No more white lines on main roads! Really?

No more white lines on main roads! Really?

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J B L

Original Poster:

4,200 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I see a flaw here.

I mean, how on earth am I going to keep my car in my lane whilst texting when my 'lane departure warning system' can't see where the car is going.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/12137382/End-of-th...

I'm not sure it's a good idea. Perhaps OK in low speed/residential area but not on main roads, surely.

trickywoo

11,789 posts

230 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Won't be long before the first court case.

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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When roads have been resurfaced and the White lines haven't been painted yet I find the road "works" much better

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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What an absolutely retarded idea. Once again the blind assumption that slower = safer creating more blindly idiotic schemes to be filed next to 'traffic calming measures', speedbumps and fences to block the view at roundabouts.

SuperPav

1,091 posts

125 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Better than speedbumps in my opinion if it's to calm traffic down in "semi residential" areas. Wouldn't recommend it on the M40 though!

Living in out in the sticks, a lot of my daily journeys are along B roads which have no centre markings.

It definitely does slow down some people, especially the great dozy types. Doesn't really affect me one way or another, cars seem to avoid hitting each other in my experience.


My worry would be if it slows lots of people down, but actually creates a higher rate of accidents or near misses due to some people's inability to place their car appropriately on the road without some sort of offside marking.

parabolica

6,715 posts

184 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Utter piffle IMO; you only have to look at Russian dashcam clip on youtube to see how well wide roads with no markings work. I suspect road rage and accidents would go through the roof. Spent most of 2014 living in Dar es Salaam where they also have hardly any road markings; it's hardly a fair example as the general standard of driving is appalling to begin with, but it was utter chaos 90% of the time.

Edited by parabolica on Wednesday 3rd February 11:26

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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trickywoo said:
Won't be long before the first court case.
yes

Decision will then be revered after the 2nd or 3rd court case.....

TooLateForAName

4,747 posts

184 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Might be OK on a clear day, but on a wet raining night with oncoming cars with badly adjusted headlights (dodgy hid kits) this is going to be a disaster.

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Doesn't matter what they paint on the roads, not the new ones anyway. The new surface of the admittedly lovely and smooth tarmac, basically turns into a mirror when its wet, You can't see a single marking over reflections of street lamps, car headlamps and the search lights masquerading as traffic lights (and of course there about 12 too many traffic lights for any given situation).

Then you've got drainage which considering these are new roads seems to be awful. Standing water everywhere.

It does make you slow down though as you can't always figure out where you are meant to be on the road (i.e. which lane to be in, not struggling to drive in a straight line, you can use the curb for that). Equally though, it makes you more hesitant and prone to last minute changes of direction which kills, I think, one of the key traits of safe driving: being predictable.

Smokehead

7,703 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I can just see all the morons with target fixation heading at the lights of the car coming the other way.

jkh112

22,004 posts

158 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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This may have a beneficial effect initially as drivers are getting used to the lack of markings, but it will not take long for the novelty to wear off and speeds/attention to return to normal.

55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Without white lines, it is often very difficult to read the road a good distance ahead at night.

Freddy88FM

474 posts

134 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I have always had a problem with the slower traffic = safer traffic argument.

Yes, the traffic may slow by 13% if there's no white line. But which would you rather? A 70mph car in it's lane travelling along, or a 61mph car with no idea where on the road it's supposed to be?

I think we need to study this carefully. It seems a large backward step to me. I personally think better driver training is necessary.

Some Gump

12,690 posts

186 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Head of the roads has clearly never left the m6 toll at Rush our. It's carnage, as 50 2l tdi's all race to be "first". We want that for the whole motorway?

B3ALP

491 posts

141 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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It's those Chevrons on the motorway that they need to get rid offurious

I nearly killed my self at 165 mph behind a 911 trying to follow the instructions.


Nors

1,291 posts

155 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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TooLateForAName said:
Might be OK on a clear day, but on a wet raining night with oncoming cars with badly adjusted headlights (dodgy hid kits) this is going to be a disaster.
Absolutely this!!! Disasters coming!

veccy208

1,321 posts

101 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I'm really confused at this! My first thought is what happens in fog, lines are invaluable in thick fog.
What about head on insurance claims? Whos at fault if there is no 'side of the road.
Finally what about all the idiots who can barely keep a straight line with a white line! I have visions of cars weaving everywhere!'

boyse7en

6,723 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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This isn't aimed at Motorways, major A roads or even out of town unlit B roads. The idea is to make people pay more attention in urban driving environments.

The element of uncertainty (eg. at a junction, if no one has priority then you have to check and interact with other drivers to establish who gives way) helps to ensure that drivers and other road users think about their driving and drive to the conditions rather than just assuming that they will be alright and steaming through.


LunarOne

5,182 posts

137 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Recipe for disaster if there ever was one, urban roads or not.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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More backwards thinking eekconfused
what a totally moronic idea and nothing to do with saving money at all ?