Alternatives To The 991 Turbo S??

[W8PMC]

This may seem like a strange question but please bear with me.

As you may have seen below, i've always lusted after a 911 Turbo or Turbo S & next year the planets should align & allow me the opportunity to finally acquire one & scratch that long term itch. Still a few things to decide on & boxes to tick, but i'm close enough that i hope to press the button & order a car in the Spring for delivery Spring 2017 when my current F10 M5 will be up for replacement.

My question is this, what other cars sit in this price bracket with enough similarity to warrant a look & the reason for asking is this purchase is around 100% more in value than any i've made to date, so it would be perhaps foolish of me to not dip my toe in to look at alternatives & thus be confident if i do buy a Turbo/S that i've made the right choice. This also means i'm far from in the know as to the possible expanse of alternatives in this price bracket as say i would be when comparing my current car.

Must haves are the ability in rare cases to sit a child in the back seats, also it has to have some level of practicality in that it can be driven on longer journeys in comfort, even luxury. Best description i can provide is a true Sports car version of say the current M5 so it can do all things well, but clearly a few far better than an M5. I would also be tracking the car around 5-6 days a year.

Totally out of my depth of knowledge currently on what this market offers, other than say the Huracan (no rear seats), new R8 V10 Plus (again no rear seating), is the McLaren 570s in this price bracket & i'd also assume like the Lambo & R8 it has no rear seats. Nothing in the Ferrari stable at this price i don't think offers rear seats & i'm sure any new Ferrari would be considerably more than the Turbo S?

Anything obvious i'm missing? Thanks in advance.

[Magic919]

Ferrari California T offers rear seats for about £150k. Maserati Quattroporte GTS a bit cheaper and has them. Not sure I'd favour them over a 911 Turbo, but they are options.

[Hobo]

A few suggestions;

- Audi RS6 (new at around 85k)
- Bentley Continental GT (new or nearly new at around 140k)
- Aston Martin DBS (2012 for around 100k)
- Ferrari California (nearly new at around 150k)
- Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale (nearly new around 100k)

For me, the heart would say Maserati (JCT Leeds have a nice one in stock), but head would probably say still with your original choice of 991 Turbo or Audi RS6.

[OldBob]

Panamera turbo s - ~135K new?

Really quite lively to drive too - even on track

[W8PMC]

Hobo said:

A few suggestions;

- Audi RS6 (new at around 85k)
- Bentley Continental GT (new or nearly new at around 140k)
- Aston Martin DBS (2012 for around 100k)
- Ferrari California (nearly new at around 150k)
- Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale (nearly new around 100k)

For me, the heart would say Maserati (JCT Leeds have a nice one in stock), but head would probably say still with your original choice of 991 Turbo or Audi RS6.

Thanks. The Audi would be a sideways move from my M5 & certainly no Sports Car given it's only available as a Hearse.

Bentley again would top trump the luxury card but is probably real world less Sports Car like than what i'm currently driving as i'm sure they're about 1/2 ton heavier.

Didn't consider Aston but wouldn't want to purchase a 4-5yr old example & i guess no certainly as to what/when the DB9 replacement is due & what the cost will be?

Drove a Maserati Quattroporte (had some other letters after the name) round Milbrook a few years back & head to head with the Bentley Flying Spur, the Bentley killed it in all but aural output (which shocked the hell out of me). As such since that experience i've not considered another look at Maserati.

Will look online as the Cali as hadn't considered that. A friend bought one last year & raves about it. It's a tin top soft top isn't it?

[Hobo]

I'd get yourself down to JCT Ferrari/Maserati Leeds & have a look drive of both the California & MC Stradale (as suspect this would be considerably different to the one you drove previously).

http://www.jct600.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-mase...

http://www.jct600.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-ferr...

Both the above are in stock down at Leeds (although personally don't think White does either of them any favours).

[W8PMC]

OldBob said:

Panamera turbo s - ~135K new?

Really quite lively to drive too - even on track

Would want the Sports Car aspect & i'd hazard a guess the Panamera is at least as heavy if not heavier than the M5. Good call though but i could only be drawn to the 991 if i was considering any Porsche.

[Carl_Manchester]

Macan+boxster

[MDL111]

Used FF
Edit: new model/facelift due to be shown in next month, so prices cshoulddrop further

[9e 28]

Nothing new that can compete with a 991 turbo S as an allrounder.

