991 GTS Must haves

[IREvans]

Taffy66 said:

Mae'n amlwg bod dynion cymraeg gyda'r un blas mewn ceir ag efallai pethau arall hefyd....!

Mae'n rhaid bod ti'n siarad am beiciau 🚴..?

[Greedydog]

Well that's my 991.2 GTS ordered! I'm still struggling with the exact spec.

I'm definitely (I think) going with a PDK 4GTS in graphite blue. There are however a couple of things I'm not sure about:

1) Whether to spec both GTS packs - I like alcantara and want as much as possible but I don't like the deviated stitching in either colour and I'm no fan of carbon in interiors either, however having read some comments here that the car will be a tough sell down the line I'm wondering if I should spec both? Then again I'm buying the car for me not the next owner!

2) Do I need RWS or not? I've never driven a car with it so don't know what I'm missing (if anything for me). HAs anyone driven a 4GTS with it? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get to the PEC before lock down so I'll need to see if the OPC have both for a back to back test.

3) Centrelock vs normal wheels. I love the centrelock look but don't fancy getting a puncture 100s of miles from home and the fitters not being able to get the wheel on and off!

Decisions, decisions....

[rbh]

Further to my previous post, my car is now physically at the dealers. I pick it up on Monday!

[thirdstage]

With the -20 PASM what are the thoughts on specifying Front Axel lift

[nick28]

Greedydog said:

Well that's my 991.2 GTS ordered! I'm still struggling with the exact spec.

I'm definitely (I think) going with a PDK 4GTS in graphite blue. There are however a couple of things I'm not sure about:

1) Whether to spec both GTS packs - I like alcantara and want as much as possible but I don't like the deviated stitching in either colour and I'm no fan of carbon in interiors either, however having read some comments here that the car will be a tough sell down the line I'm wondering if I should spec both? Then again I'm buying the car for me not the next owner!

2) Do I need RWS or not? I've never driven a car with it so don't know what I'm missing (if anything for me). HAs anyone driven a 4GTS with it? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get to the PEC before lock down so I'll need to see if the OPC have both for a back to back test.

3) Centrelock vs normal wheels. I love the centrelock look but don't fancy getting a puncture 100s of miles from home and the fitters not being able to get the wheel on and off!

Decisions, decisions....

I pick mine up on Thursday. It has both GTS packs as recommended by the Dealer so I'll be able to see if its worth the extra. It also has RWS which I've had in a couple of 991's and can definitely recommend it

[mattf93]

Greedydog said:

Well that's my 991.2 GTS ordered! I'm still struggling with the exact spec.

I'm definitely (I think) going with a PDK 4GTS in graphite blue. There are however a couple of things I'm not sure about:

1) Whether to spec both GTS packs - I like alcantara and want as much as possible but I don't like the deviated stitching in either colour and I'm no fan of carbon in interiors either, however having read some comments here that the car will be a tough sell down the line I'm wondering if I should spec both? Then again I'm buying the car for me not the next owner!

2) Do I need RWS or not? I've never driven a car with it so don't know what I'm missing (if anything for me). HAs anyone driven a 4GTS with it? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get to the PEC before lock down so I'll need to see if the OPC have both for a back to back test.

3) Centrelock vs normal wheels. I love the centrelock look but don't fancy getting a puncture 100s of miles from home and the fitters not being able to get the wheel on and off!

Decisions, decisions....

You'll kill the car at resale if you don't have centre locks - a GTS without those wheels doesnt look like a GTS imo. Also I think porsche assist or the most local OPC will send someone out if you're stuck to assist with getting a wheel off. Wheels are tightened to around 650NM if I remember correctly.

On GTS Packs - the silver/platinum stitching inside I personally think is imperative as it gives the cabin a bit of colour rather than being completely black!

What contrast stitch colour would you hope they had available?

[Gorsh]

nick28 said:

I pick mine up on Thursday. It has both GTS packs as recommended by the Dealer so I'll be able to see if its worth the extra. It also has RWS which I've had in a couple of 991's and can definitely recommend it

Very exciting - bet you can't wait!

I would love to hear what you think of the car - as of course none of us have driven one. Also interested what suspension (-10 or -20) you have and how it feels comfort wise.

[Gorsh]

thirdstage said:

With the -20 PASM what are the thoughts on specifying Front Axel lift

I'd be interested in this too - I have to drive the car on and off a ferry quite often. I can just get away without my BGTS grounding if I drive onto the ramp at an angle. Not sure if the 991.2 GTS with the -20 suspension and the standard fit sport design front apron will be lower? I would think it is lower but if anyone can confirm I'd be grateful.

