was priced similarly to the 991.1 car...

Does anyone have a view on what the base price uptick might be using 997 g1 > g2 as an example?

[graeme4130]

Slickhillsy said:

graeme4130 said:

If it was priced similarly to the 991.1 car...

Does anyone have a view on what the base price uptick might be using 997 g1 > g2 as an example?

According to the wonders of google

997.1 £79,540
997.2 £81,914

That obviously doesn't account for any spec differences, and I think that's base model cars (i.e. not club sport)

Edited to add for info - 997.2RS £104,841

[Slickhillsy]

graeme4130 said:

According to the wonders of google

997.1 £79,540
997.2 £81,914

That obviously doesn't account for any spec differences, and I think that's base model cars (i.e. not club sport)

Edited to add for info - 997.2RS £104,841

Many thanks Graeme, well researched!

So a minor up tick anticipated...

Awaiting a spec from Porsche with baited breath...

[graeme4130]

Slickhillsy said:

graeme4130 said:

According to the wonders of google

997.1 £79,540
997.2 £81,914

That obviously doesn't account for any spec differences, and I think that's base model cars (i.e. not club sport)

Edited to add for info - 997.2RS £104,841

Many thanks Graeme, well researched!

So a minor up tick anticipated...

Awaiting a spec from Porsche with baited breath...

Worth bearing in mind that at the times of the 997.1 & 2, they weren't exactly flying out the showroom like they are now, so Porsche can price them higher and still sell out. Whether they'll do this or not is yet to be seen, but I'd hope they don't

[peralta]

I'm not sure that it was entirely correct to say about the 997 GT 3's that they weren't flying out of the showroom - my dealer knew that I had missed out on the 997.1 so mine (997.2) was ordered the day they were announced and it was nearly a year before delivery. Demand was definitely more than supply.
Don't forget that the pound/euro rate has made a huge difference and in 2010 the rate was around 1.10 so at say £82000 basic that equates to around 90000 euros instead of today's basic of say £102000 which at 1.42 equates to 145000 euros .
Either Porsche was selling them very,very cheaply in 2010 or they're making a fortune today.