FF a fantastic shout too.

[W8PMC]

Carl_Manchester said:

Macan+boxster

That's not a bad shout, but wanting the package in one car.

[W8PMC]

MDL111 said:

Used FF
Edit: new model/facelift due to be shown in next month, so prices cshoulddrop further

Didn't even cross my mind so will go t'internet surfing now.

Off to see Bolton's 991 Gen II Turbo S later this morning.

[tuffer]

W8PMC said:

MDL111 said:

Used FF
Edit: new model/facelift due to be shown in next month, so prices cshoulddrop further

Didn't even cross my mind so will go t'internet surfing now.

Off to see Bolton's 991 Gen II Turbo S later this morning.

I was also shocked by the FF suggestion then spent the next hour in the classifieds Tis a good shout but even the thought of the running costs was bringing me out in a cold sweat.

[hornbaek]

I have had two Porsche Turbo's (Coupe and Cab) in the past and the only time where they truly came into their stride was on de-restricted Autobahns or Alpine Passes - otherwise they were just too powerfull/fast for the average road driving which made them rather dull in the rev band where you can actually drive them (legally). Except for bragging rights i think that they are surplus to requirement these days so i think the real alternative is a "normal" 991 with some nice extras. Now that the revised 991 is turbo equipped as well you really have to ask yourself what the point of the 991 tt is ?

[WCZ]

Hobo said:

I'd get yourself down to JCT Ferrari/Maserati Leeds & have a look drive of both the California & MC Stradale (as suspect this would be considerably different to the one you drove previously).

http://www.jct600.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-mase...

http://www.jct600.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-ferr...

Both the above are in stock down at Leeds (although personally don't think White does either of them any favours).

+1
try a FF too as suggested

I'd personally go for the MC Strad

[foxsasha]

hornbaek said:

I have had two Porsche Turbo's (Coupe and Cab) in the past and the only time where they truly came into their stride was on de-restricted Autobahns or Alpine Passes - otherwise they were just too powerfull/fast for the average road driving which made them rather dull in the rev band where you can actually drive them (legally). Except for bragging rights i think that they are surplus to requirement these days so i think the real alternative is a "normal" 991 with some nice extras. Now that the revised 991 is turbo equipped as well you really have to ask yourself what the point of the 991 tt is ?

The 991.1 Carrera S wasn't powerful enough to make me want one. I wonder how much difference the new turbo engine brings to the experience.

[Hughesie]

hornbaek said:

Now that the revised 991 is turbo equipped as well you really have to ask yourself what the point of the 991 tt is ?

Powaaaahhhhhhhh.

Given the choices its the Turbo S all day long.

[leeGT2]

Nissan GTR Nismo... It has the rear seats, one of the quickest cars of 2015 round the ring and very rare so should retain value whereby Turbo S risks depreciating quite heavily in its first few years.

[W8PMC]

leeGT2 said:

Nissan GTR Nismo... It has the rear seats, one of the quickest cars of 2015 round the ring and very rare so should retain value whereby Turbo S risks depreciating quite heavily in its first few years.

Had an R35 (SVM 650r) & can't think of that, even the Nismo variant) coming close to offering what the 991 Turbo S would. Also i'd expect to be sectioned if i spent £115k on a Nissan. I'd hazard a guess the Porsche would fair no worse than the Nismo in the depreciation stakes, especially as the R36 will likely be announced later this year or early next.

[W8PMC]

hornbaek said:

I have had two Porsche Turbo's (Coupe and Cab) in the past and the only time where they truly came into their stride was on de-restricted Autobahns or Alpine Passes - otherwise they were just too powerfull/fast for the average road driving which made them rather dull in the rev band where you can actually drive them (legally). Except for bragging rights i think that they are surplus to requirement these days so i think the real alternative is a "normal" 991 with some nice extras. Now that the revised 991 is turbo equipped as well you really have to ask yourself what the point of the 991 tt is ?

The Audi A6 range has Turbo engines throughout the range but that doesn't stop people buying RS6's. I get the 911 purist debate although i don't have experience of the NA engines, so don't care the rest of the 911 range has gone down the induction route as regardless the Turbo or Turbo S is still (excluding GT's) the top of the range in every way & hardly like the Turbo is being manufactured with a remapped Carrera S engine to get the higher outputs, i agree if that was the case then the Turbo/S would seem a touch pointless.