991 GTS Must haves
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Hi all,just returned from my 400mile round trip to Porsche experience centre at Silverstone for a back to back test on the 991.2s manual sans Rws and a PDK with Rws/PDCC to help me choose my ideal spec for my May build 991.2Gts 2wd coupe.What an eyeopener as it has totally changed my initial spec of manual,buckets and no Rws and my reasons are as follows.....
First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
Thanks for posting your report - very interesting and informative.
I have a C2 GTS on order and from my road test liked the RWS so had already decided I wanted it. Also agree on the seats and PDK, the car is so comfortable and easy to drive quickly.
I am still a little troubled on PDCC as the car I drove also had it on - and I really wonder how much it added to the feel of the car. On the road I didn't drive what I would call aggressively but the car was so balanced and felt stable on my bravest attempts at fast cornering, even bumps mid corner didn't unsettle it. Did you by any chance try a car with RWS and without PDCC ? If you didn't I don't know how you can be so sure the PDCC wasn't doing much - did the instructor have good or indifferent things to say about it. Just wondering why you have decided you don't want it. If I was convinced the car would be just as good without it then I'd happily leave it off, otherwise I would have it to ensure the car feels like the one I drove.
I have a C2 GTS on order and from my road test liked the RWS so had already decided I wanted it. Also agree on the seats and PDK, the car is so comfortable and easy to drive quickly.
I am still a little troubled on PDCC as the car I drove also had it on - and I really wonder how much it added to the feel of the car. On the road I didn't drive what I would call aggressively but the car was so balanced and felt stable on my bravest attempts at fast cornering, even bumps mid corner didn't unsettle it. Did you by any chance try a car with RWS and without PDCC ? If you didn't I don't know how you can be so sure the PDCC wasn't doing much - did the instructor have good or indifferent things to say about it. Just wondering why you have decided you don't want it. If I was convinced the car would be just as good without it then I'd happily leave it off, otherwise I would have it to ensure the car feels like the one I drove.
Hi Gorsh,the PDK with Rws/Pdcc 991.2 i drove with the Pdcc both switched on and off and i felt no discernible difference either way.I had already decided on not speccing it as most reviews say it robs the car of feel plus it is also expensive compared to Rws.The instructor said they feel it but only at the top 1-2% at the car's limit.Don't get me wrong in that imv it had no detrimental effect on handling and i was biased anyway because i was unwilling to pay £2200 for an option with no HUGE benefit, in complete contrast i felt the benefit of Rws all the time from slow speeds all the way to high speed corners..!.
It basically boils down to bangs for your bucks and compromising between spec and getting carried away with the configurator...!. All down to personal tastes and priorities.Sorry i can't be more specific on the pro and cons of Pdcc.
It basically boils down to bangs for your bucks and compromising between spec and getting carried away with the configurator...!. All down to personal tastes and priorities.Sorry i can't be more specific on the pro and cons of Pdcc.
Edited by Taffy66 on Thursday 2nd March 23:29
Edited by Taffy66 on Thursday 2nd March 23:30
Taffy66 said:
Hi all,just returned from my 400mile round trip to Porsche experience centre at Silverstone for a back to back test on the 991.2s manual sans Rws and a PDK with Rws/PDCC to help me choose my ideal spec for my May build 991.2Gts 2wd coupe.What an eyeopener as it has totally changed my initial spec of manual,buckets and no Rws and my reasons are as follows.....
First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
Great that Porsche have a facility like they do for the very purpose of what you were trying to achieve today.First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
I'm glad you discovered that the double apex right, followed by big stop into 2nd gear left is the corner that highlights the benefits of RWS...! Your spec is now just like mine..!
Taffy66 said:
Hi Gorsh,the PDK with Rws/Pdcc 991.2 i drove with the Pdcc both switched on and off and i felt no discernible difference either way.I had already decided on not speccing it as most reviews say it robs the car of feel plus it is also expensive compared to Rws.The instructor said they feel it but only at the top 1-2% at the car's limit.Don't get me wrong in that imv it had no detrimental effect on handling and i was biased anyway because i was unwilling to pay £2200 for an option with no HUGE benefit, in complete contrast i felt the benefit of Rws all the time from slow speeds all the way to high speed corners..!.
It basically boils down to bangs for your bucks and compromising between spec and getting carried away with the configurator...!. All down to personal tastes and priorities.Sorry i can't be more specific on the pro and cons of Pdcc.
You can't turn PDCC on and off as far as I am aware? You were probably switching the dampers but PDCC is on all the time unless I'm mistaken.It basically boils down to bangs for your bucks and compromising between spec and getting carried away with the configurator...!. All down to personal tastes and priorities.Sorry i can't be more specific on the pro and cons of Pdcc.