[mattf93]

Gorsh said:

I'd be interested in this too - I have to drive the car on and off a ferry quite often. I can just get away without my BGTS grounding if I drive onto the ramp at an angle. Not sure if the 991.2 GTS with the -20 suspension and the standard fit sport design front apron will be lower? I would think it is lower but if anyone can confirm I'd be grateful.

Probably why they have a front lift option

[Cheib]

Gorsh said:

I'd be interested in this too - I have to drive the car on and off a ferry quite often. I can just get away without my BGTS grounding if I drive onto the ramp at an angle. Not sure if the 991.2 GTS with the -20 suspension and the standard fit sport design front apron will be lower? I would think it is lower but if anyone can confirm I'd be grateful.

You'd be bonkers not speccing it in that case !

Look forward to seeing pics from all you expectant owners!

[Greedydog]

mattf93 said:

Greedydog said:

Well that's my 991.2 GTS ordered! I'm still struggling with the exact spec.

I'm definitely (I think) going with a PDK 4GTS in graphite blue. There are however a couple of things I'm not sure about:

1) Whether to spec both GTS packs - I like alcantara and want as much as possible but I don't like the deviated stitching in either colour and I'm no fan of carbon in interiors either, however having read some comments here that the car will be a tough sell down the line I'm wondering if I should spec both? Then again I'm buying the car for me not the next owner!

2) Do I need RWS or not? I've never driven a car with it so don't know what I'm missing (if anything for me). HAs anyone driven a 4GTS with it? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get to the PEC before lock down so I'll need to see if the OPC have both for a back to back test.

3) Centrelock vs normal wheels. I love the centrelock look but don't fancy getting a puncture 100s of miles from home and the fitters not being able to get the wheel on and off!

Decisions, decisions....

You'll kill the car at resale if you don't have centre locks - a GTS without those wheels doesnt look like a GTS imo. Also I think porsche assist or the most local OPC will send someone out if you're stuck to assist with getting a wheel off. Wheels are tightened to around 650NM if I remember correctly.

On GTS Packs - the silver/platinum stitching inside I personally think is imperative as it gives the cabin a bit of colour rather than being completely black!

What contrast stitch colour would you hope they had available?

If all colours were available I'd match the stitching to the paintwork, so graphite blue. The thing is I actually LIKE black cabins (weird I know) and if I had the choice I'd keep the dial black too!

Good point re centre locks.... hmmmmm!

[MM57]

I'm happy to spec CL wheels - but I'd just prefer them not to be black.

Any options there?...the GT3 Gen 2 black centre locks with non-black wheels (various colours) look much nicer to me.

[IREvans]

Greedydog said:

Well that's my 991.2 GTS ordered! I'm still struggling with the exact spec.

I'm definitely (I think) going with a PDK 4GTS in graphite blue. There are however a couple of things I'm not sure about:

1) Whether to spec both GTS packs - I like alcantara and want as much as possible but I don't like the deviated stitching in either colour and I'm no fan of carbon in interiors either, however having read some comments here that the car will be a tough sell down the line I'm wondering if I should spec both? Then again I'm buying the car for me not the next owner!

2) Do I need RWS or not? I've never driven a car with it so don't know what I'm missing (if anything for me). HAs anyone driven a 4GTS with it? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get to the PEC before lock down so I'll need to see if the OPC have both for a back to back test.

3) Centrelock vs normal wheels. I love the centrelock look but don't fancy getting a puncture 100s of miles from home and the fitters not being able to get the wheel on and off!

Decisions, decisions....

Hi Greedydog.

1) I'd get both GTS packs, it ensures you get full leather on the dash and doors etc - looks much nicer, and the combination of leather, alcantara and carbon has become synonymous with the GTS models

2) Having driven a few 991s, both with and without RWS, I'd definitely spec it - I have on mine. See my previous posts for reasons why..

3) Centre lock wheels look superb. I guess a puncture is a minor worry, but you'll probably be calling Porsche assist if you get one, and they'll have the tools to remove and refit a wheel. The tool is kept in the car. In all reality though, a puncture in one of these probably means recovery, as its unlikely they'd fix it roadside.

[IREvans]

thirdstage said:

With the -20 PASM what are the thoughts on specifying Front Axel lift

I had a 991.1 GTS with -20 PASM, and an aerokit (lift wasn't available on this model) and the car didn't ground out anywhere that I go, and my garage has a steep approach angle.

Further, a 991 GT3 or RS can only get into my garage with axle lift, which demonstrates how much lower the front end on a GT3 is.

