converting kx250f into road bike
Discussion
cat with a hat said:
Steve Bass said:
Why??
MX bikes make s
t road bikes for a reason
Green lanes / need to get to an mx track...MX bikes make s
t road bikes for a reasonMx bikes on the road have a gearbox life expectancy of about a week, they just can't take it.
Not to mention motor with no bottom end torque, no flywheel weight and awful gearbox ratios the reality of a road going crosser is a million miles from what people think.
Add in the need for stop lights, horn, number plate, speedo etc and it's just not worth it.
Mx bikes are good for one thing. Motocross. s
t at everything else. You don't need lights etc to register in the uk. However you may need them to ride depending on what you need to do.
Enduro bikes are a good call, but aren't great on road all the time. Use for transiting and odd ride outs. For road use a 450 is better, just less strained.
If you want a knackered Greenlaner, they do a 250 Klr I think, and there is a 459 enduro bike too, which is basically a Suzuki rmx 450 in green clothes no bad thing.
And Honda do a road legal 250 enduro ish bike as well as their 450 and 250 x models.
If you are using an enduro or mx bike on road a lot, you can get a Cush drive back wheel conversion which makes a lot of difference to reduce drive train slack etc.
Enduro bikes are a good call, but aren't great on road all the time. Use for transiting and odd ride outs. For road use a 450 is better, just less strained.
If you want a knackered Greenlaner, they do a 250 Klr I think, and there is a 459 enduro bike too, which is basically a Suzuki rmx 450 in green clothes no bad thing.
And Honda do a road legal 250 enduro ish bike as well as their 450 and 250 x models.
If you are using an enduro or mx bike on road a lot, you can get a Cush drive back wheel conversion which makes a lot of difference to reduce drive train slack etc.
Ignore the "expert" up there
It's fairly easy depending on what you want it for.
Trail tech is your first port of call.
If the don't do the stator you'll need then it get difficult.
You need nothing more than a rear brake light and a horn for the road - nothing more to pass an MOT. These can be run straight off a battery tucked somewhere if you don't wan't to fit a stator and reg/rec. But you'll need to remember to charge it.
It'll have advisories on it but thats it.
You can then decide if you want a headlight - in which case it will need high and low beam.
No indicators are needed.
Fit the stator, etc and it will be charged just like a standard bike.
You will need the CoC as already stated - just call the importer up and they should be able to send you one - won't be free though.
Do the work, take it for an MOT, then apply for the reg number.
Have done it 3 times now - the CRF450R sat in the garage right now is the latest. That one is fully legal with lights, battery, etc.
It's fairly easy depending on what you want it for.
Trail tech is your first port of call.
If the don't do the stator you'll need then it get difficult.
You need nothing more than a rear brake light and a horn for the road - nothing more to pass an MOT. These can be run straight off a battery tucked somewhere if you don't wan't to fit a stator and reg/rec. But you'll need to remember to charge it.
It'll have advisories on it but thats it.
You can then decide if you want a headlight - in which case it will need high and low beam.
No indicators are needed.
Fit the stator, etc and it will be charged just like a standard bike.
You will need the CoC as already stated - just call the importer up and they should be able to send you one - won't be free though.
Do the work, take it for an MOT, then apply for the reg number.
Have done it 3 times now - the CRF450R sat in the garage right now is the latest. That one is fully legal with lights, battery, etc.
HammyUK said:
Ignore the "expert" up there
It's fairly easy depending on what you want it for.
Trail tech is your first port of call.
If the don't do the stator you'll need then it get difficult.
You need nothing more than a rear brake light and a horn for the road - nothing more to pass an MOT. These can be run straight off a battery tucked somewhere if you don't wan't to fit a stator and reg/rec. But you'll need to remember to charge it.
It'll have advisories on it but thats it.
You can then decide if you want a headlight - in which case it will need high and low beam.
No indicators are needed.
Fit the stator, etc and it will be charged just like a standard bike.
You will need the CoC as already stated - just call the importer up and they should be able to send you one - won't be free though.
Do the work, take it for an MOT, then apply for the reg number.
Have done it 3 times now - the CRF450R sat in the garage right now is the latest. That one is fully legal with lights, battery, etc.
So you've never had an MX box lock due to sustained top gear use??It's fairly easy depending on what you want it for.
Trail tech is your first port of call.
If the don't do the stator you'll need then it get difficult.
You need nothing more than a rear brake light and a horn for the road - nothing more to pass an MOT. These can be run straight off a battery tucked somewhere if you don't wan't to fit a stator and reg/rec. But you'll need to remember to charge it.
It'll have advisories on it but thats it.
You can then decide if you want a headlight - in which case it will need high and low beam.
No indicators are needed.
Fit the stator, etc and it will be charged just like a standard bike.
You will need the CoC as already stated - just call the importer up and they should be able to send you one - won't be free though.
Do the work, take it for an MOT, then apply for the reg number.
Have done it 3 times now - the CRF450R sat in the garage right now is the latest. That one is fully legal with lights, battery, etc.
My CR250 2T did it, a mates YZ490 did it, as well as numerous times on an older RM250.
This "Expert" has actually done it many years ago and found it to be nothing but hassle as the bike just isn't suited to road.