Edited by Taffy66 on Thursday 2nd March 23:29
Edited by Taffy66 on Thursday 2nd March 23:30
Thought you would go for PDK, glad to hear you were impressed with RWS. Did you try it on the road aswell?
Taffy66 said:
Hi all,just returned from my 400mile round trip to Porsche experience centre at Silverstone for a back to back test on the 991.2s manual sans Rws and a PDK with Rws/PDCC to help me choose my ideal spec for my May build 991.2Gts 2wd coupe.What an eyeopener as it has totally changed my initial spec of manual,buckets and no Rws and my reasons are as follows.....
First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
Thanks for the great write up. I, for one, found your comments really helpful as I'm getting towards lockdown on my spec for a 991.2 GTS. I've spec'd the PDK and RWS, amongst other options, so was it was good to hear from your first hand experience. I have also spc'd the 18 way seats. I have them in my current car, a 981 Spyder, and find them really comfortable so decided I didn't want to take the chance.First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
IREvans said:
Taffy66 said:
Hi all,just returned from my 400mile round trip to Porsche experience centre at Silverstone for a back to back test on the 991.2s manual sans Rws and a PDK with Rws/PDCC to help me choose my ideal spec for my May build 991.2Gts 2wd coupe.What an eyeopener as it has totally changed my initial spec of manual,buckets and no Rws and my reasons are as follows.....
First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
Great that Porsche have a facility like they do for the very purpose of what you were trying to achieve today.First drive was the manual/no Rws and my first observation took me by surprise in the quality of the gearchange,light precise and riflebolt in its action and nearly as good as my GT4's.The steering seemed a lot better than the 991.1s i drove a few years ago and now imo good enough to warrant comparison with the hydraulic one in the 997.The handling and grip was outstanding once i got my lines and braking points right and a step up from the 991.1 and we did plenty of laps and side plate and low friction surfaces to get a feel for the car.
Next up after refreshment we took out the PDK/Rws version at the new low speed sladom track and what a revelation.I immediately noticed the benefits of Rws and is now my first must have option,it transforms the car and i could feel the benefits on every corner on the main track.The most noticeable change is after leaving the pits there are a double apex right hander,hard on brakes for the sharp left hander where before the front would washout into understeer but with Rws it would rotate and go round much quicker.On the manual non Rws i would understeer on every corner if braking too late but the Rws would neutralise the balance and very natural and confidence inspiring with it.
The instructor did mention my fast aggressive driving style benefits more from Rws than a slower more sensible driver would.I was also massively impressed with the Pdk and the comfort and grippiness of the standard sport plus seats.
So to summarise my current spec for my upcoming Gts is 2wd coupe,PDK,Rws and standard sport plus seats with Rws non negotiable...
PS I saw no real benefit of the PDCC
I'm glad you discovered that the double apex right, followed by big stop into 2nd gear left is the corner that highlights the benefits of RWS...! Your spec is now just like mine..!
The issue I see here is cars are easier to drive and need less skill, PDK, RWS, PTV etc is all dull to me.
I agree with the above post by " Cheib "
I have learned a craft and I get a buzz from driving well and fast to quite a good standard.
Now ave Joe can pilot a car just as fast as I can due to all these driver aids.
The ave driver loves all this new tech because it make them feel safe and faster than they could go before.
I find there is nothing what so ever to do while driving a new car and while it's fun for 1/2 a day in a loaner the cars have no sole or longevity in them, one tends to just want to go faster and faster.
A to B now in the 991.2 GTS is mind blowing and a great car for people who don't really like cars , if that makes sense. you have the PDK so no changing of gear, you have a turbo so torque on hand every where, you have RWS so no trail braking needed, you have PTV so if the car runs a bit wide it tucks back in.
even that new ring record looks easy at 6.52 in the lambo vs watching the 911 Ruff faster is not better.
I agree with the above post by " Cheib "
I have learned a craft and I get a buzz from driving well and fast to quite a good standard.
Now ave Joe can pilot a car just as fast as I can due to all these driver aids.
The ave driver loves all this new tech because it make them feel safe and faster than they could go before.
I find there is nothing what so ever to do while driving a new car and while it's fun for 1/2 a day in a loaner the cars have no sole or longevity in them, one tends to just want to go faster and faster.
A to B now in the 991.2 GTS is mind blowing and a great car for people who don't really like cars , if that makes sense. you have the PDK so no changing of gear, you have a turbo so torque on hand every where, you have RWS so no trail braking needed, you have PTV so if the car runs a bit wide it tucks back in.
even that new ring record looks easy at 6.52 in the lambo vs watching the 911 Ruff faster is not better.