So I didn't spec lift on my 991.2 GTS

[IREvans]

Gorsh said:

I'd be interested in this too - I have to drive the car on and off a ferry quite often. I can just get away without my BGTS grounding if I drive onto the ramp at an angle. Not sure if the 991.2 GTS with the -20 suspension and the standard fit sport design front apron will be lower? I would think it is lower but if anyone can confirm I'd be grateful.

Gorsh, my 991.1 GTS with -20 PASM and an aerokit didn't ground out anywhere, so I haven't specced it on mine....I hope that was the right call with the car now built..!

[IREvans]

MM57 said:

I'm happy to spec CL wheels - but I'd just prefer them not to be black.

Any options there?...the GT3 Gen 2 black centre locks with non-black wheels (various colours) look much nicer to me.

I think if there'd been an option for satin platinum or silver finish for the centre locks, then I'd possibly have chosen it. I'm not normally a fan of black wheels, but I had a 991 GT3 in Agate grey with black wheels, and it did look great....

[Taffy66]

Greedydog said:

Well that's my 991.2 GTS ordered! I'm still struggling with the exact spec.

I'm definitely (I think) going with a PDK 4GTS in graphite blue. There are however a couple of things I'm not sure about:

1) Whether to spec both GTS packs - I like alcantara and want as much as possible but I don't like the deviated stitching in either colour and I'm no fan of carbon in interiors either, however having read some comments here that the car will be a tough sell down the line I'm wondering if I should spec both? Then again I'm buying the car for me not the next owner!

2) Do I need RWS or not? I've never driven a car with it so don't know what I'm missing (if anything for me). HAs anyone driven a 4GTS with it? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get to the PEC before lock down so I'll need to see if the OPC have both for a back to back test.

3) Centrelock vs normal wheels. I love the centrelock look but don't fancy getting a puncture 100s of miles from home and the fitters not being able to get the wheel on and off!

Decisions, decisions....

If you have reservations against speccing the GTS packs and the CL wheels then in all reality you're not really after the GTS and perhaps better off getting the standard 4s instead...! However if you are committed for a GTS then speccing the GTS packs and the CL's are imo absolutely essential for resale,
With regards to RWS and based on my recent PEC driving both 991.2s with and without it is along with PDK the most transformative options to spec with regards ultimate pace and agility. However on the 4WD version i don't think the benefits of RWS will be as obvious as the torque will transter to the front wheels on onset of understeer to help pull the car around. The benefits at lower speeds in terms of increased agility and less steering input will be the same as the 2WD imo...
Please refer to my earlier post on my PEC day for a more detailed analysis. I was so impressed i included RWS on my incoming Pannamera only yesterday...

[Cheib]

Taffy66 said:

If you have reservations against speccing the GTS packs and the CL wheels then in all reality you're not really after the GTS and perhaps better off getting the standard 4s instead...! However if you are committed for a GTS then speccing the GTS packs and the CL's are imo absolutely essential for resale,

Totally agree with this and its very good advice.

[franki68]

Cheib said:

Taffy66 said:

If you have reservations against speccing the GTS packs and the CL wheels then in all reality you're not really after the GTS and perhaps better off getting the standard 4s instead...! However if you are committed for a GTS then speccing the GTS packs and the CL's are imo absolutely essential for resale,

Totally agree with this and its very good advice.

The gts interior packs add up to nearly 5k , are you saying you won't sell a car without them ? Or that a car without them will fetch more than 5k less come resale ?
For example would a car without interior packs but with rws not be as desirable as a car with no rws but with interior packs
I've specced mine up and with the gts package it's 118k , My gt3 spec is barely anymore .

[AOK]

franki68 said:

The gts interior packs add up to nearly 5k , are you saying you won't sell a car without them ? Or that a car without them will fetch more than 5k less come resale ?
For example would a car without interior packs but with rws not be as desirable as a car with no rws but with interior packs
I've specced mine up and with the gts package it's 118k , My gt3 spec is barely anymore .

Best thing to do is take a look at the 991.1 market... I was studying it very closely for months whilst hunting for mine.

The cars without the GTS interior always sit around the bottom end of the market, often regardless of how good the rest of the spec is. They also seems to hang around for quite a long time too. Perhaps they aren't £5k cheaper, but if I had to put a figure on it I'd say about £3k cheaper.

Personally, I'd pay the extra £2k for an easy re-sell any day (not to mention how lovely it looks and feels whilst you own it).

I truly don't mean this nastily to anyone pondering the choice, but if the £2k saving is an important consideration, perhaps a £100k car on which we're yet to fully understand the residual values on might be quite a big bite to be taking?