MX bikes are so focussed at that job they have too many compromises else where. Getting a decent Enduro spec bike is way more practical for day to day use.
if you want to ride 3 miles to a spot then fine, but for real use, why bother. The enduro versions do it all so much better and are ready road legal with lights etc. i chopped my CR for an early KTM 400 EXC and never looked back. Not the same hit as the 2T but riding along the Pilgrims way road sections or around Rhyadder was much nicer.
HammyUK said:
Ignore the "expert" up there
It's fairly easy depending on what you want it for.
Trail tech is your first port of call.
If the don't do the stator you'll need then it get difficult.
You need nothing more than a rear brake light and a horn for the road - nothing more to pass an MOT. These can be run straight off a battery tucked somewhere if you don't wan't to fit a stator and reg/rec. But you'll need to remember to charge it.
It'll have advisories on it but thats it.
You can then decide if you want a headlight - in which case it will need high and low beam.
No indicators are needed.
Fit the stator, etc and it will be charged just like a standard bike.
You will need the CoC as already stated - just call the importer up and they should be able to send you one - won't be free though.
Do the work, take it for an MOT, then apply for the reg number.
Have done it 3 times now - the CRF450R sat in the garage right now is the latest. That one is fully legal with lights, battery, etc.
Haha, belittle the expert and then get it wrong, you don't need a brake light, it is all lights or none at all.It's fairly easy depending on what you want it for.
Trail tech is your first port of call.
If the don't do the stator you'll need then it get difficult.
You need nothing more than a rear brake light and a horn for the road - nothing more to pass an MOT. These can be run straight off a battery tucked somewhere if you don't wan't to fit a stator and reg/rec. But you'll need to remember to charge it.
It'll have advisories on it but thats it.
You can then decide if you want a headlight - in which case it will need high and low beam.
No indicators are needed.
Fit the stator, etc and it will be charged just like a standard bike.
You will need the CoC as already stated - just call the importer up and they should be able to send you one - won't be free though.
Do the work, take it for an MOT, then apply for the reg number.
Have done it 3 times now - the CRF450R sat in the garage right now is the latest. That one is fully legal with lights, battery, etc.
Yep, no brake light needed, just a horn.
I "think" for construction and use you may need to change the tyres to a road legal version, FIM approved are pretty much all road legal. Limited choice in 19 inch rear, but they are available.
Steve is correct though, that an endure version is a better bet really.
I "think" for construction and use you may need to change the tyres to a road legal version, FIM approved are pretty much all road legal. Limited choice in 19 inch rear, but they are available.
Steve is correct though, that an endure version is a better bet really.
curlie467 said:
Haha, belittle the expert and then get it wrong, you don't need a brake light, it is all lights or none at all.
Have a pop and you're wrong 
Perhaps go read the MOT rules.
http://www.motuk.com/bike/manual.asp
HammyUK said:
curlie467 said:
Haha, belittle the expert and then get it wrong, you don't need a brake light, it is all lights or none at all.
Have a pop and you're wrong Perhaps go read the MOT rules.
http://www.motuk.com/bike/manual.asp
My bike has an not with the advisory 'daytime use only'.
It has no brake light.
Perhaps you should read them again, properly, it even says that bikes without front and rear lamps are exempt from having a stop light but will be subjected to a daytime use advisory.
Haha to you again. Its rare that I'm right so don't take it personally!
Edited by curlie467 on Thursday 4th February 10:00
Edited by curlie467 on Thursday 4th February 10:10
HammyUK said:
I think it's you who needs to read up a bit more. My bike has no lights and a valid MOT. DuraAce said:
HammyUK said:
I think it's you who needs to read up a bit more. My bike has no lights and a valid MOT. Yazza54 said:
DuraAce said:
HammyUK said:
I think it's you who needs to read up a bit more. My bike has no lights and a valid MOT. curlie467 said:
Definitely not wrong.
My bike has an not with the advisory 'daytime use only'.
It has no brake light.
Perhaps you should read them again, properly, it even says that bikes without front and rear lamps are exempt from having a stop light but will be subjected to a daytime use advisory.
Haha to you again. Its rare that I'm right so don't take it personally!
Wrong in your comment "all lights or none at all".My bike has an not with the advisory 'daytime use only'.
It has no brake light.
Perhaps you should read them again, properly, it even says that bikes without front and rear lamps are exempt from having a stop light but will be subjected to a daytime use advisory.
Haha to you again. Its rare that I'm right so don't take it personally!
Edited by curlie467 on Thursday 4th February 10:00
Edited by curlie467 on Thursday 4th February 10:10
Perhaps if people bothered to actually read the quoted post rather than skimming the t
tish reply then you wouldn't look such an prick?HammyUK said:
Wrong in your comment "all lights or none at all".
Perhaps if people bothered to actually read the quoted post rather than skimming the ttish reply then you wouldn't look such an prick?
Haha you big baby.Perhaps if people bothered to actually read the quoted post rather than skimming the t
tish reply then you wouldn't look such an prick?FWIW I thought that if you had any of the lights then you had to have them all and if fitted they had to work, probably something I misunderstood at some point.
The rules are actually hard to interpret for some testers, I got refused an MOT at one place but was fine at the next.
I will always admit if I am wrong, it doesn't hurt me and I don't care, why was it t
ttish? You started that with the 'expert' comment.What I won't do is have a hissy fit like you.
Edited by curlie467 on Friday 5th February 16:12
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