Cheib said:
Interesting observations! The only thing I would say is that for normal road use you'd struggle to take a tight corner as aggressively as you take that left hander (it's probably the tightest on the track apart from the one after the dip on the other circuit?). It must be the "analogue nerd" in me but personally I'd get more satisfaction of nailing that corner without something like RWS helping! A bit like with the double apex corner before the first time I got the line right so that you make it the single apex corner was probably the highlight of my day!
That's why I asked about the road. The handling circuit isn't really representative of day to day road driving so I would want to test RWS on the road. The only thing I can think is the car I had a go in was set up wrong or something. Never seen an option with so much split opinion... hate it/couldn't tell the difference/love it!!!!!! porkgts said:
Cheib said:
Interesting observations! The only thing I would say is that for normal road use you'd struggle to take a tight corner as aggressively as you take that left hander (it's probably the tightest on the track apart from the one after the dip on the other circuit?). It must be the "analogue nerd" in me but personally I'd get more satisfaction of nailing that corner without something like RWS helping! A bit like with the double apex corner before the first time I got the line right so that you make it the single apex corner was probably the highlight of my day!
That's why I asked about the road. The handling circuit isn't really representative of day to day road driving so I would want to test RWS on the road. The only thing I can think is the car I had a go in was set up wrong or something. Never seen an option with so much split opinion... hate it/couldn't tell the difference/love it!!!!!! My OPC sales guy said that people that tend to track their cars don't go for RWS which if you think this is tech that has come from the GT3 RS is a bit odd!
porkgts said:
You can't turn PDCC on and off as far as I am aware? You were probably switching the dampers but PDCC is on all the time unless I'm mistaken.
Thought you would go for PDK, glad to hear you were impressed with RWS. Did you try it on the road aswell?
The 991.2s PDK,Rws and Pdcc had a Pdcc switch and my senior instructor said it is is disabled when you have no light on it after i specifically asked him.Before yesterday i understood the Pdcc as you did and there is always the remote possibility my instructor was wrong although i doubt it.Thought you would go for PDK, glad to hear you were impressed with RWS. Did you try it on the road aswell?
I never drove it on the main road as my instuctor voiced concern that my aggressive driving style could bring PEC Silverstone into disrepute.....
Edited by Taffy66 on Friday 3rd March 10:17
Porsche911R said:
The issue I see here is cars are easier to drive and need less skill, PDK, RWS, PTV etc is all dull to me.
I agree with the above post by " Cheib "
I have learned a craft and I get a buzz from driving well and fast to quite a good standard.
Now ave Joe can pilot a car just as fast as I can due to all these driver aids.
The ave driver loves all this new tech because it make them feel safe and faster than they could go before.
I find there is nothing what so ever to do while driving a new car and while it's fun for 1/2 a day in a loaner the cars have no sole or longevity in them, one tends to just want to go faster and faster.
A to B now in the 991.2 GTS is mind blowing and a great car for people who don't really like cars , if that makes sense. you have the PDK so no changing of gear, you have a turbo so torque on hand every where, you have RWS so no trail braking needed, you have PTV so if the car runs a bit wide it tucks back in.
even that new ring record looks easy at 6.52 in the lambo vs watching the 911 Ruff faster is not better.
I can't say i agree or disagree with your comments,on the new 991.2 gts as there will be no right or wrong spec imo just different ideals from individuals.The first car i drove was as analogue a modern 991.2 can be and it was supremely capable despite being prone to understeer in extremis and required a more exact braking point on entry while the manual box imv was superb at least up to 3rd on this short low speed circuitI agree with the above post by " Cheib "
I have learned a craft and I get a buzz from driving well and fast to quite a good standard.
Now ave Joe can pilot a car just as fast as I can due to all these driver aids.
The ave driver loves all this new tech because it make them feel safe and faster than they could go before.
I find there is nothing what so ever to do while driving a new car and while it's fun for 1/2 a day in a loaner the cars have no sole or longevity in them, one tends to just want to go faster and faster.
A to B now in the 991.2 GTS is mind blowing and a great car for people who don't really like cars , if that makes sense. you have the PDK so no changing of gear, you have a turbo so torque on hand every where, you have RWS so no trail braking needed, you have PTV so if the car runs a bit wide it tucks back in.
even that new ring record looks easy at 6.52 in the lambo vs watching the 911 Ruff faster is not better.
The Rws basically makes the car more nimble at low speed corners and more neutral at high speed corners where the car would four wheel drift rather than understeer when provoked,at least in my hands anyway.The more i drove the Rws the more i enjoyed it and it felt natural and confidence inspiring.
Whatever, i dislike understeer and the basic car was brilliant anyway and this 991.2 Gts will be an epic car in whichever configuration a buyer will choose and this 991.2S Pdk Rws was the best 911 i've ever driven.
This PDCC is getting even more confusing!
My understanding is the same as porkgts - it is always on just in the same way PASM is always on. If you notice the PASM button has PDCC on it and all the button does is switch the sport (firmer) suspension on, when it's off its in normal mode but still working.
I initially thought PDCC worked on the ARB's, but reading up it doesn't. It works on the shock absorbers by pumping up the ones carrying the cars load to prevent roll, this also happens in a straight line on uneven bumps keeping the car more level than it would otherwise be.
That is what I felt on my test drive. The RWS I could feel more at low speed than high.
Can anyone confirm my understanding is correct?
My understanding is the same as porkgts - it is always on just in the same way PASM is always on. If you notice the PASM button has PDCC on it and all the button does is switch the sport (firmer) suspension on, when it's off its in normal mode but still working.
I initially thought PDCC worked on the ARB's, but reading up it doesn't. It works on the shock absorbers by pumping up the ones carrying the cars load to prevent roll, this also happens in a straight line on uneven bumps keeping the car more level than it would otherwise be.
That is what I felt on my test drive. The RWS I could feel more at low speed than high.
Can anyone confirm my understanding is correct?
Gorsh said:
This PDCC is getting even more confusing!
My understanding is the same as porkgts - it is always on just in the same way PASM is always on. If you notice the PASM button has PDCC on it and all the button does is switch the sport (firmer) suspension on, when it's off its in normal mode but still working.
I initially thought PDCC worked on the ARB's, but reading up it doesn't. It works on the shock absorbers by pumping up the ones carrying the cars load to prevent roll, this also happens in a straight line on uneven bumps keeping the car more level than it would otherwise be.
That is what I felt on my test drive. The RWS I could feel more at low speed than high.
Can anyone confirm my understanding is correct?
That's my understanding. On earlier 991s the PDCC cars didn't have a button with PDCC marked on it. They just had the damper buttons to put the dampers into sport. Then they changed and had a PDCC button but this just did the same as the damper button in non PDCC cars, i.e. dampers normal (unlit) or sport (lit). Don't think anythings changed with 991.2 and I think PDCC works all the time, you can't switch it off.My understanding is the same as porkgts - it is always on just in the same way PASM is always on. If you notice the PASM button has PDCC on it and all the button does is switch the sport (firmer) suspension on, when it's off its in normal mode but still working.
I initially thought PDCC worked on the ARB's, but reading up it doesn't. It works on the shock absorbers by pumping up the ones carrying the cars load to prevent roll, this also happens in a straight line on uneven bumps keeping the car more level than it would otherwise be.
That is what I felt on my test drive. The RWS I could feel more at low speed than high.
Can anyone confirm my understanding is correct?
Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread, it's been very informative.
I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
Cipo said:
Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread, it's been very informative.
I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
What colour have you gone for? I'm interested as I'm struggling to choose!I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
The rear of the car is out of view and I think the camera is worth having, active cruise depends how many long motorway trips you do ( even then it's not really necessary in my opinion), LED lights are supposed to be very good - and if you want PDLS+ (that is brilliant on my BGTS) that's the only way to get it.
Cipo said:
Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread, it's been very informative.
I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
is that a manual? just curious why not the 2wd, would think most of the buyers of manual cars would want the 2wdI have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
Gorsh said:
Cipo said:
Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread, it's been very informative.
I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
What colour have you gone for? I'm interested as I'm struggling to choose!I have changed my order from C4s to a 4 GTS coupe and I am in lockdown next week or so for a July build. Does anyone know if there is a code for inner stitching on the steering wheel that can be optioned in line with the rhodium package?
I had RWS in my C4s test drive and have to admit it was very lively even at low speed on the road. I am not going to option this as it was a bit too direct for me especially going around roundabouts at slow speed.
I am choosing Rhodium/Rhodium with Glass roof speed limit display dimming mirrors light design package heated multifunction steering wheel standard 4 way seats seat heating smoking package Bose. I just cannot decide on the reversing camera, LED lights or active cruise, any user feedback on these last three items would be appreciated. Thanks...
The rear of the car is out of view and I think the camera is worth having, active cruise depends how many long motorway trips you do ( even then it's not really necessary in my opinion), LED lights are supposed to be very good - and if you want PDLS+ (that is brilliant on my BGTS) that's the only way to get it